And if you are responsible for making the vulnerability public, I think you should be held partially responsible for whatever damage comes about as a result.
Why is that? You assume that only one person knows of the vulnerability, while a lot of the examples posted so far would be obvious to anyone with a clue. The fact is, the current environment makes reporting a vulnerability privately worse than useless, as people will just sit on the problem until it's exploited, then shoot the messenger. Reporting publically is the only reliable way to ensure a fix. You also neglect that people whose info is stored in such a system are vulnerable regardless of whether the problem is reported.
Deleting evidence is a sure-fire way to get indicted for obstruction of justice, lying to investigators, etc.
Bullshit. It isn't obstruction until there's an investigation (exceptions for legally required document retention). If they find you, tell them you deleted the records 'because you didn't need it anymore'. I suspect that if you tell them it was to avoid being persecuted by some DA looking for a kill, it wouldn't go over too well.
Only on slashdot could anyone be surprised that a man responded to an attractive woman flirting with him.
Only a tool would email someone at their work a sexually explicit proposal (which I assume is what was alluded to) without already being in a sexual relationship. Even then, decency states that you use some innuendo so they don't get in trouble because of your post-teenage lust.
Personally if he's single then he'd have been a dumbass not to
Yeah, by setting up a date, maybe? Once you have her full attention and interest, you can move into NSFW territory.
Oh, technically it can be done, but the problem is the giant egos are unable to not sign their names at the bottom of the postings.
Or they steer clear of things that will get them stomped. Never mind that there's nothing particularly noble about a system where pissing off the wrong person ruins your life. That's been the human condition throughout history, and the greatest achievement of the US government has been its ability to reduce its incidence.
Given the above scenario, you'll run out of fuel for your fission reactors in half a century or so (give or take a few decades), unless you start using breeder reactors, which aren't really a widescale-proven technology, and pose some nuclear proliferation issues. If you're going to pour research money into breeder reactors, why not spend it instead on fusion, which is pretty much the ultimate terrestrial power source?
That timeline is for Uranium at current market rates using non breeder reactors. Breeder reactors using Thorium could potentially last 1000 years or more - there's lots more Thorium laying around, and a breeder setup will make the stuff last up to 20 times as long.
The entire basis of your post seems to be that you can't be bothered to learn a new templating language. And you're a coder??
No, the designer has his head up his ass. He won't deal with php tags (read: leave them alone), and when the coder uses what he wants, he still deletes the tags. My solution is, of course, to use php (the only thing at least one of them knows), and sit the designer down for an attitude adjustment.
I'm the designer, who according to your rather patronising post, couldn't possibly master a new templating language.
No, the designer in his sad story can't be bothered to learn another scripting language. Actually, he can't be bothered to do much of anything. All he really needs to do is not delete tags he doesn't grok.
Designer: No, I never heard of it either and I am going to just delete any html I don't regonise just like I do with php tags.
Coder: Ok, when you do that, I'll just back out the change. I can't be bothered to go reinsert my tags every time you touch something. And I'll also be talking to your boss.
It seems as if all wart cures (except the duct tape cure) are based upon the principle that if you kill all the flesh that the cure comes in contact with, you'll cure the wart.
That explains why my cure worked so well. After getting the damn thing frozen for the fourth time, I took a razor blade and sliced it every 2mm in a crosshatch pattern. That worked.
Compare that with our opposing goal of trying to turn Iraq into a democracy and giving them a state powerful enough to stand alone on its two feet. We have made much progress on this front since March 2003.
Whenever they get done exporting democracy (a bloody stupid idea), maybe they could grow a bit and bring it back here.
Still, it *intentionally* kills, correct?
Or at the very least cripples, yes?
And if not used for that, it is used, at times, with the threat of killing or crippling to gain something else.
You say that as if it were a bad thing. Also, when hunting, you generally only cripple because you missed your shot. You then go finish the job so the animal doesn't suffer.
Semantec probably saw themselves in some kind of mindshare with Microsoft. Not much of a "vista" now? Frankly, when you look at the scattered remains of former companies at the hands of Microsoft it seems a wonder any company would enter into partnerships with them (Citrix, Stacker (is that what it was called?, etc.).
