So this is an attempt at a heckler's veto? How do Austrians feel about hecklers attempting to sdestroy their freedoms?
Afaik, it's not supposed to be permitted by the US Supreme court, but sometimes it happens --such as with the heckler's veto that won the day in the case of Âanta Monic Holiday displays.
But you have to expect some level of 'least resistance' from some politicians. So the Heckler's veto CAN win the day. Sometimes. Even if illegal.
Let me posit a possible mechanism, taking this a step farther. The solar wind we experience consists of charged plasma being driven outwards, away from the sun. Now, that plasma consists of electrons and protons.
Likewise, the comet atmosphere -- stretched out thin to the front and back -- strikes the solar wind at hypersonic speeds, and ionizes. It, too, has electrons and protons. The electrons, being of light mass, get driven back with the solar wind almost immediately. The protons don't.
Likewise, the solar wind's electrons get driven back, to follow the comet plasma. The protons don't.
At this point, you have a collision of protons against protons, but not a striking collions, but a magnetic collision. create one magnetic field; the solar wind creates an opposite magnetic field. These work together to decelerate the relative velocity. But half of that mass involves accelerating solar wind.
Moreover, the magnetic field will act at the speed of light, preceeding the comet atmosphere's actual entry.
Thus, the entry of the comet should drive out a CME to meet the comet.
Note that the CME is no worse than the two streams of solar wind that the Earth passes through regularly. The plasma density is extremely low: that is one comet's mass of CME spread out over 4*Pi*(1 AU)^2. In area, and a significant fraction of an ÃU in thickness.
No, you're imagining the edge of the sun (!?!) as being the edge of visible gases. In terms of the sun as a single electromagnetic plasma unit, the sun is much larger than that; the comet was already in the sun.
As the water evaporates off the comet, and then ionizes, it is going to disrupt the magnetic fields of the plasma streaming out of the sun. That, in turn, is going to cause a response. The response will attempt to restore the magnetic energy to neutral. Conservation of momentum, then, is likely to cause exactly the response you see.
But don't take my word for it. Go back, and look at the graphs of the sun every single time we can record a cometfall. Now, find the number of CMEs of similar order of magnitude (nothing smaller than 1/10 the size) that occur each year. Then, taking the same "t seconds before impact" as your zero, calculate the probability of the CME being coincidence, vs. the probability of it being causally related.
Could we come off yhe coincidental ti@ing bit, already? How many times do we need to see this "coincidence", of a comet diving into the sun, followed by an instaneous CME, to at least calculate the probability of CMEs being caused by comets vs not caused by comets?
Then, armed with that info, to posit that the hydrogen gas, being ionized, or perhaps the rotational momentum, or perhaps another conservation law, requires this, and deduce the mechanism?
No, IIRC Gandhi said you reason with a man; you don't reason with a tiger. You shoot a tiger. Thus he would not have used civil disobedience with the Germans. Our Heros (*) are far more tiger than man.
But here, the tiger has all the firepower. So that one's out too.
I'm still open to suggestions, but my idea is to get in aboat and wait it out..
Forget moneyed interests. Money is just a version of power.
And get it through your head that regardless of form, the powerlees are not going to use power to take power from the powerful.
It doesn't have to be moneyed interests. It could be the CIA using George HW Bush to overthrow Carter's October surprise in an act of high treason, in revenge for shaking up the CIA. It could be the Russian mafia masters using their spies to compromise NSA leaders, and use them to compromise politicans, and seize contol. It could be the masterminds behind the Nazi regime trying again through means of an occult Yale club.
It could be anything, including moneyed interests. But that's less important than the fact of where are we today?
And where we are today is a very bad place to be. The economy deliberately overthrown; the King Of Terror having us in two wars, The rule of law vanished, reporters suddenly dying in weird ways, and those who talk about doing something wanting to take us into an even worse place. Because you can't just commit a few attrocities and seize power and restore goodnes and call it a day.
There is no way back from here. I don't know what through is, or where it goes, but through is the only way.
Yes, my mother had him pegged as a liberal back in92. Bush is indistinguishable from his brother, except for skin color, and drug of choice, and ever from his other brother Clinton, except for things blowing up far more. Cheney? Worse. a puppeteer.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,and the Word WAS God... and We knew Him, and he was filled with grace and glory...
Yes, I worship the Logos of God. I worship the Bible, and the Eucharist, and the Creator of all that is.
I worship the Spirit of love between the Creator and the Creator's logos.
And worship is the right word: I do everything I can (He might say more or less) to order my life according to the Logos of God, including attempting to obey Him.
