OpenBSD firewall, with outgoing filters enabled... (7 computers behind it) Works wonders, it's just a bit of a pain to read the logs. Anyone knows a good log analyser for it?
Besides, I heard that ZoneAlarm isn't really that good as a firewall. Anyways, you typically will allow Internet Explorer to access the internet, Windows 2000 just needs to export the data over Internet Explorer and nobody will notice. (And I wouldn't notice it on my firewall either, for port 80 is open outbound, evidently).
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I knew about the religious people. I understand their point too. Actually this seems to be one of the most sensible comments I got (from a logged user, wow!)
Since all your points are valid, I really will not argue against you. Up to your question: yes, we have days where you dress up and have fun. It's called Carnival and the kids love it. Hey, at school we went disguised the last day before the Carnival holiday, and yes, I loved it. It's always earlier in the year, about four weeks before Easter (if I recall correctly, I always forget the dates because they are bound to easter and in such a way variable). Well, heck! That is the monday, before Mardi Gras! "Rosenmontag" in Germany. We even get the day off, yay! No lack in dressing up, in Germany carnival is prepared over months and there are preliminaries.
Really, the trick 'n treating nor the costumes are a problem, we have local holidays for both of those (not the same day though). Actually this is my whole thing against halloween: I fear that other customs will be lost because of it, and cultural diversity will decrease overall. Please don't misunderstand me, I have no problem with Americans having their halloween fun, I have a problem with Europeans accepting it without thinking about the eventual consequences.
The point is that it would be debatable what exactly is "illegal activity". I mean, let's say I have big MP3 collection on my machine, all legally ripped from my owned CD's (yeah, well, let's just assume that). Now, enters Microsoft who scans my harddisk (according to EULA it is legal) in order to find illegal contect and because those files are not DRM enabled WMA files they make up a list which they provide to the authorities. Is this illegal? They violate my privacy, but in the war on piracy it might be deemed legal.
Other thing: they could deinstall anything that they do not like. They don't like me running WinAmp? No problem, next patch will patch Media Player as a mandatory security patch and resets it to default including breaking WinAmp in some obscure way. Not illegal at all, according to EULA, they provided me a great service: keep my system secure.
I could even go more paranoid: the next patch will check my system for ext2 partitions and shut down because of "hacking tools found on machine". Or reduce functionality of Windows because I wanted choice.
I know this is all far-fetched, but no judge is going to understand these issues.
Oh, boy.... I really should re-read my posts, that one was indeed unwillingly hilarious!;-)
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I can complain anything I want. I don't like the invasion af American corporatism, because that is the sole reason why Halloween has bene (re)introduced here.
I am not Anti-American, I am just defending my own culture. I didn't ask Americans to stop Halloween, I just complain that Europeans and European commerces are embracing it.
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First of all: I do understand that it is all about fun. I have no problem with a little fun.
But that is in no way my point. The reason of Halloween here is *purely* commercial and it crushes our *own* culture. What you like about Europe will die when corporatism takes over hard. We have our own ways, and Halloween is just one way of brainwashing our kids into American ideals.
However I took a look at your link, and it is very dangerous to link to a google search, for I did the same . Not very conclusive is it? I really would like to know what exactly are the social restrictions. I do not feel restricted at all. I can do what I want, I know people that look like punks, ghots and other people that have specific lifestyles. I have visted the US before, and honestly, people look the same there. Same kind of suits, same kind of eccentrics.
I'd also like to know what "social barriers" there are? I don't even understand what you mean. None of my friends, not people whom I went to University with left the European Union, I know that is just anecdotial evidence.
About the employment: ehm... well, we do have an unemployment problem. But so have you, you just hide it by offering braindead jobs that are done by machines here (toll booths for example, automated here, didn't see any automated one in the US and I did drive over 5000miles) You can find easily work within Europe if you want. The country I live in for instance has a real problem because the economic situation is really good in comparision to neighbouring countries. Immigration is up-up-up, and for me as a resident its a real bad thing: housing has become near unpayable. Look here As you can see, you just cannot generalize *anything* about Europe. Probably I'm guilty of overgeneralizing the US too.
