Youtube links sparky? That's not entirely a trustworthy source considering that they say themselves they're biased! The first link points to their website...
That build costs $790, that's almost TWO PS4's, and the RAM it has isn't as fast as the PS4's RAM.
And games cost the same?
New games do.
you've apparently never heard of these little things known as Steam sales not to mention that anybody not sticking their head in the sand while waving their little console flag was fast as their little arms will go KNOWS that PC prices drop MUCH faster than on the consoles
I know of Steam Sales, I also know of PSN sales. And while PC games do drop in price faster, that's not a good thing. That means that publishers think PC gamers are simply cheap and secondary priority. You know as well as I do that PC gamers are always saying "why does the PC version seem an afterthought and low priority" It's a low priority because PC gamers are cheap and in the 2nd/3rd world...pirates. Besides...I know a lot of Steamers are collectors. Even if you can buy a 100 games on Steam, you won't have the time to play them all, will you. Go ahead throw 5 bucks at 12 games you will never actually get around to playing, instead of paying $60 on ONE game you will play.
Theif 4 is currently $20 on consoles, not bad eh?
It's currently free for PS+, not bad, eh?
Oh and there is this little thing you may have heard of called Humble Bundles?
Oh yeah, the bundles that many PC Gamers pay 1 cent for? I'll say it again, PC gamers are cheap bastards who'd rather waste money on hardware than spend money on software.
Well first of all you are gonna need TWO consoles as not all the games are on XBone and PS4
I do have 2, or 7. The old ones didn't stop working when I got the PS4.
Reality is you can grab a quad core PC made within the past 5 years for $300, slap a $100 GPU in, and be kicking with some serious gaming with better FPS and higher res than the netbook based consoles can deliver.
I have a quad core Phenom II with a GT640 rev2 GDDR5. It's not the equal of the PS4.
Don't mind a little DIY? Then you can spend $80 less than a PS4
That doesn't include a Hard drive, or blu-ray drive, or an OS, has only a 450W power supply (which will need an immediate upgrade if you want to stick a PS4 beating card in), and only has 4GB of DDR3. Also it's a quad core, and #cores DOES matter.
Then grab yourself a fire breathing monster and pair it with a 250x or 260x and enjoy a PC that will run maybe $20 more than XBone with Kinect that will DEVASTATE both the PS4 and XBone on gaming!
No OS, no blu-ray drive. Adding that videocard and upgrading the power supply will add more to the cost. Not to mention those are barebones systems that require some DIY skills. You expect the masses to do DIY, routing cables, installing the various components INCLUDING the CPU and cooler, when they can just go to their local big box and buy a PS4 or Xbox one "that just works without the hassle" I run Linux, so I don't mind a bit of computing hassle, but with games I want zero hassle and I don't want Windows.
along with any game I want from the early 80s on up, every console from the Atari 2600- PS2
Do you own all the games those ROMs and ISO's belong to and did you rip all those ROM's and ISO's yourself...pirate?
insanely cheap prices and sales, free MP
Frequent sales, and free games every month with PS+.
streaming from any site in any format without needing a subscription
but Razer is about to drop a seriously fast little console for a bill plus controllers, allegedly with third party controller support ala what's built into Android.
It doesn't matter how fast the hardware is when most Android games aren't even a quality match for most PSone games
So "mods" is your new edge-case Axe to Grind, replacing games on SDTV, after-school multiplayer, and why SCEA/NIntendo doesn't just hand a dev kit over to everyone who thinks they're the next Shigeru Miyamoto?
You know that Vita Minecraft doesn't have mods, it's begging the question and just plain silly to ask...it does have DLC mash-up/texture packs. It's featureset is also in-line with the console version, meaning it has actual working anvils, enchanting, potion brewing, redstone, witches, horses, nether, wither, that the Android version doesn't.
(*) : "The PS2 will connect to high-speed networks" PS2 had NO NETWORK DEVICE built-in. You had to wait like two years to buy the Hard disk/ethernet port combo.
The network adapter doesn't include the HDD, that came out later.
