Yeah. There are some really unnecessary missing shortcuts in this thing. After point 5, they should simply have linked to the jad file, and be done. They obviously had a session ID, associated with a phone number, at that point. But let's see how they look in one month.
I'm pretty sure most Americans hadn't even heard about FIAT
I'm sorry, but that argument is moot, in the face of the fact that most Americans haven't heard about anything outside their national borders. And most outside their city and TV borders. ^^
I still hope for the cool part of America to split, and leave the bible-redneck-FOX part.:) There are so many great things an people in America, that are hold back by their false values and rules.
Well it is there, where your statement that "Logic is imperfect, so we must abandon it completely!" is faulty logic itself.:P
And about the imperfection: It all comes down to the ultimate "why", that can't be removed. Religion "solves" it trough "god". Healthy people "solve" it with there being no "before" the big bang. Yet still, of course, you can ask where those phenomena came from. And so on. We will most likely never be able to answer that question. (But we will keep trying.)
Meanwhile, this then comes down to what helps us get to our target in the most efficient and fast way. I say in that field nothing beats science and logic. It fosters thinking. While religion stifles it.
And I take, whatever gives me spaceships, bionic systems, artificial intelligence, computer games, and the most tasty food ever. ^^
Well, pretty much everyone I know owns either a Nokia, or a SonyEricsson. So there's that. I have yet so see my first iPhone user here in Cologne, Germany. I once saw one with something that turned out to be a Samsung phone. There simply are too many features missing in the iPhone, for it to be taken seriously here. Also, nobody of those I asked about their phone, knew that they were running Symbian. They did not care anyway.
And I am sick of people acting as if it were somehow better to work on the lowest of all levels!
I don't mean levels of inner platforms. I mean levels of abstraction. For programming efficiency. To make more sense.
That in these days, people who write normal applications still mess around with basic and long-solved stuff like memory management, garbage collection, and variables/pointers, when they should write the application logic only, and be done in a fraction of the time, while guaranteeing stability and security, is just retarded.
Maybe you had more time, if you would use a modern language!
My language of choice: Haskell. Because it just makes fuckin' SENSE for once! (I chose that language, because I was in the process of developing the [for me] perfect language, when I noticed, that Haskell did it all exactly that way, but even better. Haskell is how I think, and always thought about programs.)
Can anyone explain to me, why you would create a GUI in assembler? To re-invent the wheel as often as possible? Because you can write better code on-the-fly, as a library that is improved for over a decade? Because it's so much harder for no reason? Because you dislike the usefulness of abstraction?
What has OpenMokos pace to do with that it was open source. Those things are unrelated.
If they would have been closed source, they would not have been faster. Rather even slower.
I think the OpenMoko people thought "hey, we just call it open source, and we can let the users do the all the work!" Well. It does not work like that. You, as a company, still have to hire developers, just like the big companies.
Would they have worked just like Google or Apple, then speed would have been the same, no matter if it's open source.
But, and that is the point: It's only a question of money.
Similarly, Java applications that are written for Android can't run in regular Java virtual machine implementations or in standard Java ME environments.
I can't find this Ok, but object to Microsoft doing the same thing wit Java back when they were making their own version, and got (rightfully) sued for it.
If it's a custom compiler, I think they should not call it Java anymore. If it's a custom Library, it should be a portable library, that can be used on any Java system.
I developed a whole modular on-the-fly validation library, with cross-dependency support, easy use, and both a server and a client side. I still have it around here somewhere.
I wanna see them sue me on that. I'd kick the living crap out of them. ^^
Well, they are very experienced and in their business for literally centuries. They know how to infiltrate politics, mothers, and everything. It's going to be pretty hard. I say we put a fence around it, make a new state, declaring religion and cultism two stages of a disease, and then nuke everything in that fence from orbit. Just to be sure.
See it as a good thing. It's a way of natural selection. If you think you've got "thetans", you die. Sounds about right to me, to make future people not believe they got "thetans" ^^
Of course, it would be better to offer them a therapy. But as that would cost emotional investment and money, nobody cares.:(
Interestingly, just now I found a fortune cookie from the future, that fell out of a wormhole. And it said: "If you rickroll an entire galaxy, and nobody gets it, is it funny?"
No because the Internet is "like a Highway", it should have guard rails, road surface markings, ramps, been made out of asphalt, and everything else, regardless of it making no sense at all in that context? Wow.
On the other hand: EVERYONE who even forwards this guy's crap, is himself responsible for the popularity of his crap. He's just a troll, trolling the whole nation, instead of just a forum. So please behave in the same way here: Completely ignore everything of him.
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Yeah. There are some really unnecessary missing shortcuts in this thing.
After point 5, they should simply have linked to the jad file, and be done. They obviously had a session ID, associated with a phone number, at that point.
But let's see how they look in one month.
I wonder if they fixed the horrible threading model in Symbian.
Qt for Symbian would be really cool. I think in the long run, Symbian's core will be replaced by some lightweight variant of Linux.
I'm pretty sure most Americans hadn't even heard about FIAT
I'm sorry, but that argument is moot, in the face of the fact that most Americans haven't heard about anything outside their national borders. And most outside their city and TV borders. ^^
I still hope for the cool part of America to split, and leave the bible-redneck-FOX part. :)
There are so many great things an people in America, that are hold back by their false values and rules.
Well it is there, where your statement that "Logic is imperfect, so we must abandon it completely!" is faulty logic itself. :P
And about the imperfection: It all comes down to the ultimate "why", that can't be removed. Religion "solves" it trough "god". Healthy people "solve" it with there being no "before" the big bang. Yet still, of course, you can ask where those phenomena came from. And so on.
