Lots of apparent confusion here as to what Trusteer is and isn't.
Trusteer is sold as a "holistic" solution. I don't have much experience with what they do in the browser, but it's also built into mobile banking apps. It's an anti-fraud measure (which isn't inherently bad, we all like to keep our money), and as such it's always used in a customer-facing way, not inside a bank. Most customers using mobile banking apps will probably never see a Trusteer EULA, as this would be covered by the bank's own legal boilerplate. And nobody ever reads these...
Of course William Morris is against it. The settlement is bad for them and bad for our society. It's bad for authors, even.
It also angers the twin gods Yun-Yammka and Yun-Harla, stops it from ever raining in Arizona again, and will make Sergey Brin immortal. If you show me the arguments in favour of your statement, I'll show you mine.
Even if every page in the book was available on Google Books (which I suspect won't be the case), the analogy with music would be like listening to music on the radio. Nothing stops you from recording every song played on your favourite radio station, then compiling your own albums or playlists. Yet very few people, if anyone, does that.
Are they really "allowing them to be read online"? You sure about that? The way the system currently works, the default for copyrighted works and works in print appears to be "No preview available", "Limited preview" or "Snippet view". Only older books (and not even all older books) and a small number of apparently self-published books seem to be available in full view.
And as for people reading books online: why wouldn't they simply read the book standing in a bookshop? It would be just as painful reading War & Peace four pages at a time before the Borders staff throw you out as scrolling through one badly scanned page after another on Google Books.
This is perfectly valid as proof of the true weakness in IE's security: its average user. Call it an infection with a stupidity vector. Many IE users will habitually click on Yes or Allow, and without making things clearer (or more difficult) for these people, the screenshot is pretty much what their installs of IE7 will look like after a few months.
Nonsense. Nifty the Google sidebar may be, but it still remains a simple facilitator between the browser and content suppliers (HTML, RSS, whatever). And, should Google build an HTML renderer of their own into the whole Google Desktop mangle, well... that's simply another flavour of browser to choose from.
:- Apartheid? [...] There are too many examples :- where diplomatic and economic pressure worked.
Apartheid survived sanctions: while under sanctions the South African apartheid government developed high-tech nuclear power and oil production programmes, and the white and (to a much lesser degree) non-white South African populace did not want for material things. Apartheid also survived external (diplomatic) pressure from both the West and East, and apartheid survived brute force attacks: internal urban warfare and terrorist/freedom fighter attacks, as well as armed conflict with Soviet-backed forces in Mozambique and Zimbabwe and Cuban-backed forces in Angola and South-West Africa/Namibia.
Sanctions, diplomatic pressure and open warfare only strengthened the resolve of the ruling minority and their supporters, and had the effect of placing a damper on the will to change.
Apartheid ended when a small group of people from within the ruling Afrikaner establishment manoeuvred their way into positions of influence and performed a bloodless and largely unacknowledged coup (remember P.W. Botha's fortuitous stroke which rocketed F.W. de Klerk into power?). The system collapsed despite pressure from the outside, and because of internal change over time.
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Lots of apparent confusion here as to what Trusteer is and isn't.
Trusteer is sold as a "holistic" solution. I don't have much experience with what they do in the browser, but it's also built into mobile banking apps. It's an anti-fraud measure (which isn't inherently bad, we all like to keep our money), and as such it's always used in a customer-facing way, not inside a bank. Most customers using mobile banking apps will probably never see a Trusteer EULA, as this would be covered by the bank's own legal boilerplate. And nobody ever reads these...
Of course William Morris is against it. The settlement is bad for them and bad for our society. It's bad for authors, even.
It also angers the twin gods Yun-Yammka and Yun-Harla, stops it from ever raining in Arizona again, and will make Sergey Brin immortal. If you show me the arguments in favour of your statement, I'll show you mine.
Even if every page in the book was available on Google Books (which I suspect won't be the case), the analogy with music would be like listening to music on the radio. Nothing stops you from recording every song played on your favourite radio station, then compiling your own albums or playlists. Yet very few people, if anyone, does that.
Are they really "allowing them to be read online"? You sure about that? The way the system currently works, the default for copyrighted works and works in print appears to be "No preview available", "Limited preview" or "Snippet view". Only older books (and not even all older books) and a small number of apparently self-published books seem to be available in full view.
And as for people reading books online: why wouldn't they simply read the book standing in a bookshop? It would be just as painful reading War & Peace four pages at a time before the Borders staff throw you out as scrolling through one badly scanned page after another on Google Books.
This is perfectly valid as proof of the true weakness in IE's security: its average user. Call it an infection with a stupidity vector. Many IE users will habitually click on Yes or Allow, and without making things clearer (or more difficult) for these people, the screenshot is pretty much what their installs of IE7 will look like after a few months.
Nonsense. Nifty the Google sidebar may be, but it still remains a simple facilitator between the browser and content suppliers (HTML, RSS, whatever). And, should Google build an HTML renderer of their own into the whole Google Desktop mangle, well... that's simply another flavour of browser to choose from.
:- Apartheid? [...] There are too many examples
:- where diplomatic and economic pressure worked.
Apartheid survived sanctions: while under sanctions the South African apartheid government developed high-tech nuclear power and oil production programmes, and the white and (to a much lesser degree) non-white South African populace did not want for material things. Apartheid also survived external (diplomatic) pressure from both the West and East, and apartheid survived brute force attacks: internal urban warfare and terrorist/freedom fighter attacks, as well as armed conflict with Soviet-backed forces in Mozambique and Zimbabwe and Cuban-backed forces in Angola and South-West Africa/Namibia.
Sanctions, diplomatic pressure and open warfare only strengthened the resolve of the ruling minority and their supporters, and had the effect of placing a damper on the will to change.
Apartheid ended when a small group of people from within the ruling Afrikaner establishment manoeuvred their way into positions of influence and performed a bloodless and largely unacknowledged coup (remember P.W. Botha's fortuitous stroke which rocketed F.W. de Klerk into power?). The system collapsed despite pressure from the outside, and because of internal change over time.