I for one will not leave the European Union, whatever happens. Especially not to the dollar-crazy US, where you are free by law but bound by commercial entities.
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Except that I highly suspect that this was no grassroot movement of the canteen employees but a management decision in order to create an "event". Otherwhise the menu wouldn't really have things like "devil's soup" on it.
Probably just the canteen management (which is subcontracted) that created a event to attract more people who want to see what all the fuss is about (menu's are published over email...so you could even get curious if you never go to the canteen)
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I understand your point. (And there is way too much US television here... but the movies are doing great!) Even if it is here to stay, that doesn't mean I can't battle for the lost souls until I fall down and have to accept reality. (I'm already doing very bad here, not one person that agrees with me!)
The problem is that we actually have holidays that are suppsed to be the equivalent in Europe. Well, at least for collecting the sweets. I just know about 2 on top of my head: Liichten (2nd february) and Three Kings (6 january).... The first is in Luxembourg and the second in Belgium (dutch part, I think). Both, is kids going around then they sing a song or two and get sweets in return. A third one would be "Sint Maarten" in The Netherlands, but I'm not that sure about it. They have much less commercial value, and hence are bound to die in favour of Halloween. Or worse: kids get to collect sweets twice a year.
Look at what happened to "Sinterklaas" or "Kleesjen" which was traditionally done here on the 6th december (5th in The Netherlands). He is being replaced more and more by Santa. Back in the day I got my presents the 6th december, now you just give sweets for that day and the presents on Christmas. I might sound a bit old by complaining about these things, but I'm really just 25. The problem is that I have been witnessing these changes. When I have kids there is always the risk they won't even know about the "real" (or local) holidays. Teaching them would serve no good, because of course they would be laughed at in school.
I will try to keep up my cultural identity but the influence of the US might destroy everything I have known as "my culture", not in my generation, but definately in the next. It's nearly sad to admit it, but resistance is futile.... I'll keep resisting.
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The eWeek article is dated "July 30, 2002". Hardly recent. I downloaded SP3 months ago, but still didn't patch any of my machines. I don't trust it, but until yet I didn't seen any abuse reported about it. I just might patch the machines this weekend. Anybody knows how to disable all eventual talkback SP3 does to Redmond?
For the moment SP3 is just eating up my diskspace diskspace.
Well, I still have SP2 on my W2K machines *because* of the EULA. The problem with the EULA is that you do not *know* if it is legal or not. Nobody ever has upheld a EULA in court, and until there is a precedent (means, a judge has decided on the legality of a EULA) the EULA is just a very gray area in juridical terms. That is why they are dangerous and should be read very very carefully.
It is enough that a company gets sued over a reasonable EULA (if there is such a thing), and a judge deems that EULA legal, in order to make all EULA's legal. That would open a whole can of worms...
I'm pretty sure EULA's are not legal in Europe, but I am not sure at all.
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Ehm, if you have been more tham 20 years in a country and adapted yourself to the local customs you are no foreigner anymore. None of these European immigrants you talk about, still think of themselves as Europeans. At most "from European descent". Heck, I'm an immigrant in the country where I live too. I have been living here for over 20 years and do not consider me of my original nationality anymore. When I went for my studies back to my country of orgin I was considered a foreigner. They didn't call me by my first name, but I was "The Luxemburger". Nice, eh? Once you leave your country, get ready to rip out your roots forever.
If you take it your way, we are all Africans (provided the theories of human origin are correct).
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Makes sense...but explain we why the servers at the canteen at work were dressed up too. That was at noon, so no, "the party after" is no valid explanation.
The day, I go to work on halloween and see my boss dressed up as a Zombie, then will be the day I will have lost my crusade. Hey, *I'm* the caffeine-drinking zombie at work;-) I want no competition...
