"but hollering because they won't release a giant conglomeration of patches when those patches will already be available (and for the most part available earlier) seems a fairly strange thing to do"
Dude, take a pill. You act as if creating Service Packs was fucking odd or something. SP's used to be SOP for Microsoft. Now they throttle back on SP's for releases that they hope will go away. They did this with either NT or 2000 I can't remember which. I don't remember the details but I DO remember them getting heat for it. The reason they should reconsider is that most corporations are still on 2000 and slowly moving to XP. I wouldn't expect a huge migration to Vista by corporations and continuing XP support is in their best interest because it will be their bread and butter OS for the next 2 years minimum. Frankly, they can do or not do whatever they want. The more stupid crap the better.
Maybe not but many people might when Microsoft decides in 2k8 that it not only isn't releasing an SP but it's EOL'ing XP. It's perception, people. Right now a lot of folks are thinking, "Okay, so now I'll be adding a shitload of patches after I install with no foreseeable time when they will be rolled together and make my life easier."
The fact is, Microsoft is making dumb decisions. Threatening to cripple Vista and now this. Personally, I hope they do everything they have said they will do.
Maybe people will wake up and switch to SOMEthing else.
Well, while I'd agree that that is the current condition, that was not how we got here. Dell, HP, etc. were none to eager to sign exclusive agreements with Microsoft. This paved the way to the monopoly. So now it is very difficult to get more people to explore alternatives. To level the playing field, the exclusive contracts should be anulled for a monopoly. That is probably what should be done with regards to Microsoft and OEMs. Then choice has a teeny sliver of opportunity. Right now, you're asking Joe Schmoe to remove Windows (that he had no choice but pay for) and install Ubuntu, SuSe, what have you. In the final analysis Apple probably stands the best chance of at least competing with Microsoft. In a more perfect world, various Linuses, OSX, Microsoft etc. would all vai equally. Microsoft enjoys an advantage for now but maybe not forever. It's the advantage that I abhor and it's not because everyone wants it. Microsoft long ago preached to OEMs that people will want it, then it let Windows 95 become proliferated, over time everyone was too busy eating the fat to listen to reason. We pay for those years of fat living in viruses in spyware today but I digress. You point is well taken, but I think it only describes the current situation, not how we got here.
This myth that you're somehow forced to use Windows if you buy a PC is ridiculous.
True but you miss a key point. You ARE forced to BUY Windows when you buy a PC. Therein lies the monopolistic power. No other OS maker can ever be on equal footing with Microsoft because of this.
This is pointless. You're convinced of your position and aren't likely to change mine. In our minds we're both confident that we are indeed 100% correct. So be it.
Actually I do. I see no lies in anything Bush has said. Everyone goes back to the WMD question but that was based on intelligence that nearly all levels of government believed going back to Clinton. The UK STILL hold to the notion that the evidence they obtained was true. Others note the NSA. It is not lying to simply not reveal what's going on. This happens in government all the time. We all agree there is a shitload that the government has been doing for years that we just don't know about. In most cases, nor should we. I realize it's cool to smoke and bash Bush but people need to really grow up. This "absolutely nothing he says is ever right or good" mentality regarding Bush is beyond politics, it's clinical and psychotic.
Bush could advocate an end to the DMCA, banning DRM, and making OSS manditory in all government entities and people on slashdot would STILL bitch. The only debate this article should be sparking on slashdot is between the "let's do all we can to explore space" crowd and the "we should be spending this money on my favorite agenda" crowd. Shit, people, get a hobby.
"I think everyone agrees that a war with N.Korea between any nation (Japan, US, S.Korea) would be an utter nightmare. And the nightmare has only gotten worse with the progress N.Korea has made with thier nuclear arsenal."
Disagree. This what everyone said about Iraq....twice. N.Korea won't last long in a war with the U.S....period. Let all of the "uh-uhhh you don't even know!'s" follow, but it's a myth that we'd be dragged into a mire with N.Korea. Unlike the middle east, N.Korea isn't surrounded by people who are likely to pour in and start an insurgency. Besides, we don't have to go to war with N.Korea. We simply smart-bomb their silo's. Threat gone. With any luck, we will soon.
All of these comments about only the most recent elections being suspect are bullshit. This has happened time and again. The difference is, the media is more likely to pay them attention when the election is so close. Democrats have also had their share of voting irregularities. Remember the the groups of homeless people bribed to vote with cartons of cigarettes? The countless examples of dead people voting? While I won't negate the merits of the problems noted for Diebold systems, the picture being painted is that Republicans stole the election with these machines. Be objective, people, Robert Kennedy Jr. is hardly an unbiased source.
