The Marketing of Convienience is the issue here and the internet provides it as no other medium has before. People can now sit in semi-vegetative states and do most of what they used to leave home ( or at least put an envelope in the mail box) for. As technologies (thie internet and its' evolutionar dirivitives) enable us to interact in increasingly more facile manners, albeit significantly less personal ones, most people are apt to opt for the easiest method to extracate themselves from unpleasent interludes such as 'minor' trafic violations as long as the cost does not constitute a significant burden and are therefore more likely to pay the fine FASTER (and certainly not fight the citation, vlaid or not(yes there are a whole bunch of 'erroneous' citations issued;-), even if it just means going 'downtown' or into town to do so, if given an easy way to do so. The real issue for these jurisdictions is to balance the fine structure of minor violations relative to the 'convienience factor' in the payment/litigation structure in order to maximixe the number of direct payments of fines and to minimize the court time for the judge who would much rather be on the back nine by 4:00 anyway... That is to keep the fine in the 'not too punitive range' in order to increase the likelyhood of payment without an apearence in court. A short note about Texas Having been a licensed vee-hickil operator of El Estado de Tejas Grandioso for nearly 30 years and having been issued my fair share of citations and warnings(yeah if they stopped you for no reason and you call them on it POLITELY the will usually give you a warning unless you have out of state plates) for violating the traffic laws in various jurisdictions and I assure you that the judicial districts and law enforcement agencies in this state will be the first to adapt any method (new tech old tech or no tech(cudgels et al.)) to increase the efficiency of collections( read personal income)... yeeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaahh Texas the most progressive of sociological backwaters....
I think you are incorrect. The Linux community is not a homogeneous mass of script kiddies; the young and excitable just tend to be more vocal. The issues of point and click installation and UI are being addressed (as we dicker;) by some people with a very good handle on the problem,,, KDE, GNOME, for the UI are both making great strides and X* is infinately more flexable than the WINwhatevers. Initial install, Hardware, installation and drivers, are the real cancker that gnaws - and this too seems to be a major focus by most major distributions. I believe that Linux can be a very viable home desktop especially if we address,life as an imbedded OS in a non tradional device (set tops and integrated net appliances) over high speed access media (ADSL, cable, et al.) now and not later. Still the best market for Linux right now is as a server OS where its' advantages are legion and its' short commings should be short lived.
None... Long term impact of 'bringing back' any species is virtually nill. All of the cross-continental introductions of species (in effect the same thing) have only changed the details of various local environments, species displaced, over populations , but in a few generations stability is restored. The only complaint would be is this the most pleasing to the humans residing within the same local environment...
All in all this is an interesting project, but it and others like it will have no affect on the eclological future. Huuumans(note Ferengi accent) are making a mess of the pond they live in and destroying large numbers of niche specific mutations at a rate that is rivaled only by mass extinctions caused by cataclysmic geologic events and impacts of extra-planetary objects. Life will continue to exist, what forms of life dominate, and the complexity and diversity of their forms can vary in the extreme. When we speak of 'saving the world' and 'preseving bio-diversity' what we are tryng to say is that we wish to maintain a static view of/stable condition within a dynamic system as a matter of self preservation. We wish to have our cake and eat it too. There is no need to preserve the snail darter, there are plenty of organisms that will fill that ecological niche an more will mutate/evolve to fill them. The real need is not to micro manage individual species (regardless of their esthetic appeal) but to stem the tide of extictions in general lest the neccessary relationships needed to maintain the ecosphere which suports us become unvilable and consequently so do we. The only ways to do this are to either stem the growth of human population expansion or to migrate off the planet into artificial environments where 'bio-diversty' is defined by the fauna and flora in each individuals gut.
MS wins - Think like a suit... CIO addresses server software question.. Press reports NT faster... Linux says UNFAIR ! Biased test ! Rematch ! re-test by 'objective third party' NT still faster faster = better NT best I knew that open software idea was krap... they got two trys and still... end of attention to minor tech debate... hows my portfolio today..