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That is indeed very informative. I didn't know that, but guess what: most of my knowlegde about halloween comes from american series. Now, while I know that series are not a good reference on American behaviour, I suspect that most kids will get their "halloween basics" from television series too. So they just might think the throwing of rotten eggs is part of it (just, as I did). Unfortunately there will be no stefanlasiewski to teach them how Halloween really works in the US.
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You are right of course... but isn't halloween that night kids throw rotten eggs at your window (the "trick part") if you don't open of fake not to be home. That makes it hard not to participate because if you don't, you have to clean your house the next day. Fun eh?
Luckily, the trick 'n treating hasn't yet started here...nobody came at the door. How many years till they will? I don't know, it's only the last three years that halloween has been commercialised here. So give it another 3 years, and some kids will have it "embedded" in their mind, and will find it "normal". That is something I want to avoid at all costs.
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Well, I don't really know why you tell me this. I know that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. I was actually replying to an AC that claimed so many young european people leave Europe to go to the US. Now, while I didn't see any evidence of it, it still might be true. (Links are appreciated)
Anyways... Even though my handle says I'm a Troll, I really am not. I really *do* dislike the commerical pushing of a holiday just for the sake of profit. Oh, and my original post got modded Troll and Flamebait, just because I was being truthfull to my own culture. I get called a nationalist, people use WWII against me etc... Now, while my statements may not be popular around here, they certainly have a core of truth.
No hair on my head thinks of moving to the US. I was there, it's nice for a holiday...and I suspect many Americans think that about Europe too. I do respect Americans, but the way Halloween has been introduced here is really not a thing to be proud of. Heck today, at the gas-station I was served by a witch! Why? I just don't get it, it's not going to make me buy more gas or so.
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But in your eyes, dressing up as a cowboy and waving a gun at kids in order to scare them would be okay? Strange.... The only difference would be my "costume".
Besides, guns are illegal here. Very... you can't even own a pellet gun as my brother discovered in a unpleasant way.
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Do they? Really?
That's funny, I know quite some Americans who'd like to leave the US and go to Europe. Honestly, I don't know anyone who left Europe for the US.
It is not that we do not allow fun or something like that, we have our own holidays and pushing halloween will make those holidays die. That is in essence a "loss of culture" due to greedy commercialism. So you are all in favour of losing diversity in human culture? Nice, I'm not for it at all.
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You misunderstand me... I don't hate americans, I just don't like commercialism that forces a long-dead holiday (locally, in the US it is big and I respect that) through my throat. You can do whatever you want, I respect Japanese holidays, American holidays, and Pygmy holidays... but you don't need to force me to comply to any of them just under the flag of "making a buck"
And I'm not french.
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...but are there other Europeans that are sick 'n tired of this holiday being introduced (back) in Europe? It had no place here, and I will boycott any halloween party around here.
And God help the children that try to collect sweets at my door. I wish I had a shotgun.
Bad idea: since RMS refuses to speak to an audience that says "Linux" instead of "GNU/Linux" he cannot speak to neophytes. You know, if the layman heard of Linux, he heard of it as "Linux" and not "GNU/Linux".... so RMS would probably get a fit at the first class he'd have to speak to.
they'd probably swallow the RIAA propaganda about stealin from artists by downloading songs
Well, they do swallow that propaganda but don't care too much. Often they don't even have enough technical knowledge to choose CD-R's. I noticed my sister always buying CD-R-Audio to burn her MP3's/copy audio CD's and I asked her why. Well, she actually thought you could only burn audio on such CD's. How many people out there believe exactly the same thing?
Big surprise to her when I told her she was paying more for nothing, but I also told her: buying these kinds of CD's actually "pays you free of piracy" (which is true in my opinion - same as casettes). Now she still buys CD-R-Audio, but for a reason: it allows her to pirate without guilt.
This has become a bit offtopic, right? Sorry...
What does "liberal arts" mean anyway? Not a toll (please do not consider my handle), I really do understand the meaning. I this some qualification in studies? A certain type of study? (It says in the article "Politicans" for example)
To stay on topic: I always have been saying that people using computers should have a minimum knowlegde on the basic principles. I'm glad that now some schools teach those instead of "Word and Excel 101". Worst thing is that the word in my language for "computer science" is unfortunately misused in high school to denote "computer classes".
