Welcome to slashdot. MS has 3 choices, and they are damned any which way they go: a) They can not do anything, and get blamed for not keeping up. b) They can catch up, and get blamed for just doing stuff everyone else already does. c) They can "innovate" ahead of the others, and really piss everyone off.
Yep, and people like my father, who love macs but are forced to use windows, will now be able to buy macs and put windows on them for when it is necessary.
Right, so there is no CPU problem, all the complaints about Macs being slow and expensive are invalid, Motorola did NOT drop the ball at all, and Steve Jobs is on crack for thinking so as well.
I wasn't complaining about anything, just saying that they've been becoming more and more PC-like hardware-wise for a very long time, and this makes perfect sense to me.
Well, i've gone and used nALFS, from the Automated Linux From Scratch project. The LFS book actually is written in a custom XML dialect so that new nALFS images are automatically created from it. Then you just run nALFS, and voila, new system. Now to get a fully functional system with KDE etc, I spent a LOT of time getting my nALFS scripts set up, but now every month or so I just update the script (takes a couple hours), run it, and 15 hours later I'm running the lastest versions of everything! Pretty sweet if you ask me!
nah, you'll buy a mac for the same price, and it'll look the same and work the same (only faster). I don't see how a switch from powerpc to x86 is an ideological shift or anything.
Apple has been slowly transitioning from proprietary hardware for a very long time. 20 years ago the system was all SCSI/68000/3.5" floppies (when PCs were IDE/x86/5.25"). That stuff cost too much money though (economics of scale), so they switched. The only thing left was the CPU, and its been killing them.
As long as the machines are still built by apple exclusively, this'll be more-or-less transparent to the mac user.
exactly... or something like WinDVD, where the "evaluation" version is actually the full version, but locked with a code. So I suppose WinDVD is exploiting people too;)
Right now I am also doing all the LGPL requires of me. And I am doing nothing except reading slashdot and picking my nose. Is it helping the KHTML team? No it is not. Should I be praised for complying with the LGPL? No I should not. Have I benefited from KHTML? Sure have (using Konq right now). Could I/should I do more to help them? Absolutely.
I'm sorry, but... the fact that microsoft made it possible for you to steal from them makes this an example THEM EXPLOITING YOU? Huh?? I really have to stop visiting/. I think... the logic here makes me ill.
Oh yeah, gzipping REALLY takes a long time. This whole thing is such a non-issue. We NEED to get out of this whole 20th century optimize-everything strategy and start implementing "intelligent bloat" as I like to call it. Object-oriented programming, moving work load to run-time vs. compile-time, and XML data structures are all going to make life a whole lot easier now that memory and processing time are such commodities.
And you have to admit, that is what MS is (was?) trying to do with WinFS. I think Apple had the right idea back when they had both a resource and data fork, but AFAIK that was done away with in OSX.
TOTALLY.. like at the end of A.I... in Kubrick's unfilmed version he'd have done the whole end sequence without a word, but Speilburg feels the need to explain everything on screen with a pandering narration. Too bad he has to ruin good films (Shindler's List, Saving Private Ryan) with horrible pandering diatribes.
Well this might be an ideological thing. For me, don't add a feature unless it is necessary. Why does C++ allow you to do point math? Why does it allow you to look at index -1 of an array?
When they added generics to java 1.5, i asked "why", but a lot of people were asking "why not", i guess. C++ is a huge mishmash of "why not"s.
Gnome, KDE, OSX all include browsers and share their respective html rendering engines (gtkhtml, khtml, and er... khtml). Yeah, they could "access the internet" without it, but an integrated html engine sure seems like the right way to go. I just with the IE one was... you know... BETTER.
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Welcome to slashdot. MS has 3 choices, and they are damned any which way they go:
a) They can not do anything, and get blamed for not keeping up.
b) They can catch up, and get blamed for just doing stuff everyone else already does.
c) They can "innovate" ahead of the others, and really piss everyone off.
Yep, and people like my father, who love macs but are forced to use windows, will now be able to buy macs and put windows on them for when it is necessary.