The Larouche wachos may be right after all; jok's on me: the bankers did have it in for us; the two countries are the same; and the solution is to bleed the country dry by consuming as many gov't services as possible. wow.
My thought was, "ten billion? All that money for corporations that enslave us, whose next move will be.e. To enslave us? Someone give Haliburton a call."
Let me add that Mebendazole WAS OTC before it was discontinued. As of the time it was discontinued, it requred a prescription because it had to be compounded at the sleazy / less safe compounding pharmaciesthat were legal, but making illegal substitutions. However, those are now being shut down...
Basically, in support of their IP, the pharmacy companies got laws passed banning parallel imports. Now, they have every incentive to discontinue safe, cheap, effective, OTC drugs with expired patents, in favor of forcing people to buy dangerous, less effective high profit drugs. Which they do.
All of which speaks to the First Post of this story.
Killing off parasites is in everyone's interest? Then why was mebendazole discontinued in the US, which is practically mandatory before pre-surgical steroids, and the law now prohibits individuals from importing the super-cheap, anti-cancer non-toxic dewormer from Canada or any other 1st, 2nd, or 3rd world nation?
Having been there, I can absolutely say that it IS NOT fair to attach strings. Not having strings is critical to the person, who is worse off than the average joe, being able to maneuver through the NEXT hurdle life is going to throw at him.
I'll go so far as to say that charity with strings is solely for the benefit of the giver, and is not charity at all.
That said, charity of limited scope, but without strings, can be quite beneficial, but is still i\stitutionalized, which does make it less personal.
No, your problem is more that you have no say on when and how the charity is given, but you would if you gave it yourself, instead of hoping that somebody else, the government even, would take that responsibility from you
Oh, and if you didn't vote, you have no rightto complain. And if you _oted and your candidate one, what ar. You complaining for? It's your own fault. And if you voted
Oh, one other thing: as long as there are is jihad, the jihadists will want to kill us. As long as there are islamists there will be jihadists; and as long as Islam allows four wives per man, there will be zones where men must do without wives, and the local powers that be will be faced with a choice: direct the rage outwards through islamism, or face the rage themselves. Thus, there will be islamists.
And yes, there can be other cults just as bad in this aspect; but islam is the one we see today. Tomorrow we may see the same rage from one-child countries that specialized in males.
And yes, war really does destroy the Earth much faster and more devastatingly than overpopulation.
I agree partly with your post: populations much lower than ours have completely destroyedenvironments due to political greed, anti-distributionism, and such. Thus population reduction is not an answer.
But we have a "how do we get there from here" problem with solving the distribution. No offense, but your theorem sounds like Karl Marx's answer, and he missed a huge point: that distribution tends to follow a gaussian curve, and therefore is a thing of entropy, and is as rock solid a problem as you are going to see.
Which is not to say that population controls are a solution: population controls are another aspect of distribution, and themselves cause wars and vionlence and environmental degradation (China, anyone? Beijing smog?).
The problem is more one of how to flatten out the Gaussian curve, then not how to eliminate it.
Actually,I think that you'll find that that equation is theoretical, not empirical. People are most productive when they are in an emergency, and yet have resources.
So no matter how smart Americans may or may not be, we have almost no productivity . At the top, there is no emergency. At the bottom, no resources.
I suspect that it isn't just degradation, but also a disconnect between the mitchondria and the rest of the cell, using the cell to be, well,allergic to itself per se.
Which then results in the animal growing overlarge in many cases. Such things may well not be resolved in following generations.
But genetic damage does seem to have a high rate of giantism. I'd say that if they want to list cloned animals, therefore, they need to mark it cloned, genetic percent thereof, and genetic percent in matrilineal / patrilineal line.
That way, if it lates turns out that cloning was a disaster, the line of horses #might# stand a chance of recovering.
suppose you take your best pseudo-random generated number, and xoror seed it with a word made by stringer together the second-lowest bit each from the temperature gauge, the gps-x the gps-y,the compass, the ping time, and so on?
Would that #increase# or #decrease# the entropy on the random number generator?
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So this is an attempt at a heckler's veto? How do Austrians feel about hecklers attempting to sdestroy their freedoms?
Afaik, it's not supposed to be permitted by the US Supreme court, but sometimes it happens --such as with the heckler's veto that won the day in the case of Âanta Monic Holiday displays.
But you have to expect some level of 'least resistance' from some politicians. So the Heckler's veto CAN win the day. Sometimes. Even if illegal.