In my country I'm not proud to say I'm a computer scientist because most people relate that to "using computer".
Well probaly....since you need an authentification to access a share (well, if you define a password). As far as I remember 9x machines allow shares that do not need authentifciation, if it is one of that kind for me it's public, since I don't even need to guess a password.
Having to guess a password, even if it is an empty one, probably is considered hacking! Wow, I'm a hacker...never thought of it that way;-)
But of course IANAL....
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OpenBSD firewall, with outgoing filters enabled... (7 computers behind it) Works wonders, it's just a bit of a pain to read the logs. Anyone knows a good log analyser for it?
Besides, I heard that ZoneAlarm isn't really that good as a firewall. Anyways, you typically will allow Internet Explorer to access the internet, Windows 2000 just needs to export the data over Internet Explorer and nobody will notice. (And I wouldn't notice it on my firewall either, for port 80 is open outbound, evidently).
Actually this seems to be one of the most sensible comments I got (from a logged user, wow!)
Since all your points are valid, I really will not argue against you. Up to your question: yes, we have days where you dress up and have fun. It's called Carnival and the kids love it. Hey, at school we went disguised the last day before the Carnival holiday, and yes, I loved it. It's always earlier in the year, about four weeks before Easter (if I recall correctly, I always forget the dates because they are bound to easter and in such a way variable). Well, heck! That is the monday, before Mardi Gras! "Rosenmontag" in Germany. We even get the day off, yay!
No lack in dressing up, in Germany carnival is prepared over months and there are preliminaries.
Really, the trick 'n treating nor the costumes are a problem, we have local holidays for both of those (not the same day though). Actually this is my whole thing against halloween: I fear that other customs will be lost because of it, and cultural diversity will decrease overall.
Please don't misunderstand me, I have no problem with Americans having their halloween fun, I have a problem with Europeans accepting it without thinking about the eventual consequences.
Other thing: they could deinstall anything that they do not like. They don't like me running WinAmp? No problem, next patch will patch Media Player as a mandatory security patch and resets it to default including breaking WinAmp in some obscure way. Not illegal at all, according to EULA, they provided me a great service: keep my system secure.
I could even go more paranoid: the next patch will check my system for ext2 partitions and shut down because of "hacking tools found on machine". Or reduce functionality of Windows because I wanted choice.
I know this is all far-fetched, but no judge is going to understand these issues.
Oh, boy.... I really should re-read my posts, that one was indeed unwillingly hilarious! ;-)
I can complain anything I want. I don't like the invasion af American corporatism, because that is the sole reason why Halloween has bene (re)introduced here.
I am not Anti-American, I am just defending my own culture. I didn't ask Americans to stop Halloween, I just complain that Europeans and European commerces are embracing it.
But that is in no way my point. The reason of Halloween here is *purely* commercial and it crushes our *own* culture. What you like about Europe will die when corporatism takes over hard. We have our own ways, and Halloween is just one way of brainwashing our kids into American ideals.
However I took a look at your link, and it is very dangerous to link to a google search, for I did the same . Not very conclusive is it? I really would like to know what exactly are the social restrictions. I do not feel restricted at all. I can do what I want, I know people that look like punks, ghots and other people that have specific lifestyles. I have visted the US before, and honestly, people look the same there. Same kind of suits, same kind of eccentrics.
I'd also like to know what "social barriers" there are? I don't even understand what you mean. None of my friends, not people whom I went to University with left the European Union, I know that is just anecdotial evidence.
About the employment: ehm... well, we do have an unemployment problem. But so have you, you just hide it by offering braindead jobs that are done by machines here (toll booths for example, automated here, didn't see any automated one in the US and I did drive over 5000miles) You can find easily work within Europe if you want. The country I live in for instance has a real problem because the economic situation is really good in comparision to neighbouring countries. Immigration is up-up-up, and for me as a resident its a real bad thing: housing has become near unpayable. Look here As you can see, you just cannot generalize *anything* about Europe. Probably I'm guilty of overgeneralizing the US too.