Grow up. Damn. First, my "insolent diatribe" was it? Hardly. You made an assertion completely without base. I at least offered some facts. So what makes Antartica more authoritative than Greenland? It supports your position? Since when is anyone a "Global Warming denier!?" I don't deny the planet is getting warmer at all. However, there are a myiad of possible causes and all have scientific merit. I just don't jump on the leftist bandwagon when there's core data showing that, guess what, the Earth changes! Add to that the sun is actually hotter and suddenly I don't buy your Gore-ism! If we disagree that Global Warming is all our fault then we deny it all? You want your position or no position. Sorry, you didn't make your case but calling me "immature" and trying to charactarize my comments as a "diatribe" won't elevate you in my eyes nor hopefully anyone here. You're initial post was idiotic because you came on and chided someone and offered no facts. This latest post, I'll give you, was a much better attempt. The truth is, however, you're not interested in the truth. You're interested in furthering the agenda you hold dear. This may garner you hit points with your "sky is falling" buddies, but I'm just not impressed.
Mis-spoke: I should have said "historically relatively stable." Of course, had you not been in a leftist fit of rage, you might have cut me a little slack.:)
"The drastic swings indicated by ice core samples are so far back they're from PRE-history"
Uh...no.... "Scientists who have studied the cores agree that the Earth experienced large, rapid, regional-to-global climate oscillations through most of the last 110,000 years, of a scale that agricultural- and industrial-age humans did not face.....rapid climate oscillations that dominate the record of the last 110,000 years also persisted through the previous warm period, the Eemian, which took place about 120,000-130,000 years ago."
Why so? Is it the labelling you abhor? Generally, its left-leaning pundits who lead the Global Warming charge, from a political standpoint. That's not to say that all people who believe that Global Warming is human-induced are leftists. I think someone could make a completely non-political argument about the issue from a subjective standpoint. No one appears to want to, however, nor do they appear to be. I charged the poster because he didn't challenge the parent, but wanted to appear to have done just that.
You, Sir, are an idiot. Thanks for displaying that fact for all to see. You've provided NOTHING substantive at all to backup your rebuttal....rebuttal, HA! Since you seem content to throw out "go read this" instead of actually laying out a claim, go read about the recent ice cores form Greenland. Wow, the "wacked-out, agenda-oriented" scientists there discovered that our relatively mild climate over the last few centuries is an anomaly. In fact, they found drastic changes in climate within as little as a decade. We can expect climate change not because we are bent on self-destruction but because the climate is long overdue for its more common state: chaotic! Talk about agenda's, the Left is using a natural swing (and historically mild) in climate to leverage power. THAT is agenda, Idiot. What will I be modded this time? Do I hear, Flamebait? How about Troll? How about the ever popular Off-Topic?
First, the Zune is just not going to reel me in. Second, this is great. The more stupid shit Microsoft does, the less people will buy their products. What I really hope is that they have a ton of money tied up in it too. The more the better. Microsoft needs to learn several things here:
1. They don't have to do EVERYthing.
2. The reason some people are more successful in an area that they aren't is because they actually do it better!
3. People....hate....DRM....period! Yes, Apple has DRM too. But I can RIP my CD's and the DRM doesn't apply to me.
4. Play to the customer, stupid!
Nice dime-store political degree? Yeah, the left did little more than extort money from "big tobacco" via law suits. The tobacco industry isn't killing anyone at all. I'd agree that they went out of their way to further addictions but ultimately, people smoke by choice. This idea that the Devil made me do it doesn't fly. There's no reason to launch missile attacks at the tobacco industry. OTOH, attacking Iraq was completely justified as far back as the first time Saddam broke the first U.N. resolution. 'Nuff said. Personally, we should attack the U.N. next, in my opinion, but I digress.
It's nice for RMS to quantify his position by saying "By Free I mean Freedom" but the end result is the same. Perhaps someone can post a time when Richard said, "Yeah, the price on this software is just right" and there is actually a dollar amount specified. The truth is, there's a need for paid software. Paid for software produces some good stuff. It's not the endall but it has a right to exist. It feeds a fundemental human need, to be compensated. Glory alone is not a system of compensation and never will be.
The idea that MS is somehow "understanding" about the adoption of OSS on their customer's machines is a joke. It's amazing how short-sighted people can be.
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I want to care about lawyers getting screwed but I'm too busy getting giddy over the thought of it.
