To believe that criminals use their software is Microsoft's perogative. Do you think you fall in that category?
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Sadly, I think anyone who has access to your email account whether it be Hotmail, NY Times, or your personal ISP needs to be scrutinized in that case.
I think the paranoia surrounding MS is quite unfounded. Your opinion seems to vary, but I challenge you to come up with instances of MS using private information (that was not made public to them via some disgruntled employee) that they have acted upon.
Regardless of your personal opinion (which I can understand fully), most books that make it to the best seller list of their respective genre are well written and usually accessible to all readers. That Goodkind is a dufus and that his fans are dufus-enablers is just an exception to the rule.
Most good writing is well known and well received. Oprah's book club is the perpetual exception to the rule.
I think you hit the nail on the head, as far as Microsoft's motives go. They don't like the "Microsoft Windows Hole Allows Hackers Full Access to Sensitive Records" headlines as much as anyone. If they can update the systems remotely to avoid such idiotic viruses as Code Red, then this change will be worth it, in their eyes.
The problem of security is important to everyone, but not everyone is paying attention as closely as necessary. Perhaps it is the Windows paradigm of ease before functionality that has engendered this mentality, but many Windows sysadmins are simply not preoccupied with security as they ought to be.
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Having actual experience with the evil empire, I can say that without a doubt they would not resort to spam. Unless the spam comes in one of those orange links (like MSN HomeCentral or whatever the hell they call it), they are not behind the spam.
I could see a couple of jokers that I know sending those Nigerian bank account scam emails, but I don't see anyone in the company sending advertising spam (other than the aforementioned orange link spams)
You forgot that there are some other folks who don't want M$ poking around too --- anybody who could be working on any product that could compete with any component of the M$ fiefdom for example.
Haha. If the product ever becomes big enough to be noticeable, it will be incorporated and the company will be put out of business. Who are you kidding?
Cool, can I come over and look at your checking account statements -- why would you want to hide them -- I promise I won't access your accounts
Sure. I haven't had visitors in a while. You figure out how to come to my house, I'll turn over my bank records.
Can I have someone come on over an catalog your CD collection and then sell the list under the table to Columbia House record scammers?
As long as you can find a way to do it from outside my front door, sure.
I flash back to the 30's, see the Nazi flag rising
Now that's not fair. Invoking Godwin at this stage isn't very sporting.
why should it be legal for a required patch to have an EULA that can remove some of my rights to a previously purchased software whose EULA I agreed to ?
Good question. Isn't this the main impetus behind adopting "Free" software?
But then again, the GPL also states that any software so licensed is bound to any future revisions of the GPL.
It isn't the fact that you've got MP3's on your HD that makes any difference.
It's simply the defensive mentality of criminals that is what my comment is about. If you are doing something wrong (stealing music, stealing software), then, sure, you'll feel MS is out to get you. Otherwise, you'll realize that MS has no beef and is simply making empty threats.
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It's a real bummer. I got hold of a musk melon from the wife's parents the other week and had myself a slice while she was asleep.
I managed to come away from the experience with only a constricted throat and full body hives for an evening.
I haven't told anyone yet because I hope to get another melon soon. God, the pain is so worth it.
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I guess it would be interesting to send Microsoft a notice of the meaning of their EULA that they haven't already thought of. Hubris knows no bounds, I always say.
Do you think that your data files are of any interest to Microsoft? Do you truly believe they are systematically uploading your data files and perusing them for any anti-Microsoft messages hidden therein?
Do you really think that Microsoft is going to delete all of those files?
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Most people just click OK and are done with it. Microsoft never comes to pick up their first-born. The users just go about their business making money with Windows.
It's really only the people who are afraid of having their warez/MP3 collection deleted or who are pirating Windows itself that are afraid of these remarks in the EULA. Most users are not worried about those things because they have nothing to hide.
It doesn't make sense to filter out the entire BSD section because I think one story was a piece of shit. There are so many stories on the BSD back page that are much more interesting than this dreck that I find it hard to believe this article was ever accepted, much less to the main page.
If you continue to believe that a newsletter's release, monthly apparently, is newworthy, that's your perogative. I maintain that newsletter publications are not newsworthy, much less front page material.
Let's not digress from the main point which is that this article is only news to those people who think it's news that the sun rises every day. If you think it's important that newsletters be announced every time they are published, that's fine. Just keep that crap off the main page.
It isn't the stories. It's the blatant advertising that goes on here at Slashdot for O'Reilly. These stories used to be posted by Lisa@oreilly.net, but now others have taken her place at posting these stories to/.
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Not an OS solution. Linux is peripheral to the whole article.
Liar... Thanks.
Anyway, the relicensing capability of licensees allows them to choose later versions of the GPL that the original author never accepted.
Or do you think Linus altered the license for no reason at all?
To believe that criminals use their software is Microsoft's perogative. Do you think you fall in that category?
Sadly, I think anyone who has access to your email account whether it be Hotmail, NY Times, or your personal ISP needs to be scrutinized in that case.
I think the paranoia surrounding MS is quite unfounded. Your opinion seems to vary, but I challenge you to come up with instances of MS using private information (that was not made public to them via some disgruntled employee) that they have acted upon.
Heh.