Let me posit a possible mechanism, taking this a step farther. The solar wind we experience consists of charged plasma being driven outwards, away from the sun. Now, that plasma consists of electrons and protons.
Likewise, the comet atmosphere -- stretched out thin to the front and back -- strikes the solar wind at hypersonic speeds, and ionizes. It, too, has electrons and protons. The electrons, being of light mass, get driven back with the solar wind almost immediately. The protons don't.
Likewise, the solar wind's electrons get driven back, to follow the comet plasma. The protons don't.
At this point, you have a collision of protons against protons, but not a striking collions, but a magnetic collision. create one magnetic field; the solar wind creates an opposite magnetic field. These work together to decelerate the relative velocity. But half of that mass involves accelerating solar wind.
Moreover, the magnetic field will act at the speed of light, preceeding the comet atmosphere's actual entry.
Thus, the entry of the comet should drive out a CME to meet the comet.
Note that the CME is no worse than the two streams of solar wind that the Earth passes through regularly. The plasma density is extremely low: that is one comet's mass of CME spread out over 4*Pi*(1 AU)^2. In area, and a significant fraction of an ÃU in thickness.
No, you're imagining the edge of the sun (!?!) as being the edge of visible gases. In terms of the sun as a single electromagnetic plasma unit, the sun is much larger than that; the comet was already in the sun.
As the water evaporates off the comet, and then ionizes, it is going to disrupt the magnetic fields of the plasma streaming out of the sun. That, in turn, is going to cause a response. The response will attempt to restore the magnetic energy to neutral. Conservation of momentum, then, is likely to cause exactly the response you see.
But don't take my word for it. Go back, and look at the graphs of the sun every single time we can record a cometfall. Now, find the number of CMEs of similar order of magnitude (nothing smaller than 1/10 the size) that occur each year. Then, taking the same "t seconds before impact" as your zero, calculate the probability of the CME being coincidence, vs. the probability of it being causally related.
Could we come off yhe coincidental ti@ing bit, already? How many times do we need to see this "coincidence", of a comet diving into the sun, followed by an instaneous CME, to at least calculate the probability of CMEs being caused by comets vs not caused by comets?
Then, armed with that info, to posit that the hydrogen gas, being ionized, or perhaps the rotational momentum, or perhaps another conservation law, requires this, and deduce the mechanism?
No, IIRC Gandhi said you reason with a man; you don't reason with a tiger. You shoot a tiger. Thus he would not have used civil disobedience with the Germans. Our Heros (*) are far more tiger than man.
But here, the tiger has all the firepower. So that one's out too.
I'm still open to suggestions, but my idea is to get in aboat and wait it out..
Forget moneyed interests. Money is just a version of power.
And get it through your head that regardless of form, the powerlees are not going to use power to take power from the powerful.
It doesn't have to be moneyed interests. It could be the CIA using George HW Bush to overthrow Carter's October surprise in an act of high treason, in revenge for shaking up the CIA. It could be the Russian mafia masters using their spies to compromise NSA leaders, and use them to compromise politicans, and seize contol. It could be the masterminds behind the Nazi regime trying again through means of an occult Yale club.
It could be anything, including moneyed interests. But that's less important than the fact of where are we today?
And where we are today is a very bad place to be. The economy deliberately overthrown; the King Of Terror having us in two wars, The rule of law vanished, reporters suddenly dying in weird ways, and those who talk about doing something wanting to take us into an even worse place. Because you can't just commit a few attrocities and seize power and restore goodnes and call it a day.
There is no way back from here. I don't know what through is, or where it goes, but through is the only way.
Yes, my mother had him pegged as a liberal back in92. Bush is indistinguishable from his brother, except for skin color, and drug of choice, and ever from his other brother Clinton, except for things blowing up far more. Cheney? Worse. a puppeteer.
Hindmost.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,and the Word WAS God... and We knew Him, and he was filled with grace and glory...
Yes, I worship the Logos of God. I worship the Bible, and the Eucharist, and the Creator of all that is.
I worship the Spirit of love between the Creator and the Creator's logos.
And worship is the right word: I do everything I can (He might say more or less) to order my life according to the Logos of God, including attempting to obey Him.
Because John Browne had ten little, nine little, eight little indians, as will any overly impatient reformer.
After which, John Browne lies a'moulderin in his grave.
The Larouche wachos may be right after all; jok's on me: the bankers did have it in for us; the two countries are the same; and the solution is to bleed the country dry by consuming as many gov't services as possible. wow.
