I have an idea... why not have the entire of the SCO management killed?
Hunting vermin out of season is illegal, and it wouldn't change anything, anyway. There are plenty of other CEO rats just waiting for a chance to jump in and pillage yet another company. This is all about the stock options. Anything that makes the stock price go up makes the CEO's options worth a lot of money.
Asuming that, as The Register put it, "SCO is Redmond's beard", remember that Microsoft's ultimate legal wet dream would be an all-the-way-to-the-supreme-court challenge to the validity of the GPL.
While I generally don't respond to AC posts, there is no reason to mod that "Funny". Which single company in the whole world would benefit most by having the legitimacy of Linux tied up for years in the legal system? It's not SCO. The AC is right.
And actually you were the first to start insults - I only started the vulgarity.
So on top of your other problems, you suffer from a very short memory.
Here is my response to your original post and your reply. It seems pretty clear who was throwing insults. All I did was post two sentences of truth from a resident's perspective, no insult involved.
I'm rather happy with myself and my intelligence . ..
It's nice to see that you're pleased by the small things in life.:) NOW, I'm being insulting, just so you can tell the difference.
I'd suggest you grow a sense of humor, but I know there's no chance of success there.
And after all my +5 Funny posts, gee, that hurts. Perhaps it's you who needs to figure out how to post something that's humorous.
When you see my suicide on the 6 o'clock news, you'll know you're responsible.
Will there be film at Eleven? I'll stay up to watch.
I'm amazed you've continued to respond this long.
Me, too. The minutes I've wasted on your ravings, circular arguments, and meanderings are truly that -- wasted. See you around.
See, your problem is you're too uptight to see that vulgarity is a verbal tool, just like any other. Considering how stilted you are, and your reaction to my littany, I was fully correct and justified.
Having a little problem rationalizing your behavior, are you? First you go out of your way to crudely insult me, then you whine that I've insulted your intelligence, and finally you proclaim your foul-mouthed ravings were proper anyway. Maybe in your world, but I don't know any educated people who automatically resort to foul language when arguing a point. Mindless profanity is a tool? Sure, the same way a broken wrench is a tool. I've noticed your most recent replies haven't needed that "tool" at all.
I only mention that because as soon as someone confuses you with insults and you find yourself devoid of any creative return, you bring up your intelligence. I bet you've even applied to Mensa - though I suspect you didn't get in the first time at least, did you?
You call
this creative? I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but you are not the first person to spew garbage like that. You are no George Carlin; your usage is not funny, and you have nothing new to add to the genre. I never brought up my intelligence as a subject, just yours. And I never applied for membership in Mensa. Organizations like that are for insecure people who need crutches, like you. BTW, welcome to my freaks list. You're in good company -- smut peddlers and such. Enjoy.:)
Its a fine line and MS has done a fairly good job given the size of their code base and the pressure on them from the comsumer to get new products out in a timely way.
Whoa, there. Since when is it the consumer who is pressuring MS for new products? It seems to me that it's MS who has been rushing new "features" into production and pressuring consumers to upgrade. I don't know of anyone who had a burning desire to upgrade to Word 2K or Windows XP. The fact that others were upgrading and causing compatibility problems was the compelling reason.
For what it's worth, you always know you've won a batle of wits when someone insults your intelligence.
No, I always know I've won a battle of wits when someone responds with a slobbering rant full of four-letter words like yours. Considering your language, I think "ignorant" was an apt description, and it was not intended to be a joke.
Aw, now you've done it. Your highly intelligent and witty comeback really hurt my feelings.:) Is it a problem to have such a limited vocabulary and imagination, or are you even aware of it?
I really don't give a fuck where you live, so I think you have disinterest confused with stupidity. And what kind of paranoid, tinfoil-hat-wearing dildo thinks the rest of slashdot is out grinding axes on them? Face it, you know nothing about a state in which you lived. That's pathetic. Twat.
I know a lot about about Colorado - I lived there for many years. I think we need a new moderation category, -1 Ignorant, for posters like you.
And you seem to know less about your home state than I do! As quoted from someone else who responded to your stupidity,
It's not my home state, you moron, although I've lived there. And at least I'm not stupid enough to cite a slashdot poster with an axe to grind as an authority. Twit.
So I am going to have to assume that either you haven't been to the state in years or that you are just trolling.
