Aah! You have recalled one of my most priceless memories [hunts around for Mastercard lawyers]
There was this family who I'd often visit to geek, but they all had Amigas (A500 etc.) Eventually I convinced them to get a PC. When it arrived, one of them called me up excitedly telling me all about it:
"There's a box next to the computer..."
It took several seconds before it dawned on me what she meant
This still requires somebody on the other end to evaluate all possible software versions and combinations to see what works and what doesn't, though.
Is this going to catch things like a new version of a base package coming out, which breaks a package depending on it? (eg. libmcrypt 2.4.pre-11 breaks PHP)
Will it distinguish between stable versions and development versions? (who has apt-get upgraded their ssh server and found it to become insecure..)
Is there an issue with verifying the servers connected to, incase they have been hacked and trojans installed? (cf. Creative's autoupdate)
You don't know much about computers if you think that those things are going to be the problems..
The major problems would be:
- making extension cables for your PCI etc. slots
- extending all the other cables (including power which, btw is 5V and 12V so not much danger there)
- making sure the cards don't short each other out when it swings around
Re:Yes, it's okay for ISPs to filter for me
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It can be difficult: paying the setup fee to the new ISP, and making a final time payment to the existing ISP (for people on low budgets this sort of thing matters).
Also, losing your email-address is a big thing (many people use their ISP address for primary mail, if only because the free email services out there are pretty awful). On the other hand, this is one way to clear out the current spammers:)
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Your argument only works if a user can ask the ISP to not filter his email, and the ISP complies.
Re:I hate to say this, but much spam comes from *.
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Well, China doesn't recognize Taiwan as an independent nation, so he was half right:)
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Why do you respect him?
Re:You twisted the question though.
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This is quite funny, considering that it is your ISP that was being blacklisted by ORBS. You seem to be advocating that your email should be censored.. that'll save you money;)
The article was pretty uninformative; you can get more info by going to The NZ Herald and searching for "Alan Brown", or ORBS etc.
The ISPs in question believed that they were not running open relays. The issue is not spam, but the possibility that ORBS is using its position of trust with the community to block legitimate e-mail because its manager (who owns his own competing ISP) has personal grievances with the ISPs.
In finding in favour of the ISPs, I would imagine that the court decided that ORBS failed to provide sufficient evidence that the ISPs were in fact running spam relays.
Re:If the end user chooses it isn't censorship
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As a user of the ISP mentioned in the article, the country's largest, I am quite glad this has happened. In the past, my emails (which are nothing to do with spam) have been blocked from certain parts of the Internet because of ISPs using ORBS to get blacklists.
Another local ISP was added to ORBS in the past, because dialup modem users on dynamic IPs were observed to run spam relays. However, the ISP's owner gave Brown a good talking-to and had his ISP un-blacklisted.
What I would like to see is some more responsible management. Now that ORB* is out of the hands of the zealot Brown, we might get that.
Surely that's just a matter of experience. I can -glance- at a page of well-written C and know immediately what it is doing, however Perl looks complicated and contrived to me and it's unclear what all those funny symbols are doing.
CGI tasks are a snap in Perl because it has high-level functions which C standard libraries don't (eg. opening a socket, grabbing lines from a file, string handling,... )
If you've ever written a driver, you will know that it is -not possible- to make it show an error message iff it fails. The best you can do is display an error for a number of common conditions. In fact, the larger part of driver testing is in trying to run it on different machines and see if a situation comes up that the programmer has failed to anticipate.
On the other hand, it is easy to display a message upon success, since all possible success situations (namely, everything goes according to the coder's plan) are known beforehand.
Now, since this story says 124 of 357 posts at threshhold 1, I'm going to see what I'm missing out on...
Are these real scientists here?
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In tests now, the beads can reach rolling speeds of 2 meters per second (or about 4.5 miles per hour) without breaking and a coated water droplet can fall 1 centimeter (about one-fifth inch) without leaking. The water beads also resist merging -- in tests no two water beads have joined when in contact with each other.
So.. how much would you pay for the chance to go into that big room with all the whizzo big computers and routers and wires, and see a PC and go "Hey! That's slashdot!!:D!"
If this isn't 31337 then I don't know what is..
Why, that reminds me of a Red Hat box booting up and saying "Starting sendmail..." and then hanging. You can't get to any other login screens, you have to reboot and do Interactive startup and not start sednmail.
Sure, it's easy to fix, but MS aren't the only ones who do it..
? I can find all kinds of documents on the American Civil War, the Industrial Revolution, etc. but it is much harder to find good documentation of things that happened in 3000 B.C.
