Choice is a important indicator of a sound consumer oriented market. Indeed consumer choice is one of the great achievements of our economy. In one of the most important markets today, the consumer has very little choice: the desktop system, previously the pc. y
How many operating systems does a healthy market need? How can Microsoft contribute?
the vision and goal:
nobody has to do, all manage....
this is the great misconception, which will in the end get a couple out of business....: nobody knows, all cannot.......
those who are succesful, know what they are doing.....
a couple of examples.... amazon, google etc.
Yep, Joy got all his points right. Everything he is saying about MS technology in general and C# is absolutely correct, i would sign the paper, if not for a couple of missing pages.... Sun delivered a great technology to solve some problems - Java and all it's semi standardized frameworks... but is that the whole story? We are dealing with a problem space, which cannot be broken down to just one paradigm. Now that's Sun's blind spot, with it's Java "für alles" paradigm, which simply does'nt scale. Some things are done better with C, perl, ruby, C++, C# or cobol or whatever etc. etc. for various very valid reasons. In this area the.NET framework is certainly not at all blind... Probably Bill Joy knows this quite well, but prefers to elaborate only on the albeit important security aspects, which are'nt even in all given circumstance relevant.....How can such a great researcher, inventor and developer lend his hand in such a obvious way to his marketing department???
Miguel is outlining a road map for open source development of large projects, like Mono, Gnome and possibly others to come for the next 4 - 7 years. There's a well thought rationale a behind the outline, based not only well understood technical reasonings, but also socio-cultural thoughts and believes, which in the end gives us a coherent big picture of a possible road to the future for open source development. It boils down to the following points:
a. Microsoft has (finally!?) delivered a potential ly great technology, what the company intends to do with in terms of marketing and power game is altogether another story.
b. We can't always be defensive about Microsoft. Yes, we have to carefully watch them in terms of legal behavior, but we also can embrace them and take advantage of them... imagine a.NET framework on every possible Unix platform......
c. Yes, we want to get rid of the mono cultural on desktop....., then we'll have real choice:.NET, CORBA, JAVA BEANS, whatever... Visionary....?! I hope so. Maybe Stallman has to pass on his hat.....
Exactly, which also again account's for people, managers & users alike not being able or even willing too make decisions on their own.... their under the pressure of the "public opionion", which amounts too a very oppressive situation....But yes hopefully time's are a changing.... i have also a friend, who was a hardcore MS friend until recently when he got himself an iMac.....
My mother and her husband are heading towards 70 they started with the PC about 10 years, they are going to buy themselfs a new iMac. They surf, email do multimedia and use the computer for writting. Are'nt they mainstream ? Definitely, they are not at all interested in hacking.... they what something for their convenience and which they can have in their living room......
The point were, i think, the article is completely wrong, is the reason why the whole world using Windows. This is not because of the all so brilliant, but boring Gates and Case versus oh! so cool Jobs. The reason, I think - it's at least for one part public now - mostly for a combination of two reasons:
a. Because of illegal business practices of MS
b. Maybe not that well acknowledged, we - the users - are completly imature in the use of the technology, we are not capable of being able to choose, or even wanting to choose... we go for the simple road.... and accept what is beeing dedicated too us.
This will hopefully not be case for always, we are growing up, things are changeing even with the 70 year olds!
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How many operating systems does a healthy market need? How can Microsoft contribute?
the vision and goal: nobody has to do, all manage.... this is the great misconception, which will in the end get a couple out of business....: nobody knows, all cannot .......
those who are succesful, know what they are doing.....
a couple of examples .... amazon, google etc.
Yep, Joy got all his points right. Everything he is saying about MS technology in general and C# is absolutely correct, i would sign the paper, if not for a couple of missing pages.... .NET framework is certainly not at all blind ...
Sun delivered a great technology to solve some problems - Java and all it's semi standardized frameworks... but is that the whole story? We are dealing with a problem space, which cannot be broken down to just one paradigm. Now that's Sun's blind spot, with it's Java "für alles" paradigm, which simply does'nt scale. Some things are done better with C, perl, ruby, C++, C# or cobol or whatever etc. etc. for various very valid reasons. In this area the
Probably Bill Joy knows this quite well, but prefers to elaborate only on the albeit important security aspects, which are'nt even in all given circumstance relevant.....How can such a great researcher, inventor and developer lend his hand in such a obvious way to his marketing department???
Miguel is outlining a road map for open source development of large projects, like Mono, Gnome and possibly others to come for the next 4 - 7 years. .NET framework on every possible Unix platform ...... .NET, CORBA, JAVA BEANS, whatever ... ....?! I hope so. Maybe Stallman has to pass on his hat.....
There's a well thought rationale a behind the outline, based not only well understood technical reasonings, but also socio-cultural thoughts and believes, which in the end gives us a coherent big picture of a possible road to the future for open source development. It boils down to the following points:
a. Microsoft has (finally!?) delivered a potential ly great technology, what the company intends to do with in terms of marketing and power game is altogether another story.
b. We can't always be defensive about Microsoft. Yes, we have to carefully watch them in terms of legal behavior, but we also can embrace them and take advantage of them... imagine a
c. Yes, we want to get rid of the mono cultural on desktop....., then we'll have real choice:
Visionary
Exactly, which also again account's for people, managers & users alike not being able or even willing too make decisions on their own.... their under the pressure of the "public opionion", which amounts too a very oppressive situation....But yes hopefully time's are a changing.... i have also a friend, who was a hardcore MS friend until recently when he got himself an iMac.....
My mother and her husband are heading towards 70 they started with the PC about 10 years, they are going to buy themselfs a new iMac. They surf, email do multimedia and use the computer for writting. Are'nt they mainstream ? Definitely, they are not at all interested in hacking .... they what something for their convenience and which they can have in their living room......
The point were, i think, the article is completely wrong, is the reason why the whole world using Windows. This is not because of the all so brilliant, but boring Gates and Case versus oh! so cool Jobs. The reason, I think - it's at least for one part public now - mostly for a combination of two reasons: .... and accept what is beeing dedicated too us.
a. Because of illegal business practices of MS
b. Maybe not that well acknowledged, we - the users - are completly imature in the use of the technology, we are not capable of being able to choose, or even wanting to choose... we go for the simple road
This will hopefully not be case for always, we are growing up, things are changeing even with the 70 year olds!