There are those who swear with much conviction that thay have seen Elvis after his death, or have been abducted by aliens on a regular basis.
Or perhaps a little closer to home, there have been people who swear that they are the second coming of Jesus (e.g. David Koresh).
Also, how do you reconcile your experience with God, with all the various people in the past who have claim to have congregated with Zeus, Vishnu Quetzacoatl, Odin, Osiris, Guan-yin, Anu, Allah, Amitabha, etc..etc...? Someone's gotta be in the wrong here, could it be you?
I don't ardently believe that "there is no god", anymore than I ardently believe that "there is no FuBar the Pink Fuzzy UberDragon" or "there are no Underpants gnomes."
The high school I graduated from was more than 90% of the same faith. Yet they couldn't get together and have a prayer within the school building, at a ceremony specifically for them, to celebrate their accomplishment.
I'm sorry. What kind of ceremony was there at school that was specifically for the people of a certain religion? Are you talking about Christmas?
Depending on how much they've made since Dec. 1999, they could very well be in the $40 million dollar range. They just weren't very specific when they were referring to "revenue".
I should also point out that the $184,000 in training income is nothing compared to Bob Youngs 228K Salary.
The CFO and COO of Amazon each make $3.1 mil and $2.3 mil respectively in salary, while the company has a $308 mil loss for the year.
Bruce Twickler, CEO of Andover.net makes $147K, while the company had a -$3,473,000.00 loss.
A guy's gotta live;)
I would also point out that the only sucessful OS products he mentioned were apache, and sendmail. How long ago were they written?
Actually, he also mentioned DNS and Bind. But it matters little when they were written: the very fact that these programs exist obliterates the statement "Open Source has gained so much momentum without showing any goods."
BECAUSE I BORROWED THESE CD'S FROM MY LOCAL LIBRARY. What a lot of this debate misses is one key fact: there are ways of getting the good parts of MP3 and Napster without breaking the law.
I think you're missing a key fact. The library's is great for getting your precious barbershop quartet CD's, but what about DMX's "Niggas and Bitches"? Or how about the latest Slayer, Cannibal Corpse, or Morbid Angel?
Ok, I understand the preceding albums might not be suitable for library-going audiences, but perhaps they carry the newest CD's by Orbital, Moby, or Sash? I think not.
Nevermind the fact that even if they did, I could just rip them onto my HD and convert them to MP3's.
Overclocking is one of the few "geek" pasttimes (actually a rather new one) that will not trickle out into the mainstream as other techs like MP3 have. The car analogy is always a good one, and just as only talented mechanics dare try improving their cars through dangerous methods like NO2, only hadrware geeks that build their own machines will change jumpers, add absurd cooling, and even cut and solder to crank out an extra 20% speed.
Overclocking is so easy nowadays its trivial. All I had to do was go into my BIOS and change the FSB speed. Simple!
The hardest part was buying a new heatsink/fan combo and applying thermal paste (and maybe lapping the CPU). I think that as the computer market matures, more companies (like VIA, Asus etc..) will start making it easier for people to overclock their systems.
Of course if you're going to start OCing Athlon 750's up into the 1Ghz+ stratosphere, then I suppose you truly are part of the 'counterculture'.
Even/. allows for anonymous postings. How many people here use anonymity to attack others (personally and impersonally) on the net ? Think this doesn't affect them personally ?
Does knowing that "Panduh", or "pvente" posted something mean more to you than "Anonymous Coward?"
The Gargoyles voice-cast was a veritable who's who of Star Trek regulars.
Desdemona: Marina Sirtis (Deanna Troi) Coldstone: Michael Dorn (Worf) Xanatos: Jonathan Frakes (Will Riker) Owen, Puck: Brent Spiner(Data) Titania, Anastasia Renard: Kate Mulgrew (Capt. Janeway)
Also some other well-known actors:
Hudson: Ed Asner (Mary Tyler Moore Show) Fox: Laura San Giacomo (Just Shoot Me) Broadway: Bill Faggerbakke (Coach)
Keith David, the latter-day James Earl Jones, voiced Goliath. He also provides the voice for Spawn on HBO and played Cameron Diaz's father in "Something about Mary" ("open up a can'o whoopass!").