JavaDoc is fantastic, I think.
yeah i totally meant objC and cocoa, but instead wrote objC++ and carbon. Which actually makes its own kind of sense, but isn't what I meant to say :)
Just another example of how our governments don't serve us anymore, their primary purpose is to serve corporate interests.
Right, so there is no CPU problem, all the complaints about Macs being slow and expensive are invalid, Motorola did NOT drop the ball at all, and Steve Jobs is on crack for thinking so as well.
grr I mean cocoa of course. it is damn early.
No one who has ever actually used Objective C++ and Carbon would actually complain about it. That has to be the nicest toolkit out there, bar none.
Helium has an advantage in that it is a lighter gas, and that makes it easier on the body for various reasons at high pressures.
I wasn't complaining about anything, just saying that they've been becoming more and more PC-like hardware-wise for a very long time, and this makes perfect sense to me.
Well, i've gone and used nALFS, from the Automated Linux From Scratch project. The LFS book actually is written in a custom XML dialect so that new nALFS images are automatically created from it. Then you just run nALFS, and voila, new system. Now to get a fully functional system with KDE etc, I spent a LOT of time getting my nALFS scripts set up, but now every month or so I just update the script (takes a couple hours), run it, and 15 hours later I'm running the lastest versions of everything! Pretty sweet if you ask me!
nah, you'll buy a mac for the same price, and it'll look the same and work the same (only faster). I don't see how a switch from powerpc to x86 is an ideological shift or anything.
Apple has been slowly transitioning from proprietary hardware for a very long time. 20 years ago the system was all SCSI/68000/3.5" floppies (when PCs were IDE/x86/5.25"). That stuff cost too much money though (economics of scale), so they switched. The only thing left was the CPU, and its been killing them.
As long as the machines are still built by apple exclusively, this'll be more-or-less transparent to the mac user.
exactly... or something like WinDVD, where the "evaluation" version is actually the full version, but locked with a code. So I suppose WinDVD is exploiting people too ;)
Ah, but those things normally happen over geological timeframes (tens of thousands of years), not decades.
okay... but please then explain the leap to how that is in fact THEM exploiting YOU.
Right now I am also doing all the LGPL requires of me. And I am doing nothing except reading slashdot and picking my nose. Is it helping the KHTML team? No it is not. Should I be praised for complying with the LGPL? No I should not. Have I benefited from KHTML? Sure have (using Konq right now). Could I/should I do more to help them? Absolutely.
I'm sorry, but... the fact that microsoft made it possible for you to steal from them makes this an example THEM EXPLOITING YOU? Huh?? I really have to stop visiting /. I think... the logic here makes me ill.
MS hasn't supported their JVM in a long time. They took it out, in fact, with XPsp1a. It is no where to be found in XPsp2.
Oh yeah, gzipping REALLY takes a long time. This whole thing is such a non-issue. We NEED to get out of this whole 20th century optimize-everything strategy and start implementing "intelligent bloat" as I like to call it. Object-oriented programming, moving work load to run-time vs. compile-time, and XML data structures are all going to make life a whole lot easier now that memory and processing time are such commodities.
And you have to admit, that is what MS is (was?) trying to do with WinFS. I think Apple had the right idea back when they had both a resource and data fork, but AFAIK that was done away with in OSX.
TOTALLY.. like at the end of A.I... in Kubrick's unfilmed version he'd have done the whole end sequence without a word, but Speilburg feels the need to explain everything on screen with a pandering narration. Too bad he has to ruin good films (Shindler's List, Saving Private Ryan) with horrible pandering diatribes.
Well this might be an ideological thing. For me, don't add a feature unless it is necessary. Why does C++ allow you to do point math? Why does it allow you to look at index -1 of an array?
When they added generics to java 1.5, i asked "why", but a lot of people were asking "why not", i guess. C++ is a huge mishmash of "why not"s.
i would say that posting a link to spin itself qualifies as spin. You disagree, apparenlty.
Gnome, KDE, OSX all include browsers and share their respective html rendering engines (gtkhtml, khtml, and er... khtml). Yeah, they could "access the internet" without it, but an integrated html engine sure seems like the right way to go. I just with the IE one was... you know... BETTER.
thanks... looks like with ever-deteriorating attention spans we now need to tell people to RTFH, let alone RTFA.