Bzzzt. Wrong. All the populous (and popular) areas tend to lean to the left. Of course, if you're talking about Coaldale or Wetmore, then you'd better be able to play "duelling banjos" if you want to visit. Enough to prove my bonfides? Or perhaps we should discuss Florence, the location of the Fed's "Super Max" and the surrounding towns? No?
Wow, a governor with a brain. I'm moving to Colorado. Think they'll let me bring my guns?
Fuck that, they won't let you in without them.
Which proves you never lived there. The whole place is full of tree-hugging greens, relocated hippies, singers, and movie stars that vehemently oppose guns for anyone and oppose the death penalty for everyone except NRA members.
If your peripheral vision is so bad that you have to look down to see your speedometer, you shouldn't really be driving anyway.
Hmm. If you can focus a mile ahead in full sunlight, and still read a shaded speedometer with two scales (MPH and KPH) and all the other gauges, YOU 'DA MAN!! Keep eating those carrots, 'cause they're evidently working.
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reflection in java gives you a lot of rope with which to shoot yourself in the foot.
So, since it's impossible to shoot yourself with a rope, it's not a problem with Java? I've got it . . . I think.
If I am crunching shuttle code at home, how do I test it? Wouldn't be a security problem to publically report the hooks and calls to write such code?
Fer cryin' out loud. They aren't talking about running the shuttle on OSS code. IIRC, the shuttles use 20-year-old, rad-hard processors and other ancient but stable (and hard to replace) gear. They are talking about the advantages of using OSS for regular projects - and like any large organization, there are hundreds or thousands of separate projects. One of those advantages is that the code/information is available in a non-proprietary format.
Unix:Making the easy things hard and the hard things possible.Windows:Making the hard things $29.95
So, you haven't upgraded since Windows 2.0? That should be:
Windows: Making the easy things $229.95. Making the slightly harder things $429.95. We reserve the right to modify the ease or difficulty of things and their respective costs at our whim.
Eewww. Now I understand the high suicide rate for Ada programmers. It's Pascal and COBOL thrown in a blender with none of the redeeming qualities of either.:)
If I were CEO of "MDC", I'd be scared to death of sending my IT work into the hands of people who hate the U.S. and wish my company would go up in flames. I'd lie awake at night worrying about my data being compromised, my trade secrets stolen, and exploits being built into the company's applications. I'd be wondering whatever happened to loyalty and to all the people I RIF'd who built my company and are now in the unemployment line because I'm offshoring their jobs.
Your competitor is able to make his product as fast as you can, faster because he has more quiet, compliant employees who are used to an authoritarian style of management.
But the product they get is infernally slow because it was written solely to the req. docs with no attempt to optimize or streamline and no feedback from the end users. The almost nonexistent comments are impossible to decipher. Even telecons are impossible unless one group stays at work until midnight. Only the offshore workers can fix the doggy code. The company has now lost control of its code.
Your stock is suffering because you cannot show enough profits and expected growth.
If I weren't the CEO, being compensated largely with stock options, I would be interested in long-term company health - not quarterly stock performance. It would not be in my self-interest or the company's best interest to have constantly gyrating stock prices. What happens to the company's stock when so many American workers are unemployed that there are no longer customers for the company's products? Are the coders in Bangalore going to buy American? Some of the articles I've seen(InfoWorld, ComputerWorld, etc.) indicate the savings from offshoring are far less than claimed as well.
As long as the US government provides full access to its markets to companies whose labor force is primarily based outside the US, jobs will continue to fly abroad.
You nailed that one, but don't forget that these companies are still enjoying all the benefits of operating from the U.S. and its infrastructure while no longer paying the taxes to support it. If anyone in gubmint (who cared) ever figured it out, some companies could be in trouble.
Why pay a harvard MBA $200000 to analyze company reports when you can get a guy from Banagalore with an MBA from IIM to do this at a tenth of the cost?
Why do we pay American CEOs such obscene salaries for leading companies down the tubes? I wish I had saved a reference to a recent article on CEO compensation - I believe it averaged 2,500 times the average worker's wage. And, apparently it's only that insane in the U.S. So the question becomes: Why pay a Harvard MBA $120,000,000 to lead a company into ruin when a MBA from Bangalore will do it for $120,000?