This was definitely one of the best American animated series ever created.
Swiftech has a new SE (side exhaust) fan system that draws air perpendicular to the heat sink. Supposedly it uses the Venturi effect to cool the heat sink down further. It also leads air directly into the path of the rear exhaust fan. Unfortunately, it also looks bulky enough to block certain important components on a less than ample mobo (such as a microATX).
Thats the reason why you should coat your processor and the surrounding area with a thin layer of silicon. HLT and CPUIdle are good utilities for keeping the CPU cool. You may not be overclocking, but to an overclocker, every degree makes counts.
The point is that Apple will never port Quicktime to Linux because Linux+Quicktime would eliminate the need to run OS/X+QuickTime.
So, you're saying that the primary reason for not porting a Quicktime player to Linux is to preserve OS-X sales? Just because I can't play.MOV files on Linux, I am going to choose OS-X over Linux? C'mon, thats crazy. I could just boot into the included MacOS to play my movies, and boot right back into Linux when I'm done.
Apple gives away its Quicktime player and plugin for free, it obviously doesn't make money on that. It makes its money on the compression and authoring tools, and don't you think they'd want to try and develop as large a user base as possible for it?
. Linux is not more helpful for one group then it is for another. (I can run the same dist on Alpha, Sparc, i386, and perhaps PPC) If I don't need apple hardware to run my programs, I have less reasons to use it.
How about the fact that a G4 has an incredibly powerful processor, and it might run Linux, and Linux applications faster than your standard PC? You said yourself that Apple is a hardware company, so why get bogged down in OS's, which is software?
If there was the same Linux under PPC and Alpha, what incentive do I have to buy Mac?.
By your logic, why would anyone want to buy a PC instead of an Alpha?
1.) Price. 2.) Convenience.
The fact that a Mac can also run MacOS and its various multimedia apps, and has a relatively wide user base is a powerful motivator.
20x earnings is an absurdly high multiple for any business.
I think you are being just a tad conservative with your estimates. Many businesses regularly have earnings growths of well over 20% per year. In fact, many Internet start-ups have earnings growth rates in the hundreds and thousand percent range.
The S&P 500 has been averaging around 18x - 20x earnings for the past 5 years, why is it so absurd for a high-growth Internet company to be a piddly 20x?
Think about this logically. Any buyer is in this as an investment. If they aren't getting a good rate of return, why not invest in a mutual fund? 'Potential' for huge future earnings is all very well, but you have to consider where those earnings will come from
Welcome to the 1990's. The high technology market isn't driven by dividends, but by potential. Microsoft has so much cash its literally bursting at the seams, but it has yet to issue dividends, because it feels it still has a ton of room to grow through R&D and acquisitions. Potential is what the markets is all about. If you want safe, steady, earnings, go buy yourself an annuity.
Mutual funds have less risk, so yes, on a risk/reward basis a good mutual fund is the way to go. But it just doesn't compare to the 500% return that you get from an Internet IPO.
I would suggest tallying up your current book (asset) value and use that as a basis. If you're web site was expected to make $0, thats how much you would sell it for.
Next, take the present value of your expected future earnings and tack it on to that figure. Basically, cook up a reasonable growth model, and divide it by the best estimates of current and future interest rates. (Its been a long while since my last finance class, so you're going to have to look it up yourself.) What you end up with should be a good approximation of what your web site is worth. Of course, nowadays, this number will probably be too small, since there is so much hype around Internet IPO's. You might need to figure in stock-market capital appreciation as well.
Try looking at some Corporate Finance/Merger & Acquisition texts, since it basically revolves around valuing and and maximizing the value of companies.
