Texas should ignore its laws to make them "feel good" ? What if it made them feel good to have guys in white pointy hats standing outside the doors "observing" ?
I think the Feds could probably pass a law, amendment, or sign a treaty and not run afoul of the existing constitution, however as far as I can tell none of that has happened, so States cannot break their laws to satisfy some arbitrary agreement with other countries.
Texans aren't interested in breaking the law to satisfy political correctness. We have these laws set in place for good reason (think white pointy hats). If the U.S. government wants international monitors at all state polls they need to pass a federal law, amendment, or ratify a treaty.
Anyone see where you check democrat or republican? OP is so high they think they are in a different state than where they are, or lying to make Texas look bad.
Any party can send observers to polling places in Texas if they follow the rules. The law just won't let anyone hang around a polling place without being a registered observer. Since most polling places are at schools, I'm happy about that. I don't want a bunch of people getting in fights and stuff outside my kids school any more than "I" want to get picked on at a polling place.
The problem is the U.S. government that agreed to that constitutionally has little to do with how voting is done on the ground level unless they pass a law that does not conflict with the constitution,the 15th, 19th, 26th, or any other amendment. If they wanted to constitutionally enable the states to follow the agreement then it should have been made a treaty, then it would have become the law of the land.
Children are not allowed inside a polling booth to my understanding. When I took my baby in with me and voted last time, a sweet little old lady that was one of the election observers held her for me. They are allowed within 100 feet because they are not attempting to participate in the voting process. Just FYI many voting places are cafeterias of schools, so there are lots of people all over the place that don't have anything to do with the election, but they are allowed there specifically because they aren't trying to do anything with the election.
In Texas you can be an observer if you have an interest in something that is on the ballot such as a voter initiative, or if you are one of the parties represented on the ballot. D, R, or other.
Took me a bit to find, but OSCE is not a formal treaty, therefore it is not U.S. law, and cannot legally be held above any law in any State. OSCE is a political commitment. AKA, it's pretty much just some trash some folks signed to make them look good.
Or maybe we follow our laws and don't just ignore them where they are not politically correct? And its not that we don't need anything, we just don't give a shit what non state inhabitants think.
Besides which state exactly has never had any voter abuse? Thugs standing outside polls with bats in the north isn't voter abuse? Unions forcing people to vote their way upon threat of physical violence isn't abuse? I have voted in the ghetto in and in the nicenparts of town and I never saw any difference in how anyone is treated.
If they want to be state voting officials then they can petition to have the law changed, or get a federal law that would preempt state law.
Your so full of shit. It is just illegal to fuck with people inside a polling place. A good sign your elections are fucked is if you have tanks on the streets the next morning, it is illegal to publicize exit polls, etc.
they are welcome to question people in the parking lot but we don't want anyone messing with us in the polls.
This isn't chicago. Taken your bullies with clubs or clipboards at least to the parking lot. Our constitution in Texas keeps us free from harassment while voting and we will be keeping it like that.
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Texas should ignore its laws to make them "feel good" ? What if it made them feel good to have guys in white pointy hats standing outside the doors "observing" ?
I think the Feds could probably pass a law, amendment, or sign a treaty and not run afoul of the existing constitution, however as far as I can tell none of that has happened, so States cannot break their laws to satisfy some arbitrary agreement with other countries.
Texans aren't interested in breaking the law to satisfy political correctness. We have these laws set in place for good reason (think white pointy hats). If the U.S. government wants international monitors at all state polls they need to pass a federal law, amendment, or ratify a treaty.
FYI here is the registration.
https://webservices.sos.state.tx.us/vrapp/index.asp
Anyone see where you check democrat or republican? OP is so high they think they are in a different state than where they are, or lying to make Texas look bad.
I'm personally ok with not having U.S. observers mess with anyone else in their countries. It's their country, let them take care of themselves.
NOT A TREATY. Geez, who came up with this thing being a treaty, because everyone on Slashdot is claiming it is now.
Any party can send observers to polling places in Texas if they follow the rules. The law just won't let anyone hang around a polling place without being a registered observer. Since most polling places are at schools, I'm happy about that. I don't want a bunch of people getting in fights and stuff outside my kids school any more than "I" want to get picked on at a polling place.
The U.S. is a participant, but the states are not. You don't have to like it, but it's federalism. They should have passed a law, or signed a treaty.
The problem is the U.S. government that agreed to that constitutionally has little to do with how voting is done on the ground level unless they pass a law that does not conflict with the constitution,the 15th, 19th, 26th, or any other amendment. If they wanted to constitutionally enable the states to follow the agreement then it should have been made a treaty, then it would have become the law of the land.
I typo'd that on my cell phone. The Slashdot javascript is really weird on the dolphin browser.
Agreements are not legally binding, treaties are. Your opinion is what doesn't mean jack and shit!
OSCE is not a treaty. Why must people base arguments of false facts? OSCE is a "political commitment" which state law cannot legally be subjugated to.
Since I'm a voter, and plenty of Texans have intimidated me in the past then that's true, but not within 100 feet of a polling place :)
Children are not allowed inside a polling booth to my understanding. When I took my baby in with me and voted last time, a sweet little old lady that was one of the election observers held her for me. They are allowed within 100 feet because they are not attempting to participate in the voting process. Just FYI many voting places are cafeterias of schools, so there are lots of people all over the place that don't have anything to do with the election, but they are allowed there specifically because they aren't trying to do anything with the election.
In Texas you can be an observer if you have an interest in something that is on the ballot such as a voter initiative, or if you are one of the parties represented on the ballot. D, R, or other.
Telling citizens they won't be berated in a voting place is not intimidation. If you think it is I think you have your definitions screwy.
Took me a bit to find, but OSCE is not a formal treaty, therefore it is not U.S. law, and cannot legally be held above any law in any State. OSCE is a political commitment. AKA, it's pretty much just some trash some folks signed to make them look good.
Or maybe we follow our laws and don't just ignore them where they are not politically correct? And its not that we don't need anything, we just don't give a shit what non state inhabitants think.
Besides which state exactly has never had any voter abuse? Thugs standing outside polls with bats in the north isn't voter abuse? Unions forcing people to vote their way upon threat of physical violence isn't abuse? I have voted in the ghetto in and in the nicenparts of town and I never saw any difference in how anyone is treated.
If they want to be state voting officials then they can petition to have the law changed, or get a federal law that would preempt state law.
got any links? the only articles I could find was how bloated Indiana voter rolls were, and how republicans were suing to get them corrected.
then change the law in Texas to allow outside non official observers instead of ignoring the law.
Your so full of shit. It is just illegal to fuck with people inside a polling place. A good sign your elections are fucked is if you have tanks on the streets the next morning, it is illegal to publicize exit polls, etc.
they are welcome to question people in the parking lot but we don't want anyone messing with us in the polls.
yea not like thugs standing outside a polling place holding bats.
News flash Texas isn't governed by the UN.
I'm a proud Texan but I'd personally rather see washington DC seceed.
This isn't chicago. Taken your bullies with clubs or clipboards at least to the parking lot. Our constitution in Texas keeps us free from harassment while voting and we will be keeping it like that.