What astounds me is that anyone still partners with MS. They eat everybody that gets in bed with them.
Again, the original point is that you CAN and SHOULD design an operating environment that allows for unforseen user software to be installed, and devices to be supported, without the entire system ever crashing.
Andy's point is that the button isn't on the dash or visible to the user, simply because the vast majority of drivers will never need to push it. The same, sadly, cannot be said about Windows, Linux or MacOS X.
Um, it's a CAR. How many people add stuff to their car that affects the ECU? 5%? It does a fixed set of things and everything is well defined. Not like a PC at all.
If you send dozens of 1KB blocks and then read [say an ACK] you're not working in the same period [e.g. 10x the frequency].
you aren't making sense. A broadcast application on the internet would consist of one server writing and several thousand readers who do not write. That's asymmetrical, and certainly asynchronous. Async would be people watching it at different times.
Also the internet is not meant for broadcast. 80 million people watched Friends each week. That's totally asynchronous. The net is not meant to be so heavily lodsided.
Get a grip, it's asymmetrical. How do you expect anybody to take you serially?
Well, that depends. Let's say you are in a country whose constitution states that "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated"
So what if you have four players in one household? How would "the networked nature of PCs" solve this problem?
You aren't listening, are you? The networked nature of PCs allows these 4 players to each play on their own PC. The fact is, having four players under one roof where they aren't all adults isn't that common, so these four players are more likely than not to already have their own PC if they care about such things.
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And if you are responsible for making the vulnerability public, I think you should be held partially responsible for whatever damage comes about as a result.
Why is that? You assume that only one person knows of the vulnerability, while a lot of the examples posted so far would be obvious to anyone with a clue. The fact is, the current environment makes reporting a vulnerability privately worse than useless, as people will just sit on the problem until it's exploited, then shoot the messenger. Reporting publically is the only reliable way to ensure a fix. You also neglect that people whose info is stored in such a system are vulnerable regardless of whether the problem is reported.
Deleting evidence is a sure-fire way to get indicted for obstruction of justice, lying to investigators, etc.
Bullshit. It isn't obstruction until there's an investigation (exceptions for legally required document retention). If they find you, tell them you deleted the records 'because you didn't need it anymore'. I suspect that if you tell them it was to avoid being persecuted by some DA looking for a kill, it wouldn't go over too well.
Only on slashdot could anyone be surprised that a man responded to an attractive woman flirting with him.
Only a tool would email someone at their work a sexually explicit proposal (which I assume is what was alluded to) without already being in a sexual relationship. Even then, decency states that you use some innuendo so they don't get in trouble because of your post-teenage lust.
Personally if he's single then he'd have been a dumbass not to
Yeah, by setting up a date, maybe? Once you have her full attention and interest, you can move into NSFW territory.
Oh, technically it can be done, but the problem is the giant egos are unable to not sign their names at the bottom of the postings.
Or they steer clear of things that will get them stomped. Never mind that there's nothing particularly noble about a system where pissing off the wrong person ruins your life. That's been the human condition throughout history, and the greatest achievement of the US government has been its ability to reduce its incidence.
Wind Turbines kill no more birds then any other structure the same size. And frankly, they look fantastic
And they make for really entertaining helicopter chase scenes.
Hmm... "Stafire hydrogen converter" ?
Sounds like something a marketroid in a heinlein novel would come up with. Not that that's a bad thing, mind...
Given the above scenario, you'll run out of fuel for your fission reactors in half a century or so (give or take a few decades), unless you start using breeder reactors, which aren't really a widescale-proven technology, and pose some nuclear proliferation issues. If you're going to pour research money into breeder reactors, why not spend it instead on fusion, which is pretty much the ultimate terrestrial power source?
That timeline is for Uranium at current market rates using non breeder reactors. Breeder reactors using Thorium could potentially last 1000 years or more - there's lots more Thorium laying around, and a breeder setup will make the stuff last up to 20 times as long.
The entire basis of your post seems to be that you can't be bothered to learn a new templating language. And you're a coder??
