I hope everyone is buying Puts (sell options) on MS, the price dropped 5% in after hours trading and will be going lower as the judgement sinks in. And for anyone who has not followed the case closely heres a link to all the relevant material on The Register showing how Judge Jackson came to his inevitable conclusion:-
Do you think it is easier for you to adopt Linux in such a high profile way in the UK as we are known for our support of the underdog and fairness so it is easier to go against established dogma / marketing hype as opposed to the US?
Throughout history humanity has being going upward, like a bellcurve extending upwards and at the same time the base extending ever outwards. The Net is important, and/. is as well, at the top end, and here is why. The Net allows people to communicate without skin colour, without nationality, without religious bias (it had to be said), we are equals for once. As for/. one of my freinds who is doing a masters degree in sociology has gained much from The Hellmouth series and various other articles on here, and so do we all, I think you might be surprised in 5 or 10 years at the effect that this forum has had on many aspects of life in general, this is a place for ideas, and discussions about our collective future. Now I agree with you about politicians, most are not like the readers and contributors on/. and I dont think that the present type of politics is designed for the people with the best approach to get elected. I see no point in going into politics, my ideas might work, but I dont come with any ideology, I dont support ideas that are there to make people feel comfortable, I ask questions rather than dispense quick, simplistic answers. Politics is slow and clumsy, those creating the technology for the future are speedy, pinpoint accurate, and can easily overwhelm politicians when they get in the way as in the defeat of the Clipper chip and all the Net censorship bills. For a taste of where we are going check out the following article about Ashoka which supports social entrepreneurs, and they have a web site too:-
Just remember, we are part of a process, we stand for the future and though most of our names will never be recalled in a century, they will remember what we built together.
Its the herd instinct in overdrive. I love the comments on/. that are expressions of peoples take on a story whether I agree with them or not, I feel very uncomfortable when people start to tell me how to think and feel about something. Perhaps we could have a new moderation added for posts that are there just to direct people how to post / moderate what do you think?
Welcome to the wonderful world of natural selection, your host this evening is Mr. Darwin, he will explain how spammers are unfit life forms which in time will be erased by equally unfit homocidal elements, that in turn will be incarcerated, therefore elliminating two social ills at once. This has been a pulic service announcement.....
We've already had a woman Prime Minister, and there are gay members of parliment, only the newspapers / TV actually care if they are gay, most of the rest of the population only care if they are any good e.g. an ex-minister was jailed not that long ago for perjury, which contrasts nicely with Clinton. Oh and one guy by the name of Micheal Portillo actually went up in his ratings after disclosing that he had homosexual experiences while at university and he is in the Conservative Party (our version of Republicans). One last thing one of the ministers of state is even blind and takes his guide (seeing eye) dog in with him.
I'm almost at the end of "The Pearly Gates Of Cyberspace - A History of Space From Dante to The Internet", a really excellent read on how our concept of space has developed though the ages, from religous soul "space" to the Net, I dont quite agree with the ending, but the history is fascinaing and well worth a read.
however, personally I do it by making the world a better place, not by some devotion to an unknown and unknowable force, I feel that just makes me weak to say I cant have an impact, thats its all some divine will. Maybe if we all got off our knees to some idol and actually did something positive that we might find the religion meme disappears, and we might make humanity that bit better. As for:-
It does mean acknowledging one's own need for the unknown, and a way to interact with it.
yes I agree there is the unknown, I see it as just randomness, but that is more difficult to live with than some mystical force that has our interests at heart, but if you need that emmotionally to get though the day then thats fine, just realise what you are doing, and what you are giving up.
Well I had the MySQL errors, now I'm on to another set:-
This server has reached its capacity for the requested url. pnm://media.cmpnet.com/technetcast/tnc_mit_dk_01 .rm?title=Donald
To think I actually read DDJ and they cant even run a simple audio / video stream, back to consulting my preist on matters programmatic I think, although if I go Protestant I can do it without the guilt.....
Yes, we need some thing more relevent, just talking about "business developers" means nothing. Some sort of objectified testing might be more appropriate, e.g. take the cream of developers in each language, and set them all a standarised set of programming tasks, the results are marked for speed of development, clean implementation, readability, portability, speed of execution etc. Then there would be at least a qualitative representation, as it stands the poll is next to useless, just a very sloppy way of garnering some PR.