"but hollering because they won't release a giant conglomeration of patches when those patches will already be available (and for the most part available earlier) seems a fairly strange thing to do"
Dude, take a pill. You act as if creating Service Packs was fucking odd or something. SP's used to be SOP for Microsoft. Now they throttle back on SP's for releases that they hope will go away. They did this with either NT or 2000 I can't remember which. I don't remember the details but I DO remember them getting heat for it. The reason they should reconsider is that most corporations are still on 2000 and slowly moving to XP. I wouldn't expect a huge migration to Vista by corporations and continuing XP support is in their best interest because it will be their bread and butter OS for the next 2 years minimum. Frankly, they can do or not do whatever they want. The more stupid crap the better.
Maybe not but many people might when Microsoft decides in 2k8 that it not only isn't releasing an SP but it's EOL'ing XP. It's perception, people. Right now a lot of folks are thinking, "Okay, so now I'll be adding a shitload of patches after I install with no foreseeable time when they will be rolled together and make my life easier."
The fact is, Microsoft is making dumb decisions. Threatening to cripple Vista and now this. Personally, I hope they do everything they have said they will do.
Maybe people will wake up and switch to SOMEthing else.
Well, while I'd agree that that is the current condition, that was not how we got here. Dell, HP, etc. were none to eager to sign exclusive agreements with Microsoft. This paved the way to the monopoly. So now it is very difficult to get more people to explore alternatives. To level the playing field, the exclusive contracts should be anulled for a monopoly. That is probably what should be done with regards to Microsoft and OEMs. Then choice has a teeny sliver of opportunity. Right now, you're asking Joe Schmoe to remove Windows (that he had no choice but pay for) and install Ubuntu, SuSe, what have you. In the final analysis Apple probably stands the best chance of at least competing with Microsoft. In a more perfect world, various Linuses, OSX, Microsoft etc. would all vai equally. Microsoft enjoys an advantage for now but maybe not forever. It's the advantage that I abhor and it's not because everyone wants it. Microsoft long ago preached to OEMs that people will want it, then it let Windows 95 become proliferated, over time everyone was too busy eating the fat to listen to reason. We pay for those years of fat living in viruses in spyware today but I digress. You point is well taken, but I think it only describes the current situation, not how we got here.
This myth that you're somehow forced to use Windows if you buy a PC is ridiculous.
True but you miss a key point. You ARE forced to BUY Windows when you buy a PC. Therein lies the monopolistic power. No other OS maker can ever be on equal footing with Microsoft because of this.
This is pointless. You're convinced of your position and aren't likely to change mine. In our minds we're both confident that we are indeed 100% correct. So be it.
Actually I do. I see no lies in anything Bush has said. Everyone goes back to the WMD question but that was based on intelligence that nearly all levels of government believed going back to Clinton. The UK STILL hold to the notion that the evidence they obtained was true. Others note the NSA. It is not lying to simply not reveal what's going on. This happens in government all the time. We all agree there is a shitload that the government has been doing for years that we just don't know about. In most cases, nor should we. I realize it's cool to smoke and bash Bush but people need to really grow up. This "absolutely nothing he says is ever right or good" mentality regarding Bush is beyond politics, it's clinical and psychotic.
Uh-huh...you're silly.
You can't let any of that deter you from doing the right thing.
Damn! And I was so certain until you're brilliant rebuttal convinced me otherwise. That AND I'm an idiot!
"To me an optimal disposal method for radio waste would packetize it in a way that would allow it to be recovered if that became economically viable."
/dev/null and be done with it!
Cool! And if it didn't become viable, being packetized we could >
I assure you, I could NOT help myself...
Bush could advocate an end to the DMCA, banning DRM, and making OSS manditory in all government entities and people on slashdot would STILL bitch. The only debate this article should be sparking on slashdot is between the "let's do all we can to explore space" crowd and the "we should be spending this money on my favorite agenda" crowd. Shit, people, get a hobby.
"I think everyone agrees that a war with N.Korea between any nation (Japan, US, S.Korea) would be an utter nightmare. And the nightmare has only gotten worse with the progress N.Korea has made with thier nuclear arsenal."
Disagree. This what everyone said about Iraq....twice. N.Korea won't last long in a war with the U.S....period. Let all of the "uh-uhhh you don't even know!'s" follow, but it's a myth that we'd be dragged into a mire with N.Korea. Unlike the middle east, N.Korea isn't surrounded by people who are likely to pour in and start an insurgency. Besides, we don't have to go to war with N.Korea. We simply smart-bomb their silo's. Threat gone. With any luck, we will soon.
All of these comments about only the most recent elections being suspect are bullshit. This has happened time and again. The difference is, the media is more likely to pay them attention when the election is so close. Democrats have also had their share of voting irregularities. Remember the the groups of homeless people bribed to vote with cartons of cigarettes? The countless examples of dead people voting? While I won't negate the merits of the problems noted for Diebold systems, the picture being painted is that Republicans stole the election with these machines. Be objective, people, Robert Kennedy Jr. is hardly an unbiased source.
