That would be their problem now wouldn't it. It's not my responsibility to protect people from their own stupidity. Espesialy in a conversation that they are not a part of.
Yes, idiots don't get their votes counted if they are confused and too stupid to ask for help. Every voting location must have someone on hand to assist voters who are confused. If they were confused they should have asked for assistance.
As for their algorithm, it's their own damn fault for not reading the ballot instructions. If I go to a voting booth and put cigarete burns through the names of all the candidates except one, my vote doesn't count. The ballot clearly indicates that if you want to vote for gore, you punch the hole that the arrow NEXT TO GORE's NAME points to.
And if this was so confusing, it still doesn't explain why this is the first time in the history of using that ballot inf florida that there was a major problem.
So then even more of the blame should fall on to congress for failing to do their job properly and thouroughly.
And here's a thought to consider, if congress men were concerned about gettting a bad rep for voting against this bill, what do you think would have happened to a president that vetoed it?
So then if this ballot was so confusing, tell me, why didn't the DNC, who had the liberty to review and request changes to the ballot approve the ballot?
That was the same problem the president faced, which is one of the reasons I hate it when people blame him for the PATRIOT act. Just as all the congress men were tied, so was the president. Can you imagine what the headlines would have been?
"Bush vetos PATRIOT act" "Bush vetos bill to increase national security"
etc etc
The whole government was tied up with this thing, and it's because people (general) have no fucking clue how the intelligence community works.
So why is it that congress hasn't started a new bill to recind the act? Congress does have the power to reverse it's laws. And if Bush vetoes it, they have th power to override said veto. But there isn't a motion to do this at all. So much of what happens with the PATRIOT act I blame on congress because it really is their fault.
Most of the civilians killed by mistake were killed during fire fights. IOW the troops were already underfire.
As for the cars at the check points, there is only one I can think of where people were killed, but the intent was not to kill people. The vehicles are fired on to stop them
you never know if you have the right answer untill after the fact. Besides, do you really and truly think that a) the intelligence problems are caused by bush or b) that bush would have even seen this information, much less interpreted it?
Wait, remind be again which group of people had a bunch of voters too stupid to properly understand a ballot that had been availible for review for months and had been used in previous elections
You do realize that Congress passed the bill right? That is the hundreds of senators that each state sends to congress agreed on and passed this legislation. Bush signed it yes, but more blame falls on congress for failing to do it's job.
On top of that if it's a bad CD (meaning it can't be read by the OS) it never gets mounted. If no drive is mounted, pushing the eject button will eject the tray. Not to mention in OSX, so long as the disc is not in use, if you push the eject button it will open the tray anyways, regardless of whether there is a disc in it or not.
You may actualy be able to install panther on the biege (either wait for X-Postfacto or try it yourself) it's just that Apple wont support your questions about it.
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So answer the ACs, have you ever shot a firearm (especialy the ones they use at the roadblocks) and do you have any idea what you're talking about?
That would be their problem now wouldn't it. It's not my responsibility to protect people from their own stupidity. Espesialy in a conversation that they are not a part of.
Yes, idiots don't get their votes counted if they are confused and too stupid to ask for help. Every voting location must have someone on hand to assist voters who are confused. If they were confused they should have asked for assistance.
As for their algorithm, it's their own damn fault for not reading the ballot instructions. If I go to a voting booth and put cigarete burns through the names of all the candidates except one, my vote doesn't count. The ballot clearly indicates that if you want to vote for gore, you punch the hole that the arrow NEXT TO GORE's NAME points to.
And if this was so confusing, it still doesn't explain why this is the first time in the history of using that ballot inf florida that there was a major problem.
Right, Bush could have vetoed the bill. Just like all those congressmen could have voted no.
"But they didn't have enough time to read it all"
Bullshit, every bill is read in entirety before it's voted on. And even if it wasn't, it was their duty to vote no.
"But they would have been labled unpatriotic and would have recieved bad press"
And the president wouldn't have?
I blame congress because congress has almost all the power when it comes to striking down a bill.
So then even more of the blame should fall on to congress for failing to do their job properly and thouroughly.