Surely if TurboLinux et al have done their design correctly it should be possible to patch any kernel source with this code as the overall design is not going to radically change.
I agree, it "might" be an overreaction, it seems to me that we need some independent body to vet this product, just like they do for novel foods and drugs, as it has the potential to be very negative or very positive, why not a trial, see what the ratios of false positives and negatives is and have it published like real sceintific data?
Open Source is a licence to mutate the code into whatever you like, and like in nature, the ability to change is a GOOD THING(tm). If Linux was closed, like other *NIX versions I doubt whether it would have got this far, and when I say Linux, I just dont just mean the kernel, I mean all the GNU tools as well (personally I think the FSF and everyone involved with the GNU developments are unsung heroes of the Linux phenonmenon, thank you all). I think that Linux has been a catalyst in the mainstreaming of open source, from its roots with Richard Stallman and the FSF (please no flames on OSS vs. Free Software), as with all groups there are those who spend years in the wilderness, and then a group comes along that makes it palitable to the masses and a massive expansion phase ensues ( a social version of the big bang / inflationary universe theory ), just like the hippies in the 60s talking about environmental issues gave birth to the Green Parties around the globe and GreenPeace, which was the co-opted by the main political parties.
Well actually they are complicated, sorry to break it to you, for example people make a major mistake (e.g. showstopper) in their work on average every 20 days ( this is from university research on product engiineering ). Profiling is only a very rough guide, ever have a profiler say "He was born on the 26th January 1970, has a boyish grin and eats breakfast at McDonalds"? No, its all "Between 25 and 35 might be married, might have parental issues..". And thats a human doing the reasoning, not a computer that is a small fraction of the power we have. There is only one thing that connects all these violent people, namely they get some type of gratification from the violence, and a lot of the time it is a release, a taking of control back that they have lost or think they have lost, people who do not feel in control of their lives will at some point be destructive to themselves or others.
...I believe the greatest frustration about women for men who are used to dealing with Open Source software is that you cannot fix flaws you find in them....
Okay lets take this apart. First what is a "flaw" but a subjective evaluation. Lets try non-optimal code ( note, nature, including natural selection is inherently non optimal so no need to get upset ). Now why cant we all be open source? I am, I allow anyone to talk to me, and question me on what I think / believe, and when I come across something that seems more optimal, I change, and see if it is better for me. Most people who engage in this are "in therapy", I'm not, I've just taken it on as a way of life. It causes some interesting reactions, e.g. a date I had a couple of weeks back sat across the table and said and I quote "I can't believe you're so open, I'm amazed", if you can learn to a) articulate your thoughts and b) be open to change you can be an open source person, its not difficult, just takes practice, then you can appreciate other peoples points of view more and learn a great deal along the way, hope this helps.
Also: if you read dumb books like "The Rules", I would think geeks would have the advantage... ie, they don't call you back because they're too busy downloading Quake....
LMAO ( actually crying with laughter ) BTW you're supposed to PAY for Quake so get off that warez site NOW!
I agree, if you want to get VC then you need a team, inventor (=CEO) + financial whizz (=CFO) + production manager bod (=COO) is sort of a minimum, it doesnt matter if you are the one doing all the presenting, they just have to be around to show that as well as having a great idea, you can produce it and make good numbers, if they see all that, then you have a good shot at funding, check out
http://www.garage.com/
a resource for high tech startups, oh and happy hunting.
1. Kryotech already have Athlons with their cooling running at 900MHz
2. 1GHz Athlon is supposed to be around in the beginning of next year
3. Its AI32, in other words a 32 bit version of Merced / Itanium, and the jury is still out on the EPIC archetecture, especially the fact that code needs to be optimised very highly by the compiler and so is ineffecient when it comes to interpreted languages, so it might choke on Java etc.
There is an episode of South Park with cows worshipping a cow clock, and when it is removed by the people, the cows all jump off a cliff, now I've heard that refered to as the Cult of the Dead Cow episode, is it anything to do with cDc or are cults for dead cows just in fashion right now?