If there was a bug in my browser that would allow someone to tamper with my system, or track my actions, don't you think I would want to know so that I could use another browser?
While I'm surfing away oblivious to this bug, malicious hackers who have attained knowledge of this bug are busy uploading Back Orifice on my system.
Its not a theory, its a wager. It is also a false dichotomy because is does not cover all the issues. It is not just about x and !x, there is also y and !y, and z and !z and q and p.... If I take Pascal's Wager and worship Jesus, and end up at Allah's feet after death, I am majorly screwed.
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Scientific theories can be, are encourages to be and are regularly - disproven. How about philosophical theories?
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But it is not falsifyable, because we can just explain everything with his existance (such as people did in the stone age where everything could be explained through deities).
Actually, God is not falsifiable because we have no terms upon which God can be proven non-existent. Since we can assign whatever attribute we want to God (like omnipotence and omniscience). We can use ad-hoc arguments such as "God works in mysterious ways", or "God does it for the greater good" to explain away any any contrary evidence.
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But perhaps the more important question is, why are you so against a God that you discard the possibility of one? Does not a good scientist write down all hypotheses before evaluating them?
Because the answer of "GOD" is acually a non-answer.
If I just go ahead and ask, "What caused the creation of God"? You would say, "God Just Is.(tm) He is infinite."
Then I'd say, "Well that went nowhere. I could have said the 'Universe Just Is. It is Infinite'".
We could go on into an infinite regression of entities, or we can apply Occam's Razor. What is the rational choice?
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." -- Albert Einstein
"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religion than it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." -- Albert Einstein
Pretty much discounts most popular religions nowadays. An impersonal god is no better explanation than no god at all.
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God lets us poo-pah on God because we have free will. If we didn't, we could all have a dictorial God and that would be that.:P
::chuckle:: if he's not "dictorial" does that mean we live in a democratic universe where we can vote to impeach God if we are not satisfied? How about all the different religions? Shouldn't we have a parliament with representatives so that we could all vote to pass bills and amendments upon God's creation? Can we set terms and elect a new God ever 4 years?
Power to the People!
...the latest Discovery mag (no link, I get the dead-tree version) wants to say that subatomic physics are self organizing. This is great, except when I open a box of LEGOs, a car doesn't fall out.
Of course not. Like you, God had to personally assemble the blocks of his "Universe Lego Mindstorm" set too. Thats the whole point of Legos.
Of course this brings up the question of God's creator and his "God Lego Mindstorm" set, and God's creator's creator and his "God's Creator Lego Mindstorm" set...
Ouch! That Occam's Razor is sharp!
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Let A = Existence of Invisible Underpants Fairies
Let B = Existence of Purple People Eaters
Let C = Existence of Elvis swiveling his hips on the Darkside of the Moon
Let D = Existence of SNAFOO, the all-powerful, all-knowing, who resides in a magic chocolate dimension where everything is made of chocolate.
.... . Are you getting the point yet, or do I need to conjure some more imaginary beings for you to waffle over?
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Or perhaps a little closer to home, there have been people who swear that they are the second coming of Jesus (e.g. David Koresh).
Also, how do you reconcile your experience with God, with all the various people in the past who have claim to have congregated with Zeus, Vishnu Quetzacoatl, Odin, Osiris, Guan-yin, Anu, Allah, Amitabha, etc..etc...? Someone's gotta be in the wrong here, could it be you?
I don't ardently believe that "there is no god", anymore than I ardently believe that "there is no FuBar the Pink Fuzzy UberDragon" or "there are no Underpants gnomes."
Most babies are born atheists.
I'm sorry. What kind of ceremony was there at school that was specifically for the people of a certain religion? Are you talking about Christmas?
I think he might be stating total revenue since they formed the company.
1995 : $482,000
1996 : $930,000
1997 : $2,603,000
1998 : $5,156,000
1999 : $10,790,000
9 mo. through 11/99 : $12,300,000
Total : ~ $33,000,000
Depending on how much they've made since Dec. 1999, they could very well be in the $40 million dollar range. They just weren't very specific when they were referring to "revenue".