That comes under :
Home of the brave (*)
#snort# #ugh-phptt# gah gak #thwip# #snrgle# #cmhmm#...
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My thought was, "ten billion? All that money for corporations that enslave us, whose next move will be.e. To enslave us? Someone give Haliburton a call."
Let me add that Mebendazole WAS OTC before it was discontinued. As of the time it was discontinued, it requred a prescription because it had to be compounded at the sleazy / less safe compounding pharmaciesthat were legal, but making illegal substitutions. However, those are now being shut down...
Google Mebendazole discontinued: I get this
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread822776/pg1
For information on it being made illegal,
http://www.elderlawanswers.com/buying-prescription-drugs-from-canada-legal-or-illegal-1204
Basically, in support of their IP, the pharmacy companies got laws passed banning parallel imports. Now, they have every incentive to discontinue safe, cheap, effective, OTC drugs with expired patents, in favor of forcing people to buy dangerous, less effective high profit drugs. Which they do.
All of which speaks to the First Post of this story.
Killing off parasites is in everyone's interest? Then why was mebendazole discontinued in the US, which is practically mandatory before pre-surgical steroids, and the law now prohibits individuals from importing the super-cheap, anti-cancer non-toxic dewormer from Canada or any other 1st, 2nd, or 3rd world nation?
Having been there, I can absolutely say that it IS NOT fair to attach strings. Not having strings is critical to the person, who is worse off than the average joe, being able to maneuver through the NEXT hurdle life is going to throw at him.
I'll go so far as to say that charity with strings is solely for the benefit of the giver, and is not charity at all.
That said, charity of limited scope, but without strings, can be quite beneficial, but is still i\stitutionalized, which does make it less personal.
No, your problem is more that you have no say on when and how the charity is given, but you would if you gave it yourself, instead of hoping that somebody else, the government even, would take that responsibility from you
(...after being rudely interrupted by a cell phone burp) and if you voted and lost, you can't complain, you pays yor doller and takes yer chances.
Point being, I refuse to achnowledge responsibility for the power of those who destroy us. I never had any say in the matter.
...And you just described our voting system.
Oh, and if you didn't vote, you have no rightto complain. And if you _oted and your candidate one, what ar. You complaining for? It's your own fault. And if you voted
Oh, one other thing: as long as there are is jihad, the jihadists will want to kill us. As long as there are islamists there will be jihadists; and as long as Islam allows four wives per man, there will be zones where men must do without wives, and the local powers that be will be faced with a choice: direct the rage outwards through islamism, or face the rage themselves. Thus, there will be islamists.
And yes, there can be other cults just as bad in this aspect; but islam is the one we see today. Tomorrow we may see the same rage from one-child countries that specialized in males.
And yes, war really does destroy the Earth much faster and more devastatingly than overpopulation.
I agree partly with your post: populations much lower than ours have completely destroyedenvironments due to political greed, anti-distributionism, and such. Thus population reduction is not an answer.
But we have a "how do we get there from here" problem with solving the distribution. No offense, but your theorem sounds like Karl Marx's answer, and he missed a huge point: that distribution tends to follow a gaussian curve, and therefore is a thing of entropy, and is as rock solid a problem as you are going to see.
Which is not to say that population controls are a solution: population controls are another aspect of distribution, and themselves cause wars and vionlence and environmental degradation (China, anyone? Beijing smog?).
The problem is more one of how to flatten out the Gaussian curve, then not how to eliminate it.
Actually,I think that you'll find that that equation is theoretical, not empirical. People are most productive when they are in an emergency, and yet have resources.
So no matter how smart Americans may or may not be, we have almost no productivity . At the top, there is no emergency. At the bottom, no resources.
Aging is the cure, not the disease.
Greed and theft are diseases. Treat them as such.
I suspect that it isn't just degradation, but also a disconnect between the mitchondria and the rest of the cell, using the cell to be, well,allergic to itself per se.
Which then results in the animal growing overlarge in many cases. Such things may well not be resolved in following generations.
But genetic damage does seem to have a high rate of giantism. I'd say that if they want to list cloned animals, therefore, they need to mark it cloned, genetic percent thereof, and genetic percent in matrilineal / patrilineal line.
That way, if it lates turns out that cloning was a disaster, the line of horses #might# stand a chance of recovering.
Question: would it be correct or incorrect to...
suppose you take your best pseudo-random generated number, and xoror seed it with a word made by stringer together the second-lowest bit each from the temperature gauge, the gps-x the gps-y ,the compass, the ping time, and so on?
Would that #increase# or #decrease# the entropy on the random number generator?