That does not mean that one group can exclude the other from the use of that money as your argument seems to make. you are using something paid for partially by me, why do you get to exclude me in that use for a public company. You even get tax breaks paid by me in many cases.
Firstly you apparently cannot read, I said MANY, not all.. You can be agnostic Christian as well...It just means you accept your faith, but are open to the possibility that you could be wrong..
I dont know why would you? If you are Christian you believe in the same things long the lines of Santa Claus and the invisible magical unicorns or the tooth fairy. All are things you cannot prove exist or not, along with the Christian God..
you asked to be able to open a business in public space, which requires a business license. If you kept it private in your home you generally do not need it.
And you apparently assume there isnt a constitutional right to not be discriminated against for being gay..The same right that gives the religious people the anti discrimination right is broad enough to apply to gays. understand that the 1st amendment only applies to the government, without the 14th there would not be the same for businesses.
Secondly since it is the religious people who are generally the hostile ones it is technically them being unwilling to work, not the job discriminating.
As opposed to the right wingers pushing bigotry into everyone face and trying to brain wash everyone into believing that is ok? Morals are a society based thing, and right now society is saying what you claim are morals are not actually the morals of the society.
No, reverse each of those phrases, conservative favors fox. Most of those businesses dont really care who their customers are, as long as they get money, other than maybe fox.
You can practice your religious beliefs without refusing service to gays, or can someone point out where the Jesus said "love everyone but the gays". And this is where your argument fails. Your religion does not hate gays, you hate gays. and by you I mean the people who are trying to claim the religious exemption.
Some believe it did have some religious aspect to it, but even if it didnt, that has no bearing on the discussion..
Second I like how you assume he is atheist and not agnostic, or even a believer.. Religion is evil, in general, faith not so much. They are completely different.
How about you want to refuse service because you dont like something that has no bearing on you, fine, but you cannot use ANY public services that would have been paid for partly by that person or groups money..
then dont think about things that have absolutely no bearing on your life. I dont wanna know that many Christians are the stupidest people on the planet, it makes me depressed realizing how many of them lack logic and fundamental thinking skills who will go on to make laws that affect me, but I still have to deal with it, and provide service to them.
It depends. Telling someone who has mistreated your staff, or been an asshole is not the type of discrimination we are talking about here. Those are controllable things.
Because at the very least his business is using tax money the gay couple created. I see no reason the gay couple should want him, but he should not be allowed to discriminate. Those are 2 very different things. Saying they should not want them has no bearing on if he should be allowed to discriminate..
you do not have to be atheist to not be religious... I am not atheist, and I am not religious.. Dont forget that there is also agnostic, which I would say most of the brilliant scientists are, because that is the open minded version of the 3. Many atheists and religious people are very close minded in general due to the nature of humans to want to be right.
Me thinks you do not understand logic. First of all because something is not proven does not make it clearly the opposite. in any case, incase you missed it, http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gay-g...
There is nothing in most religion (especially Christians) that promote the bigorty from the religion itself..
you are right they dont need extra rights, they need full access to the rights they are already supposed to have, that they dont have today. Equal protection being one of the biggest.
Except you have created a public business. You asked for a public business license, you use public facilities to make your business. Your business is no longer a private thing. You are basically saying you want to be able to use things paid for by the same people you dont want to service... Sorry but that is not how society works.
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Who said it was a dick-waving contest. The largest amount of brain washing goes on by the religious right, so you win apparently.
What else is there. There is love, hate and indifference. It is obviously not love or indifference.
That does not mean that one group can exclude the other from the use of that money as your argument seems to make. you are using something paid for partially by me, why do you get to exclude me in that use for a public company. You even get tax breaks paid by me in many cases.
I dont know why would you? If you are Christian you believe in the same things long the lines of Santa Claus and the invisible magical unicorns or the tooth fairy. All are things you cannot prove exist or not, along with the Christian God..
What is lost by allowing people to be racist in their own homes, nothing, as long as it stays there.
you asked to be able to open a business in public space, which requires a business license. If you kept it private in your home you generally do not need it.
Secondly since it is the religious people who are generally the hostile ones it is technically them being unwilling to work, not the job discriminating.
As opposed to the right wingers pushing bigotry into everyone face and trying to brain wash everyone into believing that is ok? Morals are a society based thing, and right now society is saying what you claim are morals are not actually the morals of the society.
Huh? that made no sense. No one is claiming it is wrong for someone not to be able to fall in love because of skin color.
No, reverse each of those phrases, conservative favors fox. Most of those businesses dont really care who their customers are, as long as they get money, other than maybe fox.
You can practice your religious beliefs without refusing service to gays, or can someone point out where the Jesus said "love everyone but the gays". And this is where your argument fails. Your religion does not hate gays, you hate gays. and by you I mean the people who are trying to claim the religious exemption.
So people have to be tolerant of people who are not tolerant towards them, otherwise there is a problem, so the first person to be intolerant wins...
Because the first generally does not attack the second and then go, what, was that wrong, no, tht was not wrong.
Some believe it did have some religious aspect to it, but even if it didnt, that has no bearing on the discussion.. Second I like how you assume he is atheist and not agnostic, or even a believer.. Religion is evil, in general, faith not so much. They are completely different.
Ahh, that strawman, makes it easy when you take things out of context doesnt it.
How about you want to refuse service because you dont like something that has no bearing on you, fine, but you cannot use ANY public services that would have been paid for partly by that person or groups money..
then dont think about things that have absolutely no bearing on your life. I dont wanna know that many Christians are the stupidest people on the planet, it makes me depressed realizing how many of them lack logic and fundamental thinking skills who will go on to make laws that affect me, but I still have to deal with it, and provide service to them.
It depends. Telling someone who has mistreated your staff, or been an asshole is not the type of discrimination we are talking about here. Those are controllable things.
Because at the very least his business is using tax money the gay couple created. I see no reason the gay couple should want him, but he should not be allowed to discriminate. Those are 2 very different things. Saying they should not want them has no bearing on if he should be allowed to discriminate..
Well seeing as those same people follow a religion that says dont judge and love everyone I am not seeing your point.
Some religiouns. The problem is most people follow one of the 2 religions that dont punish bad people, Christianity being the worse.
you do not have to be atheist to not be religious... I am not atheist, and I am not religious.. Dont forget that there is also agnostic, which I would say most of the brilliant scientists are, because that is the open minded version of the 3. Many atheists and religious people are very close minded in general due to the nature of humans to want to be right.
Me thinks you do not understand logic. First of all because something is not proven does not make it clearly the opposite. in any case, incase you missed it, http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gay-g...
There is nothing in most religion (especially Christians) that promote the bigorty from the religion itself..
you are right they dont need extra rights, they need full access to the rights they are already supposed to have, that they dont have today. Equal protection being one of the biggest.
Because it is private and people can do in their homes as they please. It does not seem the author is saying they can do it in their business.
Except you have created a public business. You asked for a public business license, you use public facilities to make your business. Your business is no longer a private thing. You are basically saying you want to be able to use things paid for by the same people you dont want to service... Sorry but that is not how society works.