The IT industry is still growing. It's just growing in third-world countries, so greedy CEO's who are already obscenely compensated can pocket even more by using sweat-shop labor. (Think textiles and the garment industry - nothing new.)
While I agree with much of what you say, it doesn't matter what party or administration is in power. The H-1B cap was raised under the Clinton administration, which also refused to provide funds for the program's regulations, so companies were free to get rid of American workers.
Both parties are in bed with big business - that's where the campaign contributions come from. We are screwed.
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Whoa. It seems to me that you were the one trying to inflate expectations about people working for SAIC by claiming the managers were so good at detecting the cruft. I related an incident that makes me doubt your claim. I expect the managers and employees at SAIC are no better or worse than those at any other large contractor. I hope that clarifies things for you.
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The managers, as far as I've found, are very good at cutting through the BS to find real skill; you will get picked if you've got what it takes, but the manager may have to "sell" you to the customer based on some of your other credentials until you actually get something formal.
Umm, right. My brother was working on a project that required them to bring in an outside consultant to verify their compliance with certain government regulations, and the "consultant" was from SAIC. This guy's opinions were so far out of whack that my brother (who has a Master's in the field) told him that he would have to provide citations as part of his report. The SAIC "consultant" replied that he couldn't cite any references, he was just going from experience. That is certainly an example of "real skill".
So "Linux is Free" is a myth. But "Linux can be free" is not. If you're going to talk about what is true and what is not you better be
absolute. He also mentions the TCO myth. I have yet to see real numbers showing it go either way, and there aren't any here either. So don't bother looking for them.
Gartner is the same group of dim bulbs that originally convinced companies to give them money for that worthless number called "TCO". I remember when our company management fell for it. Among other things, you have to give Gartner your TLOC, but comments don't count, one line in a 4GL is equal to 10 in a 3GL, and other weird stuff. We had a great laugh at the wild-assed guesses we passed along. So Gartner got the money, and we got our useless magic number. If companies would stop wasting money on consultants like Gartner, their "TCO" would be a lot less.
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I have an idea... why not have the entire of the SCO management killed?
Hunting vermin out of season is illegal, and it wouldn't change anything, anyway. There are plenty of other CEO rats just waiting for a chance to jump in and pillage yet another company. This is all about the stock options. Anything that makes the stock price go up makes the CEO's options worth a lot of money.
Asuming that, as The Register put it, "SCO is Redmond's beard", remember that Microsoft's ultimate legal wet dream would be an all-the-way-to-the-supreme-court challenge to the validity of the GPL.
While I generally don't respond to AC posts, there is no reason to mod that "Funny". Which single company in the whole world would benefit most by having the legitimacy of Linux tied up for years in the legal system? It's not SCO. The AC is right.
And actually you were the first to start insults - I only started the vulgarity.
So on top of your other problems, you suffer from a very short memory. Here is my response to your original post and your reply. It seems pretty clear who was throwing insults. All I did was post two sentences of truth from a resident's perspective, no insult involved.
I'm rather happy with myself and my intelligence . . .
It's nice to see that you're pleased by the small things in life. :) NOW, I'm being insulting, just so you can tell the difference.
I'd suggest you grow a sense of humor, but I know there's no chance of success there.
And after all my +5 Funny posts, gee, that hurts. Perhaps it's you who needs to figure out how to post something that's humorous.
When you see my suicide on the 6 o'clock news, you'll know you're responsible.
Will there be film at Eleven? I'll stay up to watch.
I'm amazed you've continued to respond this long.
Me, too. The minutes I've wasted on your ravings, circular arguments, and meanderings are truly that -- wasted. See you around.
See, your problem is you're too uptight to see that vulgarity is a verbal tool, just like any other. Considering how stilted you are, and your reaction to my littany, I was fully correct and justified.
Having a little problem rationalizing your behavior, are you? First you go out of your way to crudely insult me, then you whine that I've insulted your intelligence, and finally you proclaim your foul-mouthed ravings were proper anyway. Maybe in your world, but I don't know any educated people who automatically resort to foul language when arguing a point. Mindless profanity is a tool? Sure, the same way a broken wrench is a tool. I've noticed your most recent replies haven't needed that "tool" at all.
I only mention that because as soon as someone confuses you with insults and you find yourself devoid of any creative return, you bring up your intelligence. I bet you've even applied to Mensa - though I suspect you didn't get in the first time at least, did you?