The interview was very simple, no indepth questioning. I sent the BBC some questions to make Bill squirm like:-
What do you say to the accusation that the timing of your donations to charity has been driven by the ongoing DOJ (Department of Justice) trial?
You talk in your recent book Business at the Speed of Thought that you have a huge amount of business information at your fingertips, yet one of the Microsoft witmesses, Richard Schmalensee claimed that you didnt, that is was all done on bits of paper, so who is being truthful and who is lying?
... and many more, Paxman can make people sweat with the right info, but he was just fauning over Bill being very light handed, I was really disappointed he could have had a field day. As for how Bill came off in the interview, like a spokeperson for MS, not much else, the only interesting line of questioning was when Paxman asked about "The Road Ahead", but completely missed the fact that it had to be revised for the second edition as in the first Bill talked about CDROMs, and played down the Net. All in all I think the BBC need someone who can brief interviewers on the industry so that they can go in and ask all the difficult questions, otherwise we will just have to wait for the DOJ / Caldera etc to ask the questions in court.
Just thinking about it old media look for sensationalist interpretations because it sells more, so giving an instant viewpoint to the reader / viewer. They profit from people reading their views which are designed to inflame,/. works the other way, by trying to elicit understanding from others. If you think about a Bell curve, old media are at one extreme or another where/. is more in the more central 1-2-3 sigma region, and profit comes from participation, anyone who posts extreme views without building a framework around it as support is moderated down, so extreme views have to be backed with more than "cos I say so", you can lead a man to/. and after enough time, he WILL begin to think. If an extreme view is backed by some persausive arguement, then the Bell curve will move slowly, but inexerably towards a new midpoint closer to that view. So more/. and its ilk, the more chance to explore rather than deplore those with different views. You didnt know you were part of a social revolution did you?
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I hope everyone is buying Puts (sell options) on MS, the price dropped 5% in after hours trading and will be going lower as the judgement sinks in. And for anyone who has not followed the case closely heres a link to all the relevant material on The Register showing how Judge Jackson came to his inevitable conclusion :-
http://www.theregister.co.uk/981020-000020.html
Do you think it is easier for you to adopt Linux in such a high profile way in the UK as we are known for our support of the underdog and fairness so it is easier to go against established dogma / marketing hype as opposed to the US?
Throughout history humanity has being going upward, like a bellcurve extending upwards and at the same time the base extending ever outwards. The Net is important, and /. is as well, at the top end, and here is why. The Net allows people to communicate without skin colour, without nationality, without religious bias (it had to be said), we are equals for once. As for /. one of my freinds who is doing a masters degree in sociology has gained much from The Hellmouth series and various other articles on here, and so do we all, I think you might be surprised in 5 or 10 years at the effect that this forum has had on many aspects of life in general, this is a place for ideas, and discussions about our collective future. Now I agree with you about politicians, most are not like the readers and contributors on /. and I dont think that the present type of politics is designed for the people with the best approach to get elected. I see no point in going into politics, my ideas might work, but I dont come with any ideology, I dont support ideas that are there to make people feel comfortable, I ask questions rather than dispense quick, simplistic answers. Politics is slow and clumsy, those creating the technology for the future are speedy, pinpoint accurate, and can easily overwhelm politicians when they get in the way as in the defeat of the Clipper chip and all the Net censorship bills. For a taste of where we are going check out the following article about Ashoka which supports social entrepreneurs, and they have a web site too :-
h tm
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/98jan/ashoka.
http://www.ashoka.org/
Just remember, we are part of a process, we stand for the future and though most of our names will never be recalled in a century, they will remember what we built together.
Its the herd instinct in overdrive. I love the comments on /. that are expressions of peoples take on a story whether I agree with them or not, I feel very uncomfortable when people start to tell me how to think and feel about something. Perhaps we could have a new moderation added for posts that are there just to direct people how to post / moderate what do you think?
(begin pedantic mode) beaucoup-karma (end pedantic mode)
Welcome to the wonderful world of natural selection, your host this evening is Mr. Darwin, he will explain how spammers are unfit life forms which in time will be erased by equally unfit homocidal elements, that in turn will be incarcerated, therefore elliminating two social ills at once. This has been a pulic service announcement.....
