You do realize that my only point was that the Israel=Nazi meme is cheap demagoguery?
Don't you realize that if the Israeli's didn't act like Nazi's this wouldn't be an issue?
It's their behaviour that makes people say that. It has nothing to do with whether people like the Jewish religion, culture, or whatever. It's your government that makes you look like the devil.
You're the one who keeps dragging this thing back to Hitler. It's a great tactic to avoid explaining the actions of Israel, to divert the subject where you are being attacked by some some Jew hater. That's not happening here as much as you try to pretend it is.
If you want to call me an antisemite for saying Israel kills people needlessly and displaces others with force thats fine. You can't call me a liar, but you can call me some other non-applicable term. That's comforting that you agree.
No it's just incorrect. To say someone hates something when they don't is wrong. It isn't wrong to say that Israel took what isn't theirs, forced people off their land & homes, and continues to do so.
I did not force anyone from their home and build a settlement on their land. Israel does that.
If you want to get stuck in a debate about who's worse the Nazis or the Jews, I'm not interested. There are similarities beyond what you are willing to admit to though.
Europeans have a history of displacing people violently and unfairly. Brittain allowed this to happen to Palestine, and I don't see much difference between this and the conquest of North America, Australia, etc.
It's Judaism instead of Christianity that drives these "settlers". It's basically the same religion though, which tells them they are superior to non-jews, and that God loves them more.
See, this is part of the realization again. You never did.
I did not imply the Israelis are worse than the Nazis. I said the situation is different. One group sought to expel and irradicate a perceived enemy within. The other group travelled to a foreign land and did the same to its occupants.
I'm not sure which is worse, killing someone in your family, or killing someone down the block who you hardly know. I would say they are both terrible, and neither is "better" or "worse".
Since the GP was only talking about the Jews, never actually mentioning Israelis, the parent post's claim is much more logical than your own.
You also occasionally see posts on here about "Niggers" and "Frosty Piss". There's a lot of stupid things said in an open forum. You don't blame the forum though.
More people have died as a result of the current Iraq war than in the whole Israeli/Arab conflict since 1948.
Okay, let me correct myself.
You have to assume that the current Iraq war isn't just an extension of this same stupid conflict, and that people are starting to forget what they are even fighting about anymore.
I remind you that this is the same organization that has/had/will have members such as Egypt, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and China.
How the hell is anything supposed to get resolved if there is no forum for discussion with your enemy? A forum with fairness and equality where the only thing that matters is justice would be nice though. Not this thing we have now where certain members have unfair advantages, and aren't bound to adhere to any decisions.
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Don't you realize that if the Israeli's didn't act like Nazi's this wouldn't be an issue?
It's their behaviour that makes people say that. It has nothing to do with whether people like the Jewish religion, culture, or whatever. It's your government that makes you look like the devil.
You're the one who keeps dragging this thing back to Hitler. It's a great tactic to avoid explaining the actions of Israel, to divert the subject where you are being attacked by some some Jew hater. That's not happening here as much as you try to pretend it is.
If you want to call me an antisemite for saying Israel kills people needlessly and displaces others with force thats fine. You can't call me a liar, but you can call me some other non-applicable term. That's comforting that you agree.
You compared me to Hitler. I have done nothing to put myself in the same league as Hitler. Israel does.
No it's just incorrect. To say someone hates something when they don't is wrong. It isn't wrong to say that Israel took what isn't theirs, forced people off their land & homes, and continues to do so.
Then I'd say you are incapable of a proper discussion. I have no hatred toward jews or any other group. I have hatred toward aggression and injustice.
There fixed that.
What if you say Nazis and the Jewish state have similar means to achieve their goals, and share a view that they are superior to other groups?
Here we go with the God promised us this land stuff. I find this part entertaining.
Defending itself by expanding its borders and building settlements? Come on now.
I did not force anyone from their home and build a settlement on their land. Israel does that.
If you want to get stuck in a debate about who's worse the Nazis or the Jews, I'm not interested. There are similarities beyond what you are willing to admit to though.
Well I can't speak for the others here, but I'm anti-anyone-who-abuses-power. That covers most religions and authoritative bodies.
If only a democracy would happen somewhere.
So you're saying that calling someone a jew is the same as calling someone a nigger?
Europeans have a history of displacing people violently and unfairly. Brittain allowed this to happen to Palestine, and I don't see much difference between this and the conquest of North America, Australia, etc.
It's Judaism instead of Christianity that drives these "settlers". It's basically the same religion though, which tells them they are superior to non-jews, and that God loves them more.
See, this is part of the realization again. You never did.
I did not imply the Israelis are worse than the Nazis. I said the situation is different. One group sought to expel and irradicate a perceived enemy within. The other group travelled to a foreign land and did the same to its occupants.
I'm not sure which is worse, killing someone in your family, or killing someone down the block who you hardly know. I would say they are both terrible, and neither is "better" or "worse".
I never said one was better or worse than the other. Just that they were different.
You made the judgement, not me.
You also occasionally see posts on here about "Niggers" and "Frosty Piss". There's a lot of stupid things said in an open forum. You don't blame the forum though.
There is no excuse. It's exactly the same thing. Except for the religion.
Okay, let me correct myself.
You have to assume that the current Iraq war isn't just an extension of this same stupid conflict, and that people are starting to forget what they are even fighting about anymore.
The same would be said of the US and it's population.
Yeah, maybe it should be a free for all, with lots of shouting and violence.
Is that a serious question? Or did you just not think about it before you asked it?
How the hell is anything supposed to get resolved if there is no forum for discussion with your enemy? A forum with fairness and equality where the only thing that matters is justice would be nice though. Not this thing we have now where certain members have unfair advantages, and aren't bound to adhere to any decisions.
Murdering a bunch of civilians is your solution?
Ever looked up the definition of terrorism?
I love it when people are reduced to personal insults. It means they realize they are wrong.