The 3000 BC population must have been the ancestors of Microsoft
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$1000 for 3 days works out to a salary of $67k (assuming 200 working days in the year).. that's no chicken feed
Aah! You have recalled one of my most priceless memories [hunts around for Mastercard lawyers]
There was this family who I'd often visit to geek, but they all had Amigas (A500 etc.) Eventually I convinced them to get a PC. When it arrived, one of them called me up excitedly telling me all about it:
"There's a box next to the computer..."
It took several seconds before it dawned on me what she meant
Is this going to catch things like a new version of a base package coming out, which breaks a package depending on it? (eg. libmcrypt 2.4.pre-11 breaks PHP)
Will it distinguish between stable versions and development versions? (who has apt-get upgraded their ssh server and found it to become insecure..)
Is there an issue with verifying the servers connected to, incase they have been hacked and trojans installed? (cf. Creative's autoupdate)
Does it explain how DVD encryption works? :)
I always wanted to fill it with mercury; then you could wreck things really fast.
Unfortunately, I suspect it would be too dense for the trigger mechanism
What's with this recent trend of calling the whole computer the CPU?
Not if Microsoft gets their way..
You don't know much about computers if you think that those things are going to be the problems..
The major problems would be:
- making extension cables for your PCI etc. slots
- extending all the other cables (including power which, btw is 5V and 12V so not much danger there)
- making sure the cards don't short each other out when it swings around
It can be difficult: paying the setup fee to the new ISP, and making a final time payment to the existing ISP (for people on low budgets this sort of thing matters). :)
Also, losing your email-address is a big thing (many people use their ISP address for primary mail, if only because the free email services out there are pretty awful). On the other hand, this is one way to clear out the current spammers
Your argument only works if a user can ask the ISP to not filter his email, and the ISP complies.
Well, China doesn't recognize Taiwan as an independent nation, so he was half right :)
Why do you respect him?
This is quite funny, considering that it is your ISP that was being blacklisted by ORBS. You seem to be advocating that your email should be censored .. that'll save you money ;)
The ISPs in question believed that they were not running open relays. The issue is not spam, but the possibility that ORBS is using its position of trust with the community to block legitimate e-mail because its manager (who owns his own competing ISP) has personal grievances with the ISPs.
In finding in favour of the ISPs, I would imagine that the court decided that ORBS failed to provide sufficient evidence that the ISPs were in fact running spam relays.
Another local ISP was added to ORBS in the past, because dialup modem users on dynamic IPs were observed to run spam relays. However, the ISP's owner gave Brown a good talking-to and had his ISP un-blacklisted.
What I would like to see is some more responsible management. Now that ORB* is out of the hands of the zealot Brown, we might get that.
Surely that's just a matter of experience. I can -glance- at a page of well-written C and know immediately what it is doing, however Perl looks complicated and contrived to me and it's unclear what all those funny symbols are doing.
... )
CGI tasks are a snap in Perl because it has high-level functions which C standard libraries don't (eg. opening a socket, grabbing lines from a file, string handling,
If you've ever written a driver, you will know that it is -not possible- to make it show an error message iff it fails. The best you can do is display an error for a number of common conditions. In fact, the larger part of driver testing is in trying to run it on different machines and see if a situation comes up that the programmer has failed to anticipate.
On the other hand, it is easy to display a message upon success, since all possible success situations (namely, everything goes according to the coder's plan) are known beforehand.
I don't give a fuck what the boot screen says.
Now, since this story says 124 of 357 posts at threshhold 1, I'm going to see what I'm missing out on...
Since when did 1cm = 0.2in ?
This is shameful. Napster should shut itself down while it still has a shred of dignity, before it becomes a free marketing tool for the RIAA.
Some people think Shawn Fanning's greatest masterwork was creating Napster; in fact it was getting the hell out of there before it came to this.
So.. how much would you pay for the chance to go into that big room with all the whizzo big computers and routers and wires, and see a PC and go "Hey! That's slashdot!! :D!"
If this isn't 31337 then I don't know what is..
(Maybe a topic for next week's poll)
Why, that reminds me of a Red Hat box booting up and saying "Starting sendmail..." and then hanging. You can't get to any other login screens, you have to reboot and do Interactive startup and not start sednmail.
Sure, it's easy to fix, but MS aren't the only ones who do it..
This is a stripped down version of the Gnomite project, which has a lot of extra features nobody uses.
The 3000 BC population must have been the ancestors of Microsoft
The trouble with this is that no scientist has ever tested this hypothesis and succeeded (but there have been several failures).
However, the kite theory has now been tested (Stonehenge comes to mind as somewhere where this would have been perfect).