News reports earlier this evening indicate that IP addresses being used by The Which Company/T3 are not theirs, and actually belong to a WA-based Christian Education Center.
In quotes from Steve Crockett, Information Technology Manager for the center - he said that T3's decision to pursue legal action over an IP which it did not even own was "absolutely unconscionable".
He continues "We are wholeheartedly against spamming". "It's an absolute scourge".
According to the news report, Mr. Mansfield's company had been warned not to use the IP addresses and that the company had continued to use them regardless. An employee of Mr. Mansfield's company is said to have received permission from the center about 4 years ago to use the range of addresses - however it was too long ago for him to remember who gave their permission.
Disgusting that spammers will steal from Christians and Schools just to send us junk.
From their website [t3direct.com.au]: The Company has established e-mail databases exceeding 2 million Australian and 30 million world addresses. Currently we send in excess of 1,000,000 e-mails per month to Opt In Permission e-mail subscribers.
So these scum have over 30 million 'opt in' email addresses to spam. Yeah, right. Someone shoot the bastards. No, that's too humane. There's some mediaeval tortures that seem more appropriate.
It's people like this who make me think about introducing some muslim style laws specifically for Spammers. You send spam, we chop off you hands!
All this company has ever done is use eeb-spiders to collect email addresses from websites and add them to their databases. Having also been a victim of T3 Direct, I know they are doing it because they think they can get away with it. The more support thrown behind this suit and Mr McNicol the better.
This case needs to set an example, finally set the standard that the internet community as a whole does not accept spam as a legit. method for product marketing.
They don't actually send spam from those IP addresses. They get numerous dial-up accounts and send spam through those. They don't even refer back to those IP addresses in the spam.
Correct, they use various email accounts on yahoo.com.au and china.com.
And here's the thing, Yahoo! Australia has refused point blank after many contacts to blackban this person from registering any addresses with them. They openly allow people to use their good name in spam email, and won't do a dammed thing about it.
Having been a recipiant of emails from the company in question (T3 Direct), I can tell you he is not an opt-in email as they claim.
Having spoken on one occasion to the man behind this company, Mr Mansfield, I can tell you that they feel that if someone's email address is published on a website, they feel they have the right to send them email.
I have been fighting this guy for over 12 months to get addresses at many of the domains I control off his lists. I got the majority of them out after sending him a cease and decist email letter telling them that they risked legal action for harassment should they continue to send messages to the addresses/domains in question.
I'm still to this day receiving emails from them on some of my other accounts, regardless of the cloaking methods I use on all the websites I control.
It's about time more internet exchanges took up such policies to deny access to their networks to orginisation who condone the transmission of spam.
While it might seem quite harsh in some respects, it's one of many ways which various ISP's are getting together to stop the transmission of spam.
WAIA's policy is basically saying that if you're an ISP who has spammers on your networks or you allow spam to be sent from users of your service, then we will not allow you to save money by peering with other isp's from WAIA.
The fact that WAIA has decided to deny the privledge of peering to ISP's/Organisations who condone the use of SPAM as an acceptable marketing tool is brillant. I would love to see more exchanges take up similar policies to deny these companies the right to cheaper ways to transmist data when all they are doing is wasting others!
Please, Please everyone get on board - this could set a dangerous international legal precident if it goes the way of the spammer. Make sure that this helps on the path to putting the breaks on spam!
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News reports earlier this evening indicate that IP addresses being used by The Which Company/T3 are not theirs, and actually belong to a WA-based Christian Education Center.
According to the report on the AAP wire (http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,4 461895%5E1702,00.html), at least some and possibly all of the IP addresses which are listed in the original complaint actually belong to the Swan Christian Education Center.
In quotes from Steve Crockett, Information Technology Manager for the center - he said that T3's decision to pursue legal action over an IP which it did not even own was "absolutely unconscionable".
He continues "We are wholeheartedly against spamming". "It's an absolute scourge".
According to the news report, Mr. Mansfield's company had been warned not to use the IP addresses and that the company had continued to use them regardless. An employee of Mr. Mansfield's company is said to have received permission from the center about 4 years ago to use the range of addresses - however it was too long ago for him to remember who gave their permission.
Disgusting that spammers will steal from Christians and Schools just to send us junk.
Just as a quick follow-up, i've put up a small website currently which is linking to heaps of the information in relation to this case.
It's available at http://winchester.ii.net/spamsuit.
thewinchester
From their website [t3direct.com.au]: The Company has established e-mail databases exceeding 2 million Australian and 30 million world addresses. Currently we send in excess of 1,000,000 e-mails per month to Opt In Permission e-mail subscribers.
So these scum have over 30 million 'opt in' email addresses to spam. Yeah, right. Someone shoot the bastards. No, that's too humane. There's some mediaeval tortures that seem more appropriate.
It's people like this who make me think about introducing some muslim style laws specifically for Spammers. You send spam, we chop off you hands!
All this company has ever done is use eeb-spiders to collect email addresses from websites and add them to their databases. Having also been a victim of T3 Direct, I know they are doing it because they think they can get away with it. The more support thrown behind this suit and Mr McNicol the better.
This case needs to set an example, finally set the standard that the internet community as a whole does not accept spam as a legit. method for product marketing.
They don't actually send spam from those IP addresses. They get numerous dial-up accounts and send spam through those. They don't even refer back to those IP addresses in the spam.
Correct, they use various email accounts on yahoo.com.au and china.com.
And here's the thing, Yahoo! Australia has refused point blank after many contacts to blackban this person from registering any addresses with them. They openly allow people to use their good name in spam email, and won't do a dammed thing about it.
Having been a recipiant of emails from the company in question (T3 Direct), I can tell you he is not an opt-in email as they claim. Having spoken on one occasion to the man behind this company, Mr Mansfield, I can tell you that they feel that if someone's email address is published on a website, they feel they have the right to send them email. I have been fighting this guy for over 12 months to get addresses at many of the domains I control off his lists. I got the majority of them out after sending him a cease and decist email letter telling them that they risked legal action for harassment should they continue to send messages to the addresses/domains in question. I'm still to this day receiving emails from them on some of my other accounts, regardless of the cloaking methods I use on all the websites I control.
It's about time more internet exchanges took up such policies to deny access to their networks to orginisation who condone the transmission of spam.
While it might seem quite harsh in some respects, it's one of many ways which various ISP's are getting together to stop the transmission of spam.
WAIA's policy is basically saying that if you're an ISP who has spammers on your networks or you allow spam to be sent from users of your service, then we will not allow you to save money by peering with other isp's from WAIA.
The fact that WAIA has decided to deny the privledge of peering to ISP's/Organisations who condone the use of SPAM as an acceptable marketing tool is brillant. I would love to see more exchanges take up similar policies to deny these companies the right to cheaper ways to transmist data when all they are doing is wasting others!
I've spoken to Mr. McNicol this afternoon, he is a great bloke and he deserves all the help he can get fighting off this spammer.
I've gone through all the sites I maintain and put a little link encouraging net users to find out about this and see how they can help. A sample of this is located at http://dvdstore.ii.net/ and http://winchester.ii.net/. This links ppl to their case website located at http://t3-v-mcnicol.ilaw.com.au.
I would encourage anyone who would love to see justice brought down upon this Spammer donate to Mr McNicol's legal fund.
They are currently accepting Fax donations (Print off the form at http://t3-v-mcnicol.ilaw.com.au/donate/fax/index.h tml), or wait a few days and he should be accepting PayPal donations.
Please, Please everyone get on board - this could set a dangerous international legal precident if it goes the way of the spammer. Make sure that this helps on the path to putting the breaks on spam!
thewinchester