No, the designer has his head up his ass. He won't deal with php tags (read: leave them alone), and when the coder uses what he wants, he still deletes the tags. My solution is, of course, to use php (the only thing at least one of them knows), and sit the designer down for an attitude adjustment.
I'm the designer, who according to your rather patronising post, couldn't possibly master a new templating language.
No, the designer in his sad story can't be bothered to learn another scripting language. Actually, he can't be bothered to do much of anything. All he really needs to do is not delete tags he doesn't grok.
Designer: No, I never heard of it either and I am going to just delete any html I don't regonise just like I do with php tags.
Coder: Ok, when you do that, I'll just back out the change. I can't be bothered to go reinsert my tags every time you touch something. And I'll also be talking to your boss.
It seems as if all wart cures (except the duct tape cure) are based upon the principle that if you kill all the flesh that the cure comes in contact with, you'll cure the wart.
That explains why my cure worked so well. After getting the damn thing frozen for the fourth time, I took a razor blade and sliced it every 2mm in a crosshatch pattern. That worked.
So since you have no written diagnosis, and no evidence, no researcher will pay attention to you.
So what happens when you call the insurance company and tell him you weren't treated?
You meant sodium hypochlorite, right?
Eh, split the difference and use both. It's guaranteed to take your mind off of clothing :)
ind of pounding on cars as the cause of pollution when a large percentage is from the oil refineries(here in texas, anyways).
Trivia for you: what uses the majority of refinery output?
Compare that with our opposing goal of trying to turn Iraq into a democracy and giving them a state powerful enough to stand alone on its two feet. We have made much progress on this front since March 2003.
Whenever they get done exporting democracy (a bloody stupid idea), maybe they could grow a bit and bring it back here.
They dropped the case before it even got to court!
A week before. Surely they could've done it sooner.
I suppose crowbars and hammers should be outlawed, too, since they can be used for burglary.
Already done. Skulking around with all black clothes and a crowbar will get you charged with possession of burglary tools.
Still, it *intentionally* kills, correct? Or at the very least cripples, yes? And if not used for that, it is used, at times, with the threat of killing or crippling to gain something else.
You say that as if it were a bad thing. Also, when hunting, you generally only cripple because you missed your shot. You then go finish the job so the animal doesn't suffer.
Semantec probably saw themselves in some kind of mindshare with Microsoft. Not much of a "vista" now? Frankly, when you look at the scattered remains of former companies at the hands of Microsoft it seems a wonder any company would enter into partnerships with them (Citrix, Stacker (is that what it was called?, etc.).
What astounds me is that anyone still partners with MS. They eat everybody that gets in bed with them.
Again, the original point is that you CAN and SHOULD design an operating environment that allows for unforseen user software to be installed, and devices to be supported, without the entire system ever crashing.
What's that got to do with the Prius?
You're f*%ing welcome. But I did not curse. You assume you know what I mean...
So f*% is a word now? I thought it was just a pussy way to curse without having to type out 'fuck'.
Andy's point is that the button isn't on the dash or visible to the user, simply because the vast majority of drivers will never need to push it. The same, sadly, cannot be said about Windows, Linux or MacOS X.
Um, it's a CAR. How many people add stuff to their car that affects the ECU? 5%? It does a fixed set of things and everything is well defined. Not like a PC at all.
If you send dozens of 1KB blocks and then read [say an ACK] you're not working in the same period [e.g. 10x the frequency].
you aren't making sense. A broadcast application on the internet would consist of one server writing and several thousand readers who do not write. That's asymmetrical, and certainly asynchronous. Async would be people watching it at different times.
So shut your gob.
Ah, shut your own.
Also the internet is not meant for broadcast. 80 million people watched Friends each week. That's totally asynchronous. The net is not meant to be so heavily lodsided.
Get a grip, it's asymmetrical. How do you expect anybody to take you serially?
Well, that depends. Let's say you are in a country whose constitution states that "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated"
Yeah, like that'll ever fly :p
So what if you have four players in one household? How would "the networked nature of PCs" solve this problem?
You aren't listening, are you? The networked nature of PCs allows these 4 players to each play on their own PC. The fact is, having four players under one roof where they aren't all adults isn't that common, so these four players are more likely than not to already have their own PC if they care about such things.