I should also point out that the $184,000 in training income is nothing compared to Bob Youngs 228K Salary.
The CFO and COO of Amazon each make $3.1 mil and $2.3 mil respectively in salary, while the company has a $308 mil loss for the year.
Bruce Twickler, CEO of Andover.net makes $147K, while the company had a -$3,473,000.00 loss.
A guy's gotta live ;)
I would also point out that the only sucessful OS products he mentioned were apache, and sendmail. How long ago were they written?
Actually, he also mentioned DNS and Bind. But it matters little when they were written: the very fact that these programs exist obliterates the statement "Open Source has gained so much momentum without showing any goods."
I think you're missing a key fact. The library's is great for getting your precious barbershop quartet CD's, but what about DMX's "Niggas and Bitches"? Or how about the latest Slayer, Cannibal Corpse, or Morbid Angel?
Ok, I understand the preceding albums might not be suitable for library-going audiences, but perhaps they carry the newest CD's by Orbital, Moby, or Sash? I think not.
Nevermind the fact that even if they did, I could just rip them onto my HD and convert them to MP3's.
Can't imagine what kind of damage a scr1pt k1dd13 could do with r00t access :)
Overclocking is so easy nowadays its trivial. All I had to do was go into my BIOS and change the FSB speed. Simple!
The hardest part was buying a new heatsink/fan combo and applying thermal paste (and maybe lapping the CPU). I think that as the computer market matures, more companies (like VIA, Asus etc..) will start making it easier for people to overclock their systems.
Of course if you're going to start OCing Athlon 750's up into the 1Ghz+ stratosphere, then I suppose you truly are part of the 'counterculture'.
Does knowing that "Panduh", or "pvente" posted something mean more to you than "Anonymous Coward?"
Desdemona: Marina Sirtis (Deanna Troi)
Coldstone: Michael Dorn (Worf)
Xanatos: Jonathan Frakes (Will Riker)
Owen, Puck: Brent Spiner(Data)
Titania, Anastasia Renard: Kate Mulgrew (Capt. Janeway)
Also some other well-known actors:
Hudson: Ed Asner (Mary Tyler Moore Show)
Fox: Laura San Giacomo (Just Shoot Me)
Broadway: Bill Faggerbakke (Coach)
Keith David, the latter-day James Earl Jones, voiced Goliath. He also provides the voice for Spawn on HBO and played Cameron Diaz's father in "Something about Mary" ("open up a can'o whoopass!").
This was definitely one of the best American animated series ever created.
Swiftech has a new SE (side exhaust) fan system that draws air perpendicular to the heat sink. Supposedly it uses the Venturi effect to cool the heat sink down further. It also leads air directly into the path of the rear exhaust fan. Unfortunately, it also looks bulky enough to block certain important components on a less than ample mobo (such as a microATX).
Thats the reason why you should coat your processor and the surrounding area with a thin layer of silicon. HLT and CPUIdle are good utilities for keeping the CPU cool. You may not be overclocking, but to an overclocker, every degree makes counts.
Is that piece of text legal or illegal?
How does the current legal system differentiate between Shakespeare's Hamlet, and the Anarchist's Cookbook?
So, you're saying that the primary reason for not porting a Quicktime player to Linux is to preserve OS-X sales? Just because I can't play .MOV files on Linux, I am going to choose OS-X over Linux?
C'mon, thats crazy. I could just boot into the included MacOS to play my movies, and boot right back into Linux when I'm done.
Apple gives away its Quicktime player and plugin for free, it obviously doesn't make money on that. It makes its money on the compression and authoring tools, and don't you think they'd want to try and develop as large a user base as possible for it?
How about the fact that a G4 has an incredibly powerful processor, and it might run Linux, and Linux applications faster than your standard PC? You said yourself that Apple is a hardware company, so why get bogged down in OS's, which is software?
