You guys don't have a sense of humor. This fellow is parodying the type of users that we can expect will use this distro. These are the users we are going to be stealing from MS, god help us!
I remember trying to do some experimental and trivial GUI thing with Java back in 97 and having traumatic flash-backs to Motif and X! ICK!
I suggest you try java again today. Pick up 1.3. That is the version I use. I swear the gui is just about as fast as VB. This is with a celeron 300 overclocked to 450 with 128 megs of ram.
I really think just about ANY app can be written with java today and speed is not an issue. Three java apps I've checked out recently are close to anything available in windows. They are: IceMail - Email client JEdit - Programmer's editor netbeans - Java IDE
BTW, netbeans is just unbelieveable. I still can't believe this is a java application. So my suggestions to everybody here who (like me) hadn't tried java in a while and still think performance sucks, I advise them to download 1.3beta and give it another try.
I think the libraries are what make this thing so powerful. I really has come a LONG LONG way in just three short years. I can remember trying java 1.02 when it came out in '96 and thinking, "Man, this is overhyped! What the hell am I going to do with this?".
I hate to see this guy go to all the trouble of making server os changes (to linux) when it isn't really necessary. He doesn't need linux or perl scripts or MySql. All of this just adds unneccessary complexity to the situation. And to solve this problem first we should look at his situation carefully: 1) He's got an NT server 2) He's got an Access MDB file about 14 MEGS His problem: 1) reliability problems Analysis of problem: 1) This is probably pushing Access too much. He needs a real database server. Access is fine for small databases with no more than one user accessing at a time. This is well known. 2) He needs a reliable inexpensive database server. 3) The OS he is using (NT) may not be his (or my) OS of choice, but the facts are it is more than reliable for what he is trying to do and it is already there. 4) MS SQL SERVER 6.5 or 7.0 (I would prefer 7.0) is a decent database and would probably work extremely well in this situation. ACCESS also supports upsizing to sql server directly in the Access App. Solution to Problem: A) create a ODBC SQL SERVER DSN B) upsize all the tables in the access database to Sql Server using the DSN created from 1). Access will replace the old tables with copies linked to the sql server. C) then compact and repair the database and enjoy! Isn't this easier than creating a bunch of interface scripts using DBI with PostGreSQL??? The answer is: Yes, it's as simple as A-B-C. So don't go overengineering your problems when it is not necessary as it is not in this case! ps, I reposted this because my previous message was unreadable.
I hate to see this guy go to all the trouble of making server os changes (to linux) when it isn't really necessary. He doesn't need linux or perl scripts or MySql. All of this just adds unneccessary complexity to the situation. And to solve this problem first we should look at his situation carefully: 1) He's got an NT server 2) He's got an Access MDB file about 14 MEGS His problem: 1) reliability problems Analysis of problem: 1) This is probably pushing Access too much. He needs a real database server. Access is fine for small databases with no more than one user accessing at a time. This is well known. 2) He needs a reliable inexpensive database server. 3) The OS he is using (NT) may not be his (or my) OS of choice, but the facts are it is more than reliable for what he is trying to do and it is already there. 4) MS SQL SERVER 6.5 or 7.0 (I would prefer 7.0) is a decent database and would probably work extremely well in this situation. ACCESS also supports upsizing to sql server directly in the Access App. Solution to Problem: A) create a ODBC SQL SERVER DSN B) upsize all the tables in the access database to Sql Server using the DSN created from 1). Access will replace the old tables with copies linked to the sql server. C) then compact and repair the database and enjoy! Isn't this easier than creating a bunch of interface scripts using DBI with PostGreSQL??? The answer is: Yes, it's as simple as A-B-C. So don't go overengineering your problems when it is not necessary as it is not in this case!
Yes, farscape reminds a great deal of the original Star Trek: over the top characters, interesting storylines and most importantly a sense of fun and freedom. If you haven't checked out farscape on SciFi then you definitely should. Much better creature effects than Star Trek I must say as well!
This isn't flame bait. This is this guy's opinion. It does seem like a way to take advantage of programmers and get some free marketing attention for loki.
You can never say that passion about something is a terrible thing. People are passionate about Linux and want it to succeed because they believe it such a great product. But perhaps what makes linux so great is not that it is a product but more of a philosophy... Besides what the hell else would we read here on slashdot if not for the eternal nt/linux wars huh? It just wouldn't be the same without it.
linux domain names for sale on ebay: LINUXEXTREME.COM & (.NET) & (.ORG) (goto ebay auction) ps. I really hope it goes to a slashdot user.
It doesn't matter if you are salaried or paid by the hour. There is a legal test which determines if may receive overtime. This legal test is complex and it usually takes an attorney to determine whether you apply or not. And as all legal tests it is certainly arguable in each individual case. My understanding is that titles don't matter; they consider only that actually work you do so even if your employer calls you 'VP of Technology', if you don't manage anyone and just do daily mindless system administration you are due for some overtime.
Are there any performance comparisons out there between NT JITs and Linux JITs? I keep hearing that NT kicks Linux in the pants in this dept and would like to see some proof.
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You guys don't have a sense of humor.
This fellow is parodying the type of users that we can expect will use this distro.