I for one will not leave the European Union, whatever happens. Especially not to the dollar-crazy US, where you are free by law but bound by commercial entities.
Except that I highly suspect that this was no grassroot movement of the canteen employees but a management decision in order to create an "event". Otherwhise the menu wouldn't really have things like "devil's soup" on it.
Probably just the canteen management (which is subcontracted) that created a event to attract more people who want to see what all the fuss is about (menu's are published over email...so you could even get curious if you never go to the canteen)
The problem is that we actually have holidays that are suppsed to be the equivalent in Europe. Well, at least for collecting the sweets. I just know about 2 on top of my head: Liichten (2nd february) and Three Kings (6 january).... The first is in Luxembourg and the second in Belgium (dutch part, I think). Both, is kids going around then they sing a song or two and get sweets in return. A third one would be "Sint Maarten" in The Netherlands, but I'm not that sure about it. They have much less commercial value, and hence are bound to die in favour of Halloween. Or worse: kids get to collect sweets twice a year.
Look at what happened to "Sinterklaas" or "Kleesjen" which was traditionally done here on the 6th december (5th in The Netherlands). He is being replaced more and more by Santa. Back in the day I got my presents the 6th december, now you just give sweets for that day and the presents on Christmas. I might sound a bit old by complaining about these things, but I'm really just 25. The problem is that I have been witnessing these changes. When I have kids there is always the risk they won't even know about the "real" (or local) holidays. Teaching them would serve no good, because of course they would be laughed at in school.
I will try to keep up my cultural identity but the influence of the US might destroy everything I have known as "my culture", not in my generation, but definately in the next. It's nearly sad to admit it, but resistance is futile.... I'll keep resisting.
Just?
The eWeek article is dated "July 30, 2002". Hardly recent. I downloaded SP3 months ago, but still didn't patch any of my machines. I don't trust it, but until yet I didn't seen any abuse reported about it. I just might patch the machines this weekend. Anybody knows how to disable all eventual talkback SP3 does to Redmond?
For the moment SP3 is just eating up my diskspace diskspace.
I install software drunk... Just to be sure ;-)
Well, I still have SP2 on my W2K machines *because* of the EULA. The problem with the EULA is that you do not *know* if it is legal or not. Nobody ever has upheld a EULA in court, and until there is a precedent (means, a judge has decided on the legality of a EULA) the EULA is just a very gray area in juridical terms. That is why they are dangerous and should be read very very carefully.
It is enough that a company gets sued over a reasonable EULA (if there is such a thing), and a judge deems that EULA legal, in order to make all EULA's legal. That would open a whole can of worms...
I'm pretty sure EULA's are not legal in Europe, but I am not sure at all.
Ehm, if you have been more tham 20 years in a country and adapted yourself to the local customs you are no foreigner anymore. None of these European immigrants you talk about, still think of themselves as Europeans. At most "from European descent". Heck, I'm an immigrant in the country where I live too. I have been living here for over 20 years and do not consider me of my original nationality anymore. When I went for my studies back to my country of orgin I was considered a foreigner. They didn't call me by my first name, but I was "The Luxemburger". Nice, eh? Once you leave your country, get ready to rip out your roots forever.
If you take it your way, we are all Africans (provided the theories of human origin are correct).
Makes sense...but explain we why the servers at the canteen at work were dressed up too. That was at noon, so no, "the party after" is no valid explanation. ;-) I want no competition...
The day, I go to work on halloween and see my boss dressed up as a Zombie, then will be the day I will have lost my crusade. Hey, *I'm* the caffeine-drinking zombie at work
That is indeed very informative. I didn't know that, but guess what: most of my knowlegde about halloween comes from american series. Now, while I know that series are not a good reference on American behaviour, I suspect that most kids will get their "halloween basics" from television series too. So they just might think the throwing of rotten eggs is part of it (just, as I did). Unfortunately there will be no stefanlasiewski to teach them how Halloween really works in the US.