You call this creative? I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but you are not the first person to spew garbage like that. You are no George Carlin; your usage is not funny, and you have nothing new to add to the genre. I never brought up my intelligence as a subject, just yours. And I never applied for membership in Mensa. Organizations like that are for insecure people who need crutches, like you. BTW, welcome to my freaks list. You're in good company -- smut peddlers and such. Enjoy. :)
Its a fine line and MS has done a fairly good job given the size of their code base and the pressure on them from the comsumer to get new products out in a timely way.
Whoa, there. Since when is it the consumer who is pressuring MS for new products? It seems to me that it's MS who has been rushing new "features" into production and pressuring consumers to upgrade. I don't know of anyone who had a burning desire to upgrade to Word 2K or Windows XP. The fact that others were upgrading and causing compatibility problems was the compelling reason.
For what it's worth, you always know you've won a batle of wits when someone insults your intelligence.
No, I always know I've won a battle of wits when someone responds with a slobbering rant full of four-letter words like yours. Considering your language, I think "ignorant" was an apt description, and it was not intended to be a joke.
Aw, now you've done it. Your highly intelligent and witty comeback really hurt my feelings. :) Is it a problem to have such a limited vocabulary and imagination, or are you even aware of it?
I really don't give a fuck where you live, so I think you have disinterest confused with stupidity. And what kind of paranoid, tinfoil-hat-wearing dildo thinks the rest of slashdot is out grinding axes on them? Face it, you know nothing about a state in which you lived. That's pathetic. Twat.
I know a lot about about Colorado - I lived there for many years. I think we need a new moderation category, -1 Ignorant, for posters like you.
And you seem to know less about your home state than I do! As quoted from someone else who responded to your stupidity,
It's not my home state, you moron, although I've lived there. And at least I'm not stupid enough to cite a slashdot poster with an axe to grind as an authority. Twit.
So I am going to have to assume that either you haven't been to the state in years or that you are just trolling.
Bzzzt. Wrong. All the populous (and popular) areas tend to lean to the left. Of course, if you're talking about Coaldale or Wetmore, then you'd better be able to play "duelling banjos" if you want to visit. Enough to prove my bonfides? Or perhaps we should discuss Florence, the location of the Fed's "Super Max" and the surrounding towns? No?
Fuck that, they won't let you in without them.
Which proves you never lived there. The whole place is full of tree-hugging greens, relocated hippies, singers, and movie stars that vehemently oppose guns for anyone and oppose the death penalty for everyone except NRA members.
I guess that obsoletes the old racer's aphorism, "If you have time to look down to see how fast you're going, you're not going fast enough."
Hey, did you ever run drags or brackets?
If your peripheral vision is so bad that you have to look down to see your speedometer, you shouldn't really be driving anyway.
Hmm. If you can focus a mile ahead in full sunlight, and still read a shaded speedometer with two scales (MPH and KPH) and all the other gauges, YOU 'DA MAN!! Keep eating those carrots, 'cause they're evidently working.
reflection in java gives you a lot of rope with which to shoot yourself in the foot.
So, since it's impossible to shoot yourself with a rope, it's not a problem with Java? I've got it . . . I think.
total chimp reads (Pan troglodytes): over 12 million
Holy crap, that proves we're related -- so that's where the troll gene comes from!
If I am crunching shuttle code at home, how do I test it? Wouldn't be a security problem to publically report the hooks and calls to write such code?
Fer cryin' out loud. They aren't talking about running the shuttle on OSS code. IIRC, the shuttles use 20-year-old, rad-hard processors and other ancient but stable (and hard to replace) gear. They are talking about the advantages of using OSS for regular projects - and like any large organization, there are hundreds or thousands of separate projects. One of those advantages is that the code/information is available in a non-proprietary format.
Unix:Making the easy things hard and the hard things possible.Windows:Making the hard things $29.95
So, you haven't upgraded since Windows 2.0? That should be:
Windows: Making the easy things $229.95. Making the slightly harder things $429.95. We reserve the right to modify the ease or difficulty of things and their respective costs at our whim.
Eewww. Now I understand the high suicide rate for Ada programmers. It's Pascal and COBOL thrown in a blender with none of the redeeming qualities of either. :)
I can see it now: Sir, we have replace all the Space Shuttle code with a single-line of Perl script.