These are the users we are going to be stealing from MS, god help us!
I remember trying to do some experimental and trivial GUI thing with Java back in 97 and having traumatic flash-backs to Motif and X! ICK!
I suggest you try java again today. Pick up 1.3. That is the version I use. I swear the gui is just about as fast as VB. This is with a celeron 300 overclocked to 450 with 128 megs of ram.
I really think just about ANY app can be written with java today and speed is not an issue. Three java apps I've checked out recently are close to anything available in windows. They are:
IceMail - Email client
JEdit - Programmer's editor
netbeans - Java IDE
BTW, netbeans is just unbelieveable. I still can't believe this is a java application. So my suggestions to everybody here who (like me) hadn't tried java in a while and still think performance sucks, I advise them to download 1.3beta and give it another try.
I think the libraries are what make this thing so powerful. I really has come a LONG LONG way in just three short years. I can remember trying java 1.02 when it came out in '96 and thinking, "Man, this is overhyped! What the hell am I going to do with this?".
This, my friends, is no longer the case!!
I hate to see this guy go to all the trouble of making server os changes (to linux) when it isn't really necessary. He doesn't need linux or perl scripts or MySql. All of this just adds unneccessary complexity to the situation. And to solve this problem first we should look at his situation carefully: 1) He's got an NT server 2) He's got an Access MDB file about 14 MEGS His problem: 1) reliability problems Analysis of problem: 1) This is probably pushing Access too much. He needs a real database server. Access is fine for small databases with no more than one user accessing at a time. This is well known. 2) He needs a reliable inexpensive database server. 3) The OS he is using (NT) may not be his (or my) OS of choice, but the facts are it is more than reliable for what he is trying to do and it is already there. 4) MS SQL SERVER 6.5 or 7.0 (I would prefer 7.0) is a decent database and would probably work extremely well in this situation. ACCESS also supports upsizing to sql server directly in the Access App. Solution to Problem: A) create a ODBC SQL SERVER DSN B) upsize all the tables in the access database to Sql Server using the DSN created from 1). Access will replace the old tables with copies linked to the sql server. C) then compact and repair the database and enjoy! Isn't this easier than creating a bunch of interface scripts using DBI with PostGreSQL??? The answer is: Yes, it's as simple as A-B-C. So don't go overengineering your problems when it is not necessary as it is not in this case! ps, I reposted this because my previous message was unreadable.
I hate to see this guy go to all the trouble of making server os changes (to linux) when it isn't really necessary. He doesn't need linux or perl scripts or MySql. All of this just adds unneccessary complexity to the situation. And to solve this problem first we should look at his situation carefully: 1) He's got an NT server 2) He's got an Access MDB file about 14 MEGS His problem: 1) reliability problems Analysis of problem: 1) This is probably pushing Access too much. He needs a real database server. Access is fine for small databases with no more than one user accessing at a time. This is well known. 2) He needs a reliable inexpensive database server. 3) The OS he is using (NT) may not be his (or my) OS of choice, but the facts are it is more than reliable for what he is trying to do and it is already there. 4) MS SQL SERVER 6.5 or 7.0 (I would prefer 7.0) is a decent database and would probably work extremely well in this situation. ACCESS also supports upsizing to sql server directly in the Access App. Solution to Problem: A) create a ODBC SQL SERVER DSN B) upsize all the tables in the access database to Sql Server using the DSN created from 1). Access will replace the old tables with copies linked to the sql server. C) then compact and repair the database and enjoy! Isn't this easier than creating a bunch of interface scripts using DBI with PostGreSQL??? The answer is: Yes, it's as simple as A-B-C. So don't go overengineering your problems when it is not necessary as it is not in this case!
Yes, farscape reminds a great deal of the original Star Trek: over the top characters, interesting storylines and most importantly a sense of fun and freedom. If you haven't checked out farscape on SciFi then you definitely should. Much better creature effects than Star Trek I must say as well!
Yeah, except for the 29 losers that get, what, a free t-shirt? Is that minimum wage?
This isn't flame bait. This is this guy's opinion. It does seem like a way to take advantage of programmers and get some free marketing attention for loki.
You can never say that passion about something is a terrible thing. People are passionate about Linux and want it to succeed because they believe it such a great product. But perhaps what makes linux so great is not that it is a product but more of a philosophy... Besides what the hell else would we read here on slashdot if not for the eternal nt/linux wars huh? It just wouldn't be the same without it.
linux domain names for sale on ebay:
LINUXEXTREME.COM & (.NET) & (.ORG)
(goto ebay auction)
ps. I really hope it goes to a slashdot user.
It doesn't matter if you are salaried or paid by the hour. There is a legal test which determines if may receive overtime. This legal test is complex and it usually takes an attorney to determine whether you apply or not. And as all legal tests it is certainly arguable in each individual case. My understanding is that titles don't matter; they consider only that actually work you do so even if your employer calls you 'VP of Technology', if you don't manage anyone and just do daily mindless system administration you are due for some overtime.
Are there any performance comparisons out there between NT JITs and Linux JITs? I keep hearing that NT kicks Linux in the pants in this dept and would like to see some proof.