Grow up. Damn. First, my "insolent diatribe" was it? Hardly. You made an assertion completely without base. I at least offered some facts. So what makes Antartica more authoritative than Greenland? It supports your position? Since when is anyone a "Global Warming denier!?" I don't deny the planet is getting warmer at all. However, there are a myiad of possible causes and all have scientific merit. I just don't jump on the leftist bandwagon when there's core data showing that, guess what, the Earth changes! Add to that the sun is actually hotter and suddenly I don't buy your Gore-ism! If we disagree that Global Warming is all our fault then we deny it all? You want your position or no position. Sorry, you didn't make your case but calling me "immature" and trying to charactarize my comments as a "diatribe" won't elevate you in my eyes nor hopefully anyone here. You're initial post was idiotic because you came on and chided someone and offered no facts. This latest post, I'll give you, was a much better attempt. The truth is, however, you're not interested in the truth. You're interested in furthering the agenda you hold dear. This may garner you hit points with your "sky is falling" buddies, but I'm just not impressed.
Oops! My source: here!
Mis-spoke: I should have said "historically relatively stable." :)
Of course, had you not been in a leftist fit of rage, you might have cut me a little slack.
"The drastic swings indicated by ice core samples are so far back they're from PRE-history"
Uh...no....
"Scientists who have studied the cores agree that the Earth experienced large, rapid, regional-to-global climate oscillations through most of the last 110,000 years, of a scale that agricultural- and industrial-age humans did not face.....rapid climate oscillations that dominate the record of the last 110,000 years also persisted through the previous warm period, the Eemian, which took place about 120,000-130,000 years ago."
Why so? Is it the labelling you abhor? Generally, its left-leaning pundits who lead the Global Warming charge, from a political standpoint. That's not to say that all people who believe that Global Warming is human-induced are leftists. I think someone could make a completely non-political argument about the issue from a subjective standpoint. No one appears to want to, however, nor do they appear to be.
I charged the poster because he didn't challenge the parent, but wanted to appear to have done just that.
You, Sir, are an idiot. Thanks for displaying that fact for all to see. You've provided NOTHING substantive at all to backup your rebuttal....rebuttal, HA! Since you seem content to throw out "go read this" instead of actually laying out a claim, go read about the recent ice cores form Greenland. Wow, the "wacked-out, agenda-oriented" scientists there discovered that our relatively mild climate over the last few centuries is an anomaly. In fact, they found drastic changes in climate within as little as a decade. We can expect climate change not because we are bent on self-destruction but because the climate is long overdue for its more common state: chaotic!
Talk about agenda's, the Left is using a natural swing (and historically mild) in climate to leverage power. THAT is agenda, Idiot.
What will I be modded this time? Do I hear, Flamebait? How about Troll? How about the ever popular Off-Topic?
First, the Zune is just not going to reel me in. Second, this is great. The more stupid shit Microsoft does, the less people will buy their products. What I really hope is that they have a ton of money tied up in it too. The more the better. Microsoft needs to learn several things here:
1. They don't have to do EVERYthing.
2. The reason some people are more successful in an area that they aren't is because they actually do it better!
3. People....hate....DRM....period! Yes, Apple has DRM too. But I can RIP my CD's and the DRM doesn't apply to me.
4. Play to the customer, stupid!
Nice dime-store political degree? Yeah, the left did little more than extort money from "big tobacco" via law suits. The tobacco industry isn't killing anyone at all. I'd agree that they went out of their way to further addictions but ultimately, people smoke by choice. This idea that the Devil made me do it doesn't fly. There's no reason to launch missile attacks at the tobacco industry. OTOH, attacking Iraq was completely justified as far back as the first time Saddam broke the first U.N. resolution. 'Nuff said. Personally, we should attack the U.N. next, in my opinion, but I digress.
It's nice for RMS to quantify his position by saying "By Free I mean Freedom" but the end result is the same. Perhaps someone can post a time when Richard said, "Yeah, the price on this software is just right" and there is actually a dollar amount specified. The truth is, there's a need for paid software. Paid for software produces some good stuff. It's not the endall but it has a right to exist. It feeds a fundemental human need, to be compensated. Glory alone is not a system of compensation and never will be.
One word to AOL execs: SELL! Sell this ship before someone realizes it has a gaping hole in it.
The idea that MS is somehow "understanding" about the adoption of OSS on their customer's machines is a joke. It's amazing how short-sighted people can be.
This should be filed under: "Shit That Was Bound To Happen." Wow...what...a...surprise....