Regardless of your personal opinion (which I can understand fully), most books that make it to the best seller list of their respective genre are well written and usually accessible to all readers. That Goodkind is a dufus and that his fans are dufus-enablers is just an exception to the rule.
Most good writing is well known and well received. Oprah's book club is the perpetual exception to the rule.
It brings high-sellers down and it boosts low-sellers up.
Yep.
Annual, but that's neither here nor there.
Wait two minutes...
I think you hit the nail on the head, as far as Microsoft's motives go. They don't like the "Microsoft Windows Hole Allows Hackers Full Access to Sensitive Records" headlines as much as anyone. If they can update the systems remotely to avoid such idiotic viruses as Code Red, then this change will be worth it, in their eyes.
The problem of security is important to everyone, but not everyone is paying attention as closely as necessary. Perhaps it is the Windows paradigm of ease before functionality that has engendered this mentality, but many Windows sysadmins are simply not preoccupied with security as they ought to be.
Having actual experience with the evil empire, I can say that without a doubt they would not resort to spam. Unless the spam comes in one of those orange links (like MSN HomeCentral or whatever the hell they call it), they are not behind the spam.
I could see a couple of jokers that I know sending those Nigerian bank account scam emails, but I don't see anyone in the company sending advertising spam (other than the aforementioned orange link spams)
You forgot that there are some other folks who don't want M$ poking around too --- anybody who could be working on any product that could compete with any component of the M$ fiefdom for example.
Haha. If the product ever becomes big enough to be noticeable, it will be incorporated and the company will be put out of business. Who are you kidding?
Cool, can I come over and look at your checking account statements -- why would you want to hide them -- I promise I won't access your accounts
Sure. I haven't had visitors in a while. You figure out how to come to my house, I'll turn over my bank records.
Can I have someone come on over an catalog your CD collection and then sell the list under the table to Columbia House record scammers?
As long as you can find a way to do it from outside my front door, sure.
I flash back to the 30's, see the Nazi flag rising
Now that's not fair. Invoking Godwin at this stage isn't very sporting.
why should it be legal for a required patch to have an EULA that can remove some of my rights to a previously purchased software whose EULA I agreed to ?
Good question. Isn't this the main impetus behind adopting "Free" software?
But then again, the GPL also states that any software so licensed is bound to any future revisions of the GPL.
I was at all interested in hack David Weber's stories...
I doubt it will hurt his sales very much. It isn't like he's a huge name in sci-fi.
File sharing seems to have a leveling effect. It brings high-sellers down and it boosts low-sellers up.
Say what you will about popular music, but in the literary world, a high ranking usually equates with talent. Low ranking usually means the opposite.
I've been IP banned, so this may not show up.
It isn't the fact that you've got MP3's on your HD that makes any difference.
It's simply the defensive mentality of criminals that is what my comment is about. If you are doing something wrong (stealing music, stealing software), then, sure, you'll feel MS is out to get you. Otherwise, you'll realize that MS has no beef and is simply making empty threats.
It's a real bummer. I got hold of a musk melon from the wife's parents the other week and had myself a slice while she was asleep.
I managed to come away from the experience with only a constricted throat and full body hives for an evening.
I haven't told anyone yet because I hope to get another melon soon. God, the pain is so worth it.
I guess it would be interesting to send Microsoft a notice of the meaning of their EULA that they haven't already thought of. Hubris knows no bounds, I always say.
Do you think that your data files are of any interest to Microsoft? Do you truly believe they are systematically uploading your data files and perusing them for any anti-Microsoft messages hidden therein?
And you think there's a way to delete MP3 players? You give Microsoft way too much credit, my friend.
Nope, nothing to hide. Come and find it, brother.
It's okay. I'm pretty drunk as it is. :-)
Obvious Guy:
Name: Last Guy;
First Obvious;
Known diseases:
Asthmatic as a child, no signs of asthma in adulthood;
Allergies:
Some mushrooms;
Fleshy melons - honeydew, canteloupe, etc. (cucumber, watermelon, squashes fine)
Sincerely,
Obvious Guy
I hope you apply as secure a lock to your data as you do your house.
For the millions of PC users who exists, only a small fraction of them have any data that anyone gives two cents about.
Moral: use the right lock for the job.
Do you really think that Microsoft is going to delete all of those files?
Most people just click OK and are done with it. Microsoft never comes to pick up their first-born. The users just go about their business making money with Windows.
It's really only the people who are afraid of having their warez/MP3 collection deleted or who are pirating Windows itself that are afraid of these remarks in the EULA. Most users are not worried about those things because they have nothing to hide.
It doesn't make sense to filter out the entire BSD section because I think one story was a piece of shit. There are so many stories on the BSD back page that are much more interesting than this dreck that I find it hard to believe this article was ever accepted, much less to the main page.
If you continue to believe that a newsletter's release, monthly apparently, is newworthy, that's your perogative. I maintain that newsletter publications are not newsworthy, much less front page material.
linux-infatuated kiddies like yourself
Whoa whoa whoa. There's no need for name calling.
Let's not digress from the main point which is that this article is only news to those people who think it's news that the sun rises every day. If you think it's important that newsletters be announced every time they are published, that's fine. Just keep that crap off the main page.
It isn't the stories. It's the blatant advertising that goes on here at Slashdot for O'Reilly. These stories used to be posted by Lisa@oreilly.net, but now others have taken her place at posting these stories to /.