Thats bull. There are still postings on the newsgroups until 5am. Also, if you wait til 5am and don't know exactly what you are doing, you are a fool to have procrastinated.
What more do you need when they give you: (1) Lecture notes with code examples in it (2) Approved resources such as the text book (3) TAs who often put in as many as 20 hours per week of office hours (4) Program info files that often walk you through the whole thing. (5) Newgroups to discuss the problems on
The truth is that every one who goes to GT takes the first CS class, like it or not. It used to be that CS majors and everyone else took the same first CS class (this is not the case anymore as of this semester). So we had whole dorms of freshman dorms all taking the same classes pretty much: calculus, CS, and english. Many have no initial skills in CS, possibly no desire to take CS, and many struggle. But the fact that whole halls (very often) calaborate is unacceptable.
People do cheat in the first two CS classes - all the time. I want them to be caught before I end up doing a group project with them in my group.
Also, getting caught for academic dishonesty isn't the end of the world. My close friend got caught for decompiling tetris so he could look at it for help in writing his own. He ended up getting an F in the class and had to do some community service hours. It did not ruin his life. He just had to take it again.
Are you aware that a very signifigant portion of the projects were javadoc? Javadocs should vary signifigantly from person to person since it is mostly descriptive.
Also the projects were multi-class assignments. It is easy to tell who may have cheated based on how they abstracted their methods and which file the methods were in. For example out last project was to write our own "nibbles"(remember the dos game?). Pretty open-ended.
I really dont think the profs are running the cheatfinder on "hello world" and the "learn how to use a loop and switch" homeworks (much easier than the projects).
Georgia Tech is a prestigeous university and by catching cheaters they are protecting the quality of my degree. Future employers should know that I can code the basics on my own - that GT graduates competent CS majors.
That is really offensive. Women at GT get so much crap. Sure some of them are bubbly sorority girls who may seem ditsy. But my (somewhat)bubbly sorority girl (CS major) roommate last semester and another girl had the highest average in her combinatorics class. I think the women here at GT often are more serious students than the men.
As a cs major myself I am really sick of guys ignoring my input, thinking I am stupid. I don't like management majors either but dont assume they are at GT just to get their high paying Mrs.
I took the 2nd cs class this fall @ GT and I can confirm that no one really thought a (reliable) cheatfinder could exist. It wasn't until a close friend of mine was charged with cheating summer semester that I realized they weren't kidding around. Of course the profs make it very clear the first day to guard your code and never let anyone else see it. I think the biggest reason that people didn't believe in the cheat finder is because accused cheaters are turned in at the end of the semester. Therefore you don't hear about classmates getting caught.
Also after one of the assignments (project 2 or 3) there was a newsgroup posting from a CoC official announcing that many people were found to be probably cheating. She offered that anyone who was guilty email her and she would give them a zero and spare them. This should have been a wake up call for everyone.
Personally I realized that the dept was militantly anticheating and that I should make very sure to stay away from anything that could be construed as cheating. Anyone who would actually cheat in CS is pretty stupid.
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Thats bull. There are still postings on the newsgroups until 5am. Also, if you wait til 5am and don't know exactly what you are doing, you are a fool to have procrastinated.
What more do you need when they give you: (1) Lecture notes with code examples in it (2) Approved resources such as the text book (3) TAs who often put in as many as 20 hours per week of office hours (4) Program info files that often walk you through the whole thing. (5) Newgroups to discuss the problems on
The truth is that every one who goes to GT takes the first CS class, like it or not. It used to be that CS majors and everyone else took the same first CS class (this is not the case anymore as of this semester). So we had whole dorms of freshman dorms all taking the same classes pretty much: calculus, CS, and english. Many have no initial skills in CS, possibly no desire to take CS, and many struggle. But the fact that whole halls (very often) calaborate is unacceptable.
People do cheat in the first two CS classes - all the time. I want them to be caught before I end up doing a group project with them in my group.
Also, getting caught for academic dishonesty isn't the end of the world. My close friend got caught for decompiling tetris so he could look at it for help in writing his own. He ended up getting an F in the class and had to do some community service hours. It did not ruin his life. He just had to take it again.
Honor policy from last semester
at least there would be someone to testify for them
Also the projects were multi-class assignments. It is easy to tell who may have cheated based on how they abstracted their methods and which file the methods were in. For example out last project was to write our own "nibbles"(remember the dos game?). Pretty open-ended.
I really dont think the profs are running the cheatfinder on "hello world" and the "learn how to use a loop and switch" homeworks (much easier than the projects).
Georgia Tech is a prestigeous university and by catching cheaters they are protecting the quality of my degree. Future employers should know that I can code the basics on my own - that GT graduates competent CS majors.
As a cs major myself I am really sick of guys ignoring my input, thinking I am stupid. I don't like management majors either but dont assume they are at GT just to get their high paying Mrs.
I took the 2nd cs class this fall @ GT and I can confirm that no one really thought a (reliable) cheatfinder could exist. It wasn't until a close friend of mine was charged with cheating summer semester that I realized they weren't kidding around. Of course the profs make it very clear the first day to guard your code and never let anyone else see it. I think the biggest reason that people didn't believe in the cheat finder is because accused cheaters are turned in at the end of the semester. Therefore you don't hear about classmates getting caught.
Also after one of the assignments (project 2 or 3) there was a newsgroup posting from a CoC official announcing that many people were found to be probably cheating. She offered that anyone who was guilty email her and she would give them a zero and spare them. This should have been a wake up call for everyone.
Personally I realized that the dept was militantly anticheating and that I should make very sure to stay away from anything that could be construed as cheating. Anyone who would actually cheat in CS is pretty stupid.