That's ridiculous. It would take an entire Perl module to replace all that deprecated, legacy code.
If I were CEO of "MDC", I'd be scared to death of sending my IT work into the hands of people who hate the U.S. and wish my company would go up in flames. I'd lie awake at night worrying about my data being compromised, my trade secrets stolen, and exploits being built into the company's applications. I'd be wondering whatever happened to loyalty and to all the people I RIF'd who built my company and are now in the unemployment line because I'm offshoring their jobs.
Your competitor is able to make his product as fast as you can, faster because he has more quiet, compliant employees who are used to an authoritarian style of management.
But the product they get is infernally slow because it was written solely to the req. docs with no attempt to optimize or streamline and no feedback from the end users. The almost nonexistent comments are impossible to decipher. Even telecons are impossible unless one group stays at work until midnight. Only the offshore workers can fix the doggy code. The company has now lost control of its code.
Your stock is suffering because you cannot show enough profits and expected growth.
If I weren't the CEO, being compensated largely with stock options, I would be interested in long-term company health - not quarterly stock performance. It would not be in my self-interest or the company's best interest to have constantly gyrating stock prices. What happens to the company's stock when so many American workers are unemployed that there are no longer customers for the company's products? Are the coders in Bangalore going to buy American? Some of the articles I've seen(InfoWorld, ComputerWorld, etc.) indicate the savings from offshoring are far less than claimed as well.
As long as the US government provides full access to its markets to companies whose labor force is primarily based outside the US, jobs will continue to fly abroad.
You nailed that one, but don't forget that these companies are still enjoying all the benefits of operating from the U.S. and its infrastructure while no longer paying the taxes to support it. If anyone in gubmint (who cared) ever figured it out, some companies could be in trouble.
Why pay a harvard MBA $200000 to analyze company reports when you can get a guy from Banagalore with an MBA from IIM to do this at a tenth of the cost?
Why do we pay American CEOs such obscene salaries for leading companies down the tubes? I wish I had saved a reference to a recent article on CEO compensation - I believe it averaged 2,500 times the average worker's wage. And, apparently it's only that insane in the U.S. So the question becomes: Why pay a Harvard MBA $120,000,000 to lead a company into ruin when a MBA from Bangalore will do it for $120,000?
The IT industry is still growing. It's just growing in third-world countries, so greedy CEO's who are already obscenely compensated can pocket even more by using sweat-shop labor. (Think textiles and the garment industry - nothing new.)
While I agree with much of what you say, it doesn't matter what party or administration is in power. The H-1B cap was raised under the Clinton administration, which also refused to provide funds for the program's regulations, so companies were free to get rid of American workers.
Both parties are in bed with big business - that's where the campaign contributions come from. We are screwed.
Whoa. It seems to me that you were the one trying to inflate expectations about people working for SAIC by claiming the managers were so good at detecting the cruft. I related an incident that makes me doubt your claim. I expect the managers and employees at SAIC are no better or worse than those at any other large contractor. I hope that clarifies things for you.
The managers, as far as I've found, are very good at cutting through the BS to find real skill; you will get picked if you've got what it takes, but the manager may have to "sell" you to the customer based on some of your other credentials until you actually get something formal.
Umm, right. My brother was working on a project that required them to bring in an outside consultant to verify their compliance with certain government regulations, and the "consultant" was from SAIC. This guy's opinions were so far out of whack that my brother (who has a Master's in the field) told him that he would have to provide citations as part of his report. The SAIC "consultant" replied that he couldn't cite any references, he was just going from experience. That is certainly an example of "real skill".
So "Linux is Free" is a myth. But "Linux can be free" is not. If you're going to talk about what is true and what is not you better be absolute. He also mentions the TCO myth. I have yet to see real numbers showing it go either way, and there aren't any here either. So don't bother looking for them.
Gartner is the same group of dim bulbs that originally convinced companies to give them money for that worthless number called "TCO". I remember when our company management fell for it. Among other things, you have to give Gartner your TLOC, but comments don't count, one line in a 4GL is equal to 10 in a 3GL, and other weird stuff. We had a great laugh at the wild-assed guesses we passed along. So Gartner got the money, and we got our useless magic number. If companies would stop wasting money on consultants like Gartner, their "TCO" would be a lot less.