We are legally obligated to sell at a certain price. The legislature and the public utility commissions set the prices for the incumbent carriers, with no regard to the actual costs we incur.
But there are still places of the country (rural, appalachia, etc) that it's not cost-effective to run basic phone lines. Will private companies do that without some kind of government protection on their lost costs? I highly doubt it.
Yes, the big telcos have a monopoly (disclosure: i work for one) - but the "competition" that has come up, at least seen from our end, is not competition. It's companies that get to use the big Telco lines and fiber for much less than it costs to maintain them. If it was true competition, they should be laying their own lines, fiber, poles, and letting up their own services (911, etc) and not using ours. How is getting a cheap ride on someone else's assets competition?
Ok, I get the bias and all, but I'll have to diagree with the "does not require the use of propietary scripting languages". You're right, Tcl isn't propietary, but what about all those storyserver commands? And the funky SEARCH TABLE and FOREACH loops?
And the content records seem to allow you no way to escape from Vignette easily - if you have a wish to do so.
I'll admit that some of my irritation with Vignette is most likely due to a really bad implementation.
Is there anything more recent? Reviewing the use of Vignette with JSP?
I agree with all those disgruntled users of VIgnette, after all, i am one. But I don't think I've found any other CMS's that really fit our needs. I already have CMS selection burnout. and CM issue in general burnout.
We have Vignette in house, and we started to looking at Interwoven as a slightly cheaper and better solution to our requirements than Vignette. I've read flaming emails full of hatred for both products, and I'm having trouble picking out what's fact and what's not. Anybody been successful in actually evaluating and choosing a CM tool to replace one in house?
The other problem is that we already existing crappy homegrown cm tools that are poorly architected and store the content in the worst ways.
I've been trapped on this project (replacing existing cm tools) for the last year and a half. talk about nightmare.
The only thing i've learned is that there is no good solution for content management right now. Nobody knows what they really want out of it. and don't even think about trying to do content management for a large enterprise without upper management support. You'll end up screwed.
Thus endeth my small rant. Anybody have similar experiences?
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We are legally obligated to sell at a certain price. The legislature and the public utility commissions set the prices for the incumbent carriers, with no regard to the actual costs we incur.
But there are still places of the country (rural, appalachia, etc) that it's not cost-effective to run basic phone lines. Will private companies do that without some kind of government protection on their lost costs? I highly doubt it. Yes, the big telcos have a monopoly (disclosure: i work for one) - but the "competition" that has come up, at least seen from our end, is not competition. It's companies that get to use the big Telco lines and fiber for much less than it costs to maintain them. If it was true competition, they should be laying their own lines, fiber, poles, and letting up their own services (911, etc) and not using ours. How is getting a cheap ride on someone else's assets competition?
Ok, I get the bias and all, but I'll have to diagree with the "does not require the use of propietary scripting languages". You're right, Tcl isn't propietary, but what about all those storyserver commands? And the funky SEARCH TABLE and FOREACH loops? And the content records seem to allow you no way to escape from Vignette easily - if you have a wish to do so. I'll admit that some of my irritation with Vignette is most likely due to a really bad implementation.
Is there anything more recent? Reviewing the use of Vignette with JSP? I agree with all those disgruntled users of VIgnette, after all, i am one. But I don't think I've found any other CMS's that really fit our needs. I already have CMS selection burnout. and CM issue in general burnout.
We have Vignette in house, and we started to looking at Interwoven as a slightly cheaper and better solution to our requirements than Vignette. I've read flaming emails full of hatred for both products, and I'm having trouble picking out what's fact and what's not. Anybody been successful in actually evaluating and choosing a CM tool to replace one in house? The other problem is that we already existing crappy homegrown cm tools that are poorly architected and store the content in the worst ways. I've been trapped on this project (replacing existing cm tools) for the last year and a half. talk about nightmare. The only thing i've learned is that there is no good solution for content management right now. Nobody knows what they really want out of it. and don't even think about trying to do content management for a large enterprise without upper management support. You'll end up screwed. Thus endeth my small rant. Anybody have similar experiences?