.Few games online.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L... More than the Dreamcast ever had and there's a few where the online functions are still operational. SOE only shut down EQOA in 2013!
(*): "It will do Toy Story graphics in real-time!"
Sony never actually said that themselves, it was Microsoft that made that claim in regards to the Xbox, not Sony with the PS2.
.And lets not go into the technical domain, support for the internet, support across all games (almost all) 60 HZ (important in PAL land) and native VGA support. Progressive support something the PS2 never had.
The PS2 does support VGA and progressive scan, anybody with a Linux kit and/or the PS2 component cables can tell you that. The GSX can output a 1280x1024 75Hz 16-bit color signal over VGA, or up to 1080i over component. Which is far far better than the Dreamcast's maximum of 640x480 progressive. Tourist Trophy and Gran Turismo 4, both have 1080i support. Plenty of games have 480p progressive, depending on the game it can be 720x480p widescreen progressive.
That you can get a PC in the $400-$500 range that will do higher resolution AND better graphics
No you can't. You can't buy an octocore machine with 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, a Blu-ray drive, and the equivalent of a GT970 for 400 dollars.
AND will cost less for games, yes?
No, it won't, the game prices are the same.
as somebody that owns a Bobcat netbook I can tell ya they run about as well as an Atom+ION but that's it,a first gen C2D or Athlon X2 just curbstomps the chip when it comes to number crunching.
Stop right there, the Jaguar may be descended from the Bobcat, but it literally isn't a Bobcat so saying it's go the performance of an Atom is utterly wrong. Besides, PC gamers have been saying for years that more cores is better than raw clockspeed, they were using that comparison against the PS3!
The thing is, easy piracy increases console sales.
Maybe in Europe and the 2nd and 3rd world, but not in the US, CA, NZ, AU, UK and Japan. Which...not-surprisingly, are the places with low piracy rates where people are actually willing to buy games.
What? Don't you think it's presumptuous to make blanket statements and judgements about Steam vs whatever when you have zero familiarity with either? Using a car analogy that would be like me dissing the ride/handling/performance/seats of a Saab when I've never even been in one.
Why are you trying to make a medical condition that many people on Slashdot have into a pejorative?
I wouldn't say "many". Some people "claim" to have it. IMHO most just try to use it as a "get out of jail free card" for pedantic bullshit, axe-grinding and sometimes just being a self-important ass.
If you don't agree that linux boxes are generic PCs, I'm not sure how you'll even participate in the conversation.
Linux boxes are PC's but they aren't the same "platform" as other PC's because their OS and software stack is different. you're putting too much emphasis on hardware and not enough on software. For example Steam on OSX, Linux and Windows...are not the same platform. They don't even have the same content or features
It is a generic PC, because you can replace the hardware and run the same software. Because the software is portable to any PC-platform.
Changing the software, changes the platform, no matter what the hardware.
With a black box, you can't run that software on different hardware. You have to buy Branded Console, or you don't get to use that ecosystem.
That's not really a problem for most people, is it. They want the software that runs on the black box so they buy the black box. And besides, Steam is essentially an attempt to bring some of the qualities of "black boxes" to PC gaming.
With Steam, the ecosystem is portable.
No, it's not, Steam on OSX, Steam on Linux and Steam on Windows, aren't the really same ecosystem. It's actually 3 platforms, not one.
That means you can use it on generic machines.
Even on Windows, Steam on some budget dual-core laptop with intel graphics (still the most common hardware on steam) is not really the same platform as Steam on some i7 with quad-sli.
In the past gamers would use Steam and a console. Now, I hear people say, again and again, "I stopped buying console games because Steam."
Where do you hear that? Selection bias much? If you're a PC partisan sort of guy you're going to hang out with other PC Partisans or new converts...especially in Europe.
Anytime I turn mine on (and I'll be damned if I leave it in standby heating the room for months on end just so it can auto-update),
It doesn't heat the room in standby...it sure does when it's on though.
It was an arrogant, obnoxious move that took a single piece of hardware in my living room, that I bought and paid for and presumed I had some semblance of ownership of that used to do two things and told me, sorry Buzz Lightyear, you must choose....