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The Marketing of Convienience is the issue here and the internet provides it as no other medium has before. People can now sit in semi-vegetative states and do most of what they used to leave home ( or at least put an envelope in the mail box) for. As technologies (thie internet and its' evolutionar dirivitives) enable us to interact in increasingly more facile manners, albeit significantly less personal ones, most people are apt to opt for the easiest method to extracate themselves from unpleasent interludes such as 'minor' trafic violations as long as the cost does not constitute a significant burden and are therefore more likely to pay the fine FASTER (and certainly not fight the citation, vlaid or not(yes there are a whole bunch of 'erroneous' citations issued;-), even if it just means going 'downtown' or into town to do so, if given an easy way to do so. The real issue for these jurisdictions is to balance the fine structure of minor violations relative to the 'convienience factor' in the payment/litigation structure in order to maximixe the number of direct payments of fines and to minimize the court time for the judge who would much rather be on the back nine by 4:00 anyway... That is to keep the fine in the 'not too punitive range' in order to increase the likelyhood of payment without an apearence in court. A short note about Texas Having been a licensed vee-hickil operator of El Estado de Tejas Grandioso for nearly 30 years and having been issued my fair share of citations and warnings(yeah if they stopped you for no reason and you call them on it POLITELY the will usually give you a warning unless you have out of state plates) for violating the traffic laws in various jurisdictions and I assure you that the judicial districts and law enforcement agencies in this state will be the first to adapt any method (new tech old tech or no tech(cudgels et al.)) to increase the efficiency of collections( read personal income)... yeeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaahh Texas the most progressive of sociological backwaters....
Now I know it is true.
The internet is possessed by the ghost of P.T Barnham !!!
I think you are incorrect. The Linux community is not a homogeneous mass of script kiddies; the young and excitable just tend to be more vocal. The issues of point and click installation and UI are being addressed (as we dicker;) by some people with a very good handle on the problem,,, KDE, GNOME, for the UI are both making great strides and X* is infinately more flexable than the WINwhatevers. Initial install, Hardware, installation and drivers, are the real cancker that gnaws - and this too seems to be a major focus by most major distributions. I believe that Linux can be a very viable home desktop especially if we address,life as an imbedded OS in a non tradional device (set tops and integrated net appliances) over high speed access media (ADSL, cable, et al.) now and not later. Still the best market for Linux right now is as a server OS where its' advantages are legion and its' short commings should be short lived.
None... Long term impact of 'bringing back' any species is virtually nill. All of the cross-continental introductions of species (in effect the same thing) have only changed the details of various local environments, species displaced, over populations , but in a few generations stability is restored. The only complaint would be is this the most pleasing to the humans residing within the same local environment...
All in all this is an interesting project, but it and others like it will have no affect on the eclological future. Huuumans(note Ferengi accent) are making a mess of the pond they live in and destroying large numbers of niche specific mutations at a rate that is rivaled only by mass extinctions caused by cataclysmic geologic events and impacts of extra-planetary objects.
Life will continue to exist, what forms of life dominate, and the complexity and diversity of their forms can vary in the extreme. When we speak of 'saving the world' and 'preseving bio-diversity' what we are tryng to say is that we wish to maintain a static view of/stable condition within a dynamic system as a matter of self preservation. We wish to have our cake and eat it too. There is no need to preserve the snail darter, there are plenty of organisms that will fill that ecological niche an more will mutate/evolve to fill them. The real need is not to micro manage individual species (regardless of their esthetic appeal) but to stem the tide of extictions in general lest the neccessary relationships needed to maintain the ecosphere which suports us become unvilable and consequently so do we. The only ways to do this are to either
stem the growth of human population expansion or to migrate off the planet into artificial environments where 'bio-diversty' is defined by the fauna and flora in each individuals gut.
here here...
point well made
this whole thread is a wastre of bandwidth
except for this comment....
thankyou
MS wins -
Think like a suit...
CIO addresses server software question..
Press reports NT faster...
Linux says UNFAIR ! Biased test ! Rematch !
re-test by 'objective third party'
NT still faster
faster = better
NT best I knew that open software idea was krap... they got two trys and still...
end of attention to minor tech debate...
hows my portfolio today..