We will most likely never be able to answer that question. (But we will keep trying.)
Meanwhile, this then comes down to what helps us get to our target in the most efficient and fast way.
I say in that field nothing beats science and logic. It fosters thinking.
While religion stifles it.
And I take, whatever gives me spaceships, bionic systems, artificial intelligence, computer games, and the most tasty food ever. ^^
Moderators lost their humor *again*?
Do I always have to clean up your droppings after you?
You are grounded on 4chan for one whole week, young sir! ^^
Well, pretty much everyone I know owns either a Nokia, or a SonyEricsson. So there's that. I have yet so see my first iPhone user here in Cologne, Germany.
I once saw one with something that turned out to be a Samsung phone.
There simply are too many features missing in the iPhone, for it to be taken seriously here.
Also, nobody of those I asked about their phone, knew that they were running Symbian. They did not care anyway.
Oh, and I noticed that nobody has posted a link to this yet: http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone ^^
Well, I bet you can run an IDE in it.
By the way: Is that virtual machine for Emacs done already? I want to install Vista in it, and then install Emacs in that! ^^
Well, I thought about this, and there is a logic problem in there: It is impossible to know if we know enough, without testing our knowledge.
Hence the nuclear tests is the 40s. ^^
I say: You developed it, you try it on yourself! ^^
I also see nothing wrong with killing people. Just as "dirty" as rats, and there also always are too many of them! :P
I hope you see the point I'm trying to make.
try:
repeat:
No. Not that point.
Think even deeper.
except BrainLimitsReached:
You almost were there.
Well, better than nothing.
And I am sick of people acting as if it were somehow better to work on the lowest of all levels!
I don't mean levels of inner platforms. I mean levels of abstraction. For programming efficiency. To make more sense.
That in these days, people who write normal applications still mess around with basic and long-solved stuff like memory management, garbage collection, and variables/pointers, when they should write the application logic only, and be done in a fraction of the time, while guaranteeing stability and security, is just retarded.
Maybe you had more time, if you would use a modern language!
My language of choice: Haskell. Because it just makes fuckin' SENSE for once! (I chose that language, because I was in the process of developing the [for me] perfect language, when I noticed, that Haskell did it all exactly that way, but even better. Haskell is how I think, and always thought about programs.)
Can anyone explain to me, why you would create a GUI in assembler? To re-invent the wheel as often as possible? Because you can write better code on-the-fly, as a library that is improved for over a decade? Because it's so much harder for no reason? Because you dislike the usefulness of abstraction?
I don't get it.
Or have we all just been whoooshed?
I might destroy your world view with this, but:
Neither nor! And sometimes a bit of both!
Rule 1 to spotting a retard: He acts as if 1/0 dichotomies existed.
(Rule 2: He thinks that there is only one dimension/property/factor in something.)
What's the difference? I thought they would be the same...
Oh, and: I don't get that versioning...
Vista = 6.0
Vista SP1 = 6.0
Vista SP2 = 6.0 = Win 7
Makes no sense either way. ^^
I thought it would still take another RC...
Ow! That was so bad, it did Hurd!
What has OpenMokos pace to do with that it was open source. Those things are unrelated.
If they would have been closed source, they would not have been faster. Rather even slower.
I think the OpenMoko people thought "hey, we just call it open source, and we can let the users do the all the work!"
Well. It does not work like that. You, as a company, still have to hire developers, just like the big companies.
Would they have worked just like Google or Apple, then speed would have been the same, no matter if it's open source.
But, and that is the point: It's only a question of money.
Says who?
Why would that change anything?
It's not as if those 99.9% of the phone buyers that never ever change their phone software, would suddenly hack it, just because it's open source.
Similarly, Java applications that are written for Android can't run in regular Java virtual machine implementations or in standard Java ME environments.
I can't find this Ok, but object to Microsoft doing the same thing wit Java back when they were making their own version, and got (rightfully) sued for it.
If it's a custom compiler, I think they should not call it Java anymore. If it's a custom Library, it should be a portable library, that can be used on any Java system.
What do you think? :)
(Please, no fanboyism.
Wanna know what both states -- rejecting everything without really checking and accepting everything without really checking -- have in common?
Lazyness.
I developed a whole modular on-the-fly validation library, with cross-dependency support, easy use, and both a server and a client side. I still have it around here somewhere.
I wanna see them sue me on that. I'd kick the living crap out of them. ^^
Well, they are very experienced and in their business for literally centuries. They know how to infiltrate politics, mothers, and everything. It's going to be pretty hard.
I say we put a fence around it, make a new state, declaring religion and cultism two stages of a disease, and then nuke everything in that fence from orbit. Just to be sure.
See it as a good thing. It's a way of natural selection. If you think you've got "thetans", you die. Sounds about right to me, to make future people not believe they got "thetans" ^^
Of course, it would be better to offer them a therapy. But as that would cost emotional investment and money, nobody cares. :(
Why does any "religion" have the status of a religion at all?
It's like saying: Ok, so many people have this disease, that we just declare it as the new "healthy", and be done with it. ^^
I think I just have problems with abandoning my beloved *LOGIC*. ^^
Interestingly, just now I found a fortune cookie from the future, that fell out of a wormhole. And it said:
"If you rickroll an entire galaxy, and nobody gets it, is it funny?"
No because the Internet is "like a Highway", it should have guard rails, road surface markings, ramps, been made out of asphalt, and everything else, regardless of it making no sense at all in that context? Wow.
On the other hand: EVERYONE who even forwards this guy's crap, is himself responsible for the popularity of his crap. He's just a troll, trolling the whole nation, instead of just a forum. So please behave in the same way here: Completely ignore everything of him.
From now on, he does not exist anymore. Period. :)