The Resgister story, with more info :-
http://www.theregister.co.uk/991028-000002.html
We've already had a woman Prime Minister, and there are gay members of parliment, only the newspapers / TV actually care if they are gay, most of the rest of the population only care if they are any good e.g. an ex-minister was jailed not that long ago for perjury, which contrasts nicely with Clinton. Oh and one guy by the name of Micheal Portillo actually went up in his ratings after disclosing that he had homosexual experiences while at university and he is in the Conservative Party (our version of Republicans). One last thing one of the ministers of state is even blind and takes his guide (seeing eye) dog in with him.
I'm almost at the end of "The Pearly Gates Of Cyberspace - A History of Space From Dante to The Internet", a really excellent read on how our concept of space has developed though the ages, from religous soul "space" to the Net, I dont quite agree with the ending, but the history is fascinaing and well worth a read.
I agree with :-
:-
but whether or not you need it to feed your soul.
however, personally I do it by making the world a better place, not by some devotion to an unknown and unknowable force, I feel that just makes me weak to say I cant have an impact, thats its all some divine will. Maybe if we all got off our knees to some idol and actually did something positive that we might find the religion meme disappears, and we might make humanity that bit better. As for
It does mean acknowledging one's own need for the unknown, and a way to interact with it.
yes I agree there is the unknown, I see it as just randomness, but that is more difficult to live with than some mystical force that has our interests at heart, but if you need that emmotionally to get though the day then thats fine, just realise what you are doing, and what you are giving up.
Its okay I figured out why :-
... this sig has been terminaled in the name of National Security....
Transcripts of the lectures will be available for purchase upon completion of the series
so if they make it impossible to view online so get you to fork over some money for a dead tree version.
Conspiricy theorist and sarcastic
Well I had the MySQL errors, now I'm on to another set:-
1 .rm?title=Donald
This server has reached its capacity for the requested url.
pnm://media.cmpnet.com/technetcast/tnc_mit_dk_0
To think I actually read DDJ and they cant even run a simple audio / video stream, back to consulting my preist on matters programmatic I think, although if I go Protestant I can do it without the guilt.....
Sarcasm? Whats that?
Yes, we need some thing more relevent, just talking about "business developers" means nothing. Some sort of objectified testing might be more appropriate, e.g. take the cream of developers in each language, and set them all a standarised set of programming tasks, the results are marked for speed of development, clean implementation, readability, portability, speed of execution etc. Then there would be at least a qualitative representation, as it stands the poll is next to useless, just a very sloppy way of garnering some PR.
Surely if TurboLinux et al have done their design correctly it should be possible to patch any kernel source with this code as the overall design is not going to radically change.
Almost forgot, I was once rated by one computer psychometric test and I quote :-
"This man is dangerous, he does not believe in law, only justice"
I agree, it "might" be an overreaction, it seems to me that we need some independent body to vet this product, just like they do for novel foods and drugs, as it has the potential to be very negative or very positive, why not a trial, see what the ratios of false positives and negatives is and have it published like real sceintific data?
Open Source is a licence to mutate the code into whatever you like, and like in nature, the ability to change is a GOOD THING(tm). If Linux was closed, like other *NIX versions I doubt whether it would have got this far, and when I say Linux, I just dont just mean the kernel, I mean all the GNU tools as well (personally I think the FSF and everyone involved with the GNU developments are unsung heroes of the Linux phenonmenon, thank you all). I think that Linux has been a catalyst in the mainstreaming of open source, from its roots with Richard Stallman and the FSF (please no flames on OSS vs. Free Software), as with all groups there are those who spend years in the wilderness, and then a group comes along that makes it palitable to the masses and a massive expansion phase ensues ( a social version of the big bang / inflationary universe theory ), just like the hippies in the 60s talking about environmental issues gave birth to the Green Parties around the globe and GreenPeace, which was the co-opted by the main political parties.
Well actually they are complicated, sorry to break it to you, for example people make a major mistake (e.g. showstopper) in their work on average every 20 days ( this is from university research on product engiineering ). Profiling is only a very rough guide, ever have a profiler say "He was born on the 26th January 1970, has a boyish grin and eats breakfast at McDonalds"? No, its all "Between 25 and 35 might be married, might have parental issues..". And thats a human doing the reasoning, not a computer that is a small fraction of the power we have. There is only one thing that connects all these violent people, namely they get some type of gratification from the violence, and a lot of the time it is a release, a taking of control back that they have lost or think they have lost, people who do not feel in control of their lives will at some point be destructive to themselves or others.