And here's a thought to consider, if congress men were concerned about gettting a bad rep for voting against this bill, what do you think would have happened to a president that vetoed it?
an excellent page on the law making process in the US
I don't know who came up with this one.
So then if this ballot was so confusing, tell me, why didn't the DNC, who had the liberty to review and request changes to the ballot approve the ballot?
Might I suggest you take a look at the ballot
This was not a confusing ballot, the voters were idiots.
That was the same problem the president faced, which is one of the reasons I hate it when people blame him for the PATRIOT act. Just as all the congress men were tied, so was the president. Can you imagine what the headlines would have been?
"Bush vetos PATRIOT act"
"Bush vetos bill to increase national security"
etc etc
The whole government was tied up with this thing, and it's because people (general) have no fucking clue how the intelligence community works.
Try actualy reading the discussion instead of going to the bottom of the thread and hitting reply
So why is it that congress hasn't started a new bill to recind the act? Congress does have the power to reverse it's laws. And if Bush vetoes it, they have th power to override said veto. But there isn't a motion to do this at all. So much of what happens with the PATRIOT act I blame on congress because it really is their fault.
Most of the civilians killed by mistake were killed during fire fights. IOW the troops were already underfire.
As for the cars at the check points, there is only one I can think of where people were killed, but the intent was not to kill people. The vehicles are fired on to stop them
I belong to a group we call the USAF.
Where was I on Sept 11? I was in NY. Where were you?
Note that "nessesary to the security of a free state" is not the main clause. Read the article linked.
the other way arround.
Not really. The orders given to the troops in a combat zone, unless they know there are armed hostiles is to not fire until fired upon
The problem with intelligence:
you never know if you have the right answer untill after the fact. Besides, do you really and truly think that a) the intelligence problems are caused by bush or b) that bush would have even seen this information, much less interpreted it?
A WWII veteran said to me one time as we were watching news coverage of a protest:
"Those who compare Bush to Hitler do a disservice to all those who fought and died in WWII and an even greater disservice to their cause
WTF?
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
It might do you a world of good to read this too:
The Second Amendment word for word according to an expert on the English Language
Wait, remind be again which group of people had a bunch of voters too stupid to properly understand a ballot that had been availible for review for months and had been used in previous elections
You do realize that Congress passed the bill right? That is the hundreds of senators that each state sends to congress agreed on and passed this legislation. Bush signed it yes, but more blame falls on congress for failing to do it's job.
On top of that if it's a bad CD (meaning it can't be read by the OS) it never gets mounted. If no drive is mounted, pushing the eject button will eject the tray. Not to mention in OSX, so long as the disc is not in use, if you push the eject button it will open the tray anyways, regardless of whether there is a disc in it or not.
And there's always the paperclip
And I can get OS X for $79. Actualy, to tell the truth, I can get if for $40, but I'll be reasonable here.
I so take the costs of Windows ME out (like I said to at the bottom of the post if you actualy read) and you will find it's still more expensive.
I would glady include longhorn, do we have an estimate for the price of longhorn?
What do you call all the posts bitching about how if this was microsoft people would be screaming for blood?
You may actualy be able to install panther on the biege (either wait for X-Postfacto or try it yourself) it's just that Apple wont support your questions about it.
Boy, I'm sure glad you do your research before posting:
f tw are.html
http://simplest-shop.com/Macintosh--1-229660-so
Let's see
X.1 Sept 28, 2001
X.2 Aug 23, 2002
That puts 11 months between those two releases
X.3 Oct 25, 2003
That's a nice 14 months in between those releases
By contrast:
Windows 2000 , Feb 17 2000
Windows ME released Sept 14 2000
That would be 7 months
Windows XP Oct 25 2001
That would be 13 months
And lets compare prices:
Mac OS X $130 always (full version)
Windows 2000 $320
Windows ME $110 (upgrade) or $210 (full)
XP Home $100 (upgrade) $200 (full)
XP Pro $200 (upgrade) $300 (full)
So from OS X.0 to X.3
March 2001 to Oct 2003 (32 Months)
You've spent $390
From Windows 2000 to Windows XP (19 Months)
Feb 2000 to Oct 2001
You spend at minimum $530 and at most $830
And if you factor out Windows ME, it's still more expensive.