It may be your hardware but the software on it is licensed and it connects to a service that you don't own. You may not like it or agree, but PSN is Sony's sandbox, so they get to make the rules of access. And one of those rules is that if you're not running the most current firmware, you can't connect to PSN because your PS3 isn't "Trusted". The same happens if you disconnect your PS3 for a long time....you have to update the system to connect to PSN. FYI, I was affected as well, I had YDL on mine.
so, about that movie format thing, backing up our own owned videos from DVD to a file server - only specific types of DLNA servers were recognized (maybe that has improved with later software updates, wouldn't know, don't care),
Never had any problem with any DLNA server I tried with it, once I got the ports right. Personally I prefer ps3mediaserver.
only specific MP4 encodings were recognized, had hunt down the specifics on the internet, because the first three formats I tried didn't work, so now the bulk of those backed up DVDs are encoded in the PS3 specific MP4 encoding format
It's not PS3 specific, the PS3 takes standard h264 AVC MPEG4 part 10, supported by many other devices. The PS3 can take Baseline, Main or High profile with CABAC. Which profile you use depends on the resolution...it's an MP4 thing, not a PS3 thing. It can also do MPEG4 part 2 (SP/ASP), and all those other formats listed, but h264 AVC is the most widely supported video format in consumer devices. I've been using the format since 2006, two years before I picked up a PS3.
But, ask yourself, how many hours a week do you spend on your PS3? How many hours cumulative since 2007? Mr. PS3 defender, do you spend less than 2.5 hours a day playing video games?
Yeah, less than 2.5 hours a day these days, It's why I haven't finished Skyrim, I buy fewer games. I have a LOT fewer PS3 games than PSone or PS2 games, and even fewer PS4 games than PS3 games. I picked up my PS3 in 2008, not 2006, a CECHE MGS4 model, the last of the "Fat PS3's" The PS4, however, I bought on launch day. I do play more portable games than I did in the past.
Did being a Jerkass come with your Steam account, or with your Aspergers?
Are you sure you know what Steam is?
yeah, it's basically PSN for PC users. I even have a steam account.
So you have some magical knowledge from having a consumer purchase under your belt. The little proprietary mind gnome is in there throwing pixy dust at your thoughts on the subject.
You haven't owned a console since the genesis...doesn't that mean you don't know much about modern consoles? And yet you are making a judgement on how steam is so superior without any experience with how modern consoles work.
How else could you read what I wrote, which was obviously too long for you, and think that having a proprietary service locked to a black box is the same thing as a service that runs on any generic box?
Steam will run on a generic machine but it's still a walled garden in and of itself and it's own ecosystem not that different from PSN.
Especially in the context of consoles, which you claim to know more than me about through the process of purchasing one.
Not just one, several over the years. Since I've owned more doesn't that pretty much mean I do know more...since again, your last console was a Genesis. So when you say that Steam will "wipe out consoles" can you really expect people to not call you on your lack of experience?
Eventually Sony will have to realise that no matter how many new consoles they throw out, backwards compatibility will be a key issue so players can run their old and favourite titles
Eventually? That's the reason Sony bought Gaikai! Mr. AC....meet Playstation Now:
Right, but people will keep trying until someone gets it right. Razer is about to take a stab at it.
Why buy an "android console" when better already exists, that's what the 3DS and Vita are for. And you don't have to put up with F2P monetized crap like Kardashian game or Game of War, or every other crappy little phone game.
Hell, the Vita version of Minecraft is better than the Android version.
Who's to say consoles will even be a thing in 10 years? I wouldn't be surprised if computers and TVs converge entirely in the near future making consoles obsolete. Want a game? Stream one to your TV from Steam. No consoles required.
You'll still need some kind of small box or built in console functionality in the TV...considering how many Slashdotters don't want smartTV.... I think there will still be boxes. Besides, you can ALREADY stream games to existing consoles. There's this thing called Playstation Now, have you heard of it? Works on the Vita, Vita TV, PS3, PS4 and certain Bravia TV's. Soon it will work on some Samsung models as well:
But some people...like many slashdotters, will still want to