...I believe the greatest frustration about women for men who are used to dealing with Open Source software is that you cannot fix flaws you find in them....
Okay lets take this apart. First what is a "flaw" but a subjective evaluation. Lets try non-optimal code ( note, nature, including natural selection is inherently non optimal so no need to get upset ). Now why cant we all be open source? I am, I allow anyone to talk to me, and question me on what I think / believe, and when I come across something that seems more optimal, I change, and see if it is better for me. Most people who engage in this are "in therapy", I'm not, I've just taken it on as a way of life. It causes some interesting reactions, e.g. a date I had a couple of weeks back sat across the table and said and I quote "I can't believe you're so open, I'm amazed", if you can learn to a) articulate your thoughts and b) be open to change you can be an open source person, its not difficult, just takes practice, then you can appreciate other peoples points of view more and learn a great deal along the way, hope this helps.
Also: if you read dumb books like "The Rules", I would think geeks would have the advantage... ie, they don't call you back because they're too busy downloading Quake....
LMAO ( actually crying with laughter ) BTW you're supposed to PAY for Quake so get off that warez site NOW!
I agree, if you want to get VC then you need a team, inventor (=CEO) + financial whizz (=CFO) + production manager bod (=COO) is sort of a minimum, it doesnt matter if you are the one doing all the presenting, they just have to be around to show that as well as having a great idea, you can produce it and make good numbers, if they see all that, then you have a good shot at funding, check out
http://www.garage.com/
a resource for high tech startups, oh and happy hunting.
1. Kryotech already have Athlons with their cooling running at 900MHz
2. 1GHz Athlon is supposed to be around in the beginning of next year
3. Its AI32, in other words a 32 bit version of Merced / Itanium, and the jury is still out on the EPIC archetecture, especially the fact that code needs to be optimised very highly by the compiler and so is ineffecient when it comes to interpreted languages, so it might choke on Java etc.
There is an episode of South Park with cows worshipping a cow clock, and when it is removed by the people, the cows all jump off a cliff, now I've heard that refered to as the Cult of the Dead Cow episode, is it anything to do with cDc or are cults for dead cows just in fashion right now?
The interview was very simple, no indepth questioning. I sent the BBC some questions to make Bill squirm like :-
What do you say to the accusation that the timing
of your donations to charity has been driven by the ongoing DOJ (Department of Justice) trial?
You talk in your recent book Business at the Speed
of Thought that you have a huge amount of business information at your fingertips, yet one of the Microsoft witmesses, Richard Schmalensee claimed that you didnt, that is was all done on bits of paper, so who is being truthful and who is lying?
... and many more, Paxman can make people sweat with the right info, but he was just fauning over Bill being very light handed, I was really disappointed he could have had a field day. As for how Bill came off in the interview, like a spokeperson for MS, not much else, the only interesting line of questioning was when Paxman asked about "The Road Ahead", but completely missed the fact that it had to be revised for the second edition as in the first Bill talked about CDROMs, and played down the Net. All in all I think the BBC need someone who can brief interviewers on the industry so that they can go in and ask all the difficult questions, otherwise we will just have to wait for the DOJ / Caldera etc to ask the questions in court.
Just thinking about it old media look for sensationalist interpretations because it sells more, so giving an instant viewpoint to the reader / viewer. They profit from people reading their views which are designed to inflame, /. works the other way, by trying to elicit understanding from others. If you think about a Bell curve, old media are at one extreme or another where /. is more in the more central 1-2-3 sigma region, and profit comes from participation, anyone who posts extreme views without building a framework around it as support is moderated down, so extreme views have to be backed with more than "cos I say so", you can lead a man to /. and after enough time, he WILL begin to think. If an extreme view is backed by some persausive arguement, then the Bell curve will move slowly, but inexerably towards a new midpoint closer to that view. So more /. and its ilk, the more chance to explore rather than deplore those with different views. You didnt know you were part of a social revolution did you?