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  1. Re:You ignorant savage... on Evolution - Beyond the Popular Science · · Score: 1
    Ahh, the first iteration of the "I was only following orders" defense?

    Well, that's what it looks like if you don't believe. My point is that the morality described in the Bible is self-consistent if you examine it in more depth that a middle-school student.

  2. Re:Scientific American article. on Evolution - Beyond the Popular Science · · Score: 1
    That should perhaps be title "15 Answers to Popular Creationist Nonsense".

    Creation theorists don't actually hold to the arguments discussed in the article.

    http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/fuz_r ana_glenn_mitchell_show.html?main

  3. Roman Catholicism vs. Christianity vs. Science on Evolution - Beyond the Popular Science · · Score: 1
    filled with instances of the Christian church condemning the scientific world

    Don't confuse the "Christian Church" with the Roman Catholic Church. Contrary to Roman Catholic teaching, the Pope is NOT the head of the church. The Pope and the Roman Catholic church may have tried to control a few people and their ideas, but Christianity has as a theme that believers should do the research, and check things out for themselves.

    As an interesting side note, the Roman Catholic Church does sponsor scientific reasearch. Unfortunately, I have no links handy.

  4. Re:ok, I'll 'bite' on Evolution - Beyond the Popular Science · · Score: 2
    Their descendants were not punished (for that sin), but they did live with the consequenses of that sin. The sinners will be punished in the afterlife, if you're not satisfied with what happened in this life. The fact that sin can have unpleasant consequences on others is one of the things that makes it bad.

    Next you'll ask why God allows us to hurt each other by sinning. Briefly, because this is a necessary component of the creation of creatures with free will. We have the free will to make choices. Those choices can impact the world around us. Also, there is a reason why we are given free will.

  5. You ignorant savage... on Evolution - Beyond the Popular Science · · Score: 2
    Why don't YOU try reading it? The Old Testament Law given through Moses is pretty easily summed up by the golden rule. Be nice to each other. This even extended to animals in places.

    If you do actually study The Bible, you'll see that the Isrealites never commited genocide without a direct order from God, as punishment on a completely corrupted race.

    Apart from obedience to a direct order from God to carry out His judgement, the Isrealites could not have accomplished these military conquests within the bounds of the Moral Law. To do so would have VIOLATED their morality by presuming to pass judgement in God's place.

    As for the events of 9-11-01, what makes you think those attacks were compatable with Hebrew morality? Don't assess a morality by those who don't adhere to it. The same goes for the Crusades. That whole series of atrocities may have happened in the "name" of Christianity, but not within any Christian morality or obedience to God. Don't mistake the Pope for God.

  6. Re:All things considered on Evolution - Beyond the Popular Science · · Score: 1

    Well, the moon recession rates and dust a famous straw man arguments. Arguing against them is easy and really only arguing against the straw man of the uneducated creationist.

    To find out what thinking, educated creationists think, have a look at www.reasons.org. This organization is devoted to building a viable scientific theory of creation.