If there was the same Linux under PPC and Alpha, what incentive do I have to buy Mac?.
By your logic, why would anyone want to buy a PC instead of an Alpha?
1.) Price.
2.) Convenience.
The fact that a Mac can also run MacOS and its various multimedia apps, and has a relatively wide user base is a powerful motivator.
I think you are being just a tad conservative with your estimates. Many businesses regularly have earnings growths of well over 20% per year. In fact, many Internet start-ups have earnings growth rates in the hundreds and thousand percent range.
The S&P 500 has been averaging around 18x - 20x earnings for the past 5 years, why is it so absurd for a high-growth Internet company to be a piddly 20x?
Think about this logically. Any buyer is in this as an investment. If they aren't getting a good rate of return, why not invest in a mutual fund? 'Potential' for huge future earnings is all very well, but you have to consider where those earnings will come from
Welcome to the 1990's. The high technology market isn't driven by dividends, but by potential. Microsoft has so much cash its literally bursting at the seams, but it has yet to issue dividends, because it feels it still has a ton of room to grow through R&D and acquisitions. Potential is what the markets is all about. If you want safe, steady, earnings, go buy yourself an annuity.
Mutual funds have less risk, so yes, on a risk/reward basis a good mutual fund is the way to go. But it just doesn't compare to the 500% return that you get from an Internet IPO.
Next, take the present value of your expected future earnings and tack it on to that figure. Basically, cook up a reasonable growth model, and divide it by the best estimates of current and future interest rates. (Its been a long while since my last finance class, so you're going to have to look it up yourself.) What you end up with should be a good approximation of what your web site is worth. Of course, nowadays, this number will probably be too small, since there is so much hype around Internet IPO's. You might need to figure in stock-market capital appreciation as well.
Try looking at some Corporate Finance/Merger & Acquisition texts, since it basically revolves around valuing and and maximizing the value of companies.
While I'm surfing away oblivious to this bug, malicious hackers who have attained knowledge of this bug are busy uploading Back Orifice on my system.
Its not a theory, its a wager. It is also a false dichotomy because is does not cover all the issues. It is not just about x and !x, there is also y and !y, and z and !z and q and p.... If I take Pascal's Wager and worship Jesus, and end up at Allah's feet after death, I am majorly screwed.
Scientific theories can be, are encourages to be and are regularly - disproven. How about philosophical theories?
Actually, God is not falsifiable because we have no terms upon which God can be proven non-existent. Since we can assign whatever attribute we want to God (like omnipotence and omniscience). We can use ad-hoc arguments such as "God works in mysterious ways", or "God does it for the greater good" to explain away any any contrary evidence.
Because the answer of "GOD" is acually a non-answer.
If I just go ahead and ask, "What caused the creation of God"? You would say, "God Just Is.(tm) He is infinite."
Then I'd say, "Well that went nowhere. I could have said the 'Universe Just Is. It is Infinite'".
We could go on into an infinite regression of entities, or we can apply Occam's Razor. What is the rational choice?
-- Albert Einstein
"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religion than it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
-- Albert Einstein
Pretty much discounts most popular religions nowadays. An impersonal god is no better explanation than no god at all.
Power to the People!
Of course not. Like you, God had to personally assemble the blocks of his "Universe Lego Mindstorm" set too. Thats the whole point of Legos.
Of course this brings up the question of God's creator and his "God Lego Mindstorm" set, and God's creator's creator and his "God's Creator Lego Mindstorm" set...
Ouch! That Occam's Razor is sharp!
Let B = Existence of Purple People Eaters
Let C = Existence of Elvis swiveling his hips on the Darkside of the Moon
Let D = Existence of SNAFOO, the all-powerful, all-knowing, who resides in a magic chocolate dimension where everything is made of chocolate.
Are you getting the point yet, or do I need to conjure some more imaginary beings for you to waffle over?
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PanDuh!
Does your school call the police whenever someone's been caught cheating?