Well what you guys need to realize is that the people who are drawing similarities between hidden fortress and SW are not only talking about plot structure and charecters. If you analyze the lighting, camera movement, editing etc.. in the films, there eerily similar, along with the two peasants (r2d2 and c3po)and the toshiro mifune charecter (hybrid of luke and han) I dont see how you can say that they AREN'T extremely similar. But, to people who don't study film,its really difficult to understand how these films are similar.
Yes but that was kurosawas goal, to recreate macbeth, he didnt say it was an "influence" on the film like lucas has said about kurosawas films, Kurosawa has said Throne of Blood IS macbeth. The point im trying to make is that lucas takes kurosawas ideas and techniques and tries to plagarize them, where kurosawa gives credit to where it's needed.
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influenced is going easy on him, he more or less ripped off kurosawa's movies. Same Editing techniques, same composition, and an eerily familiar plot structure that combines hidden fortress, roshamon, seven samurai and any other pre 1970 Kurosawa film. Lucas tends to downplay this by saying "influenced". But this kind of stuff really only seems to matter to film buffs and film majors. I just don't like how Lucas is considered to be one of the "great directors" when all he does is copy movies that were made 20 years prior. I take star wars for what star wars is, a updated version and mutation of kurosawas films of the 50's and 60's. Albeit a "last man standing" of the sci-fi genre =).
hehe bruckheimer is a producer, he provides money, he doesnt direct or make movies! I swear that guy is always confused as being a director all because of that dumb splash logo he has on allt he films he contributes money for.
lol saaz, we posted about the same thing at the same time:)
Ever notice how the peasants in Hidden Fortress are basically R2D2 and C3PO? Its amazing how similar they are.
setting the story aside, anyone ever notice the similarities between the star wars films and Akira Kurosawa's samurai films? IMO star wars is a blatant ripoff of roshamon and the hidden fortress, Lucas even tried to get toshiro mifune to be in star wars as obi-wan kenobi. Just another example of how george lucas really does suck as a writer/director. Only thing he seems to be good at is franchising and creating hype around a series of movies that were made 20 years prior.
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Well what you guys need to realize is that the people who are drawing similarities between hidden fortress and SW are not only talking about plot structure and charecters. If you analyze the lighting, camera movement, editing etc.. in the films, there eerily similar, along with the two peasants (r2d2 and c3po)and the toshiro mifune charecter (hybrid of luke and han) I dont see how you can say that they AREN'T extremely similar. But, to people who don't study film,its really difficult to understand how these films are similar.
Yes but that was kurosawas goal, to recreate macbeth, he didnt say it was an "influence" on the film like lucas has said about kurosawas films, Kurosawa has said Throne of Blood IS macbeth. The point im trying to make is that lucas takes kurosawas ideas and techniques and tries to plagarize them, where kurosawa gives credit to where it's needed.
influenced is going easy on him, he more or less ripped off kurosawa's movies. Same Editing techniques, same composition, and an eerily familiar plot structure that combines hidden fortress, roshamon, seven samurai and any other pre 1970 Kurosawa film. Lucas tends to downplay this by saying "influenced". But this kind of stuff really only seems to matter to film buffs and film majors. I just don't like how Lucas is considered to be one of the "great directors" when all he does is copy movies that were made 20 years prior. I take star wars for what star wars is, a updated version and mutation of kurosawas films of the 50's and 60's. Albeit a "last man standing" of the sci-fi genre =).
hehe bruckheimer is a producer, he provides money, he doesnt direct or make movies! I swear that guy is always confused as being a director all because of that dumb splash logo he has on allt he films he contributes money for.
lol saaz, we posted about the same thing at the same time :)
Ever notice how the peasants in Hidden Fortress are basically R2D2 and C3PO? Its amazing how similar they are.
setting the story aside, anyone ever notice the similarities between the star wars films and Akira Kurosawa's samurai films? IMO star wars is a blatant ripoff of roshamon and the hidden fortress, Lucas even tried to get toshiro mifune to be in star wars as obi-wan kenobi. Just another example of how george lucas really does suck as a writer/director. Only thing he seems to be good at is franchising and creating hype around a series of movies that were made 20 years prior.