Luckily, the trick 'n treating hasn't yet started here...nobody came at the door. How many years till they will? I don't know, it's only the last three years that halloween has been commercialised here. So give it another 3 years, and some kids will have it "embedded" in their mind, and will find it "normal". That is something I want to avoid at all costs.
Well, I don't really know why you tell me this. I know that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. I was actually replying to an AC that claimed so many young european people leave Europe to go to the US. Now, while I didn't see any evidence of it, it still might be true. (Links are appreciated)
Anyways... Even though my handle says I'm a Troll, I really am not. I really *do* dislike the commerical pushing of a holiday just for the sake of profit. Oh, and my original post got modded Troll and Flamebait, just because I was being truthfull to my own culture. I get called a nationalist, people use WWII against me etc... Now, while my statements may not be popular around here, they certainly have a core of truth.
No hair on my head thinks of moving to the US. I was there, it's nice for a holiday...and I suspect many Americans think that about Europe too. I do respect Americans, but the way Halloween has been introduced here is really not a thing to be proud of. Heck today, at the gas-station I was served by a witch! Why? I just don't get it, it's not going to make me buy more gas or so.
But in your eyes, dressing up as a cowboy and waving a gun at kids in order to scare them would be okay? Strange.... The only difference would be my "costume".
Besides, guns are illegal here. Very... you can't even own a pellet gun as my brother discovered in a unpleasant way.
Do they? Really?
That's funny, I know quite some Americans who'd like to leave the US and go to Europe. Honestly, I don't know anyone who left Europe for the US.
It is not that we do not allow fun or something like that, we have our own holidays and pushing halloween will make those holidays die. That is in essence a "loss of culture" due to greedy commercialism. So you are all in favour of losing diversity in human culture? Nice, I'm not for it at all.
You misunderstand me... I don't hate americans, I just don't like commercialism that forces a long-dead holiday (locally, in the US it is big and I respect that) through my throat. You can do whatever you want, I respect Japanese holidays, American holidays, and Pygmy holidays... but you don't need to force me to comply to any of them just under the flag of "making a buck"
And I'm not french.
...but are there other Europeans that are sick 'n tired of this holiday being introduced (back) in Europe? It had no place here, and I will boycott any halloween party around here.
And God help the children that try to collect sweets at my door. I wish I had a shotgun.
Never had a problem on my Sony CD-Player (about 3 years old), but good to know anyway.
Bad idea: since RMS refuses to speak to an audience that says "Linux" instead of "GNU/Linux" he cannot speak to neophytes. You know, if the layman heard of Linux, he heard of it as "Linux" and not "GNU/Linux".... so RMS would probably get a fit at the first class he'd have to speak to.
Well, they do swallow that propaganda but don't care too much. Often they don't even have enough technical knowledge to choose CD-R's. I noticed my sister always buying CD-R-Audio to burn her MP3's/copy audio CD's and I asked her why. Well, she actually thought you could only burn audio on such CD's. How many people out there believe exactly the same thing?
Big surprise to her when I told her she was paying more for nothing, but I also told her: buying these kinds of CD's actually "pays you free of piracy" (which is true in my opinion - same as casettes). Now she still buys CD-R-Audio, but for a reason: it allows her to pirate without guilt.
This has become a bit offtopic, right? Sorry...
To stay on topic: I always have been saying that people using computers should have a minimum knowlegde on the basic principles. I'm glad that now some schools teach those instead of "Word and Excel 101". Worst thing is that the word in my language for "computer science" is unfortunately misused in high school to denote "computer classes".
In my country I'm not proud to say I'm a computer scientist because most people relate that to "using computer".
Well probaly....since you need an authentification to access a share (well, if you define a password). As far as I remember 9x machines allow shares that do not need authentifciation, if it is one of that kind for me it's public, since I don't even need to guess a password. ;-)
Having to guess a password, even if it is an empty one, probably is considered hacking! Wow, I'm a hacker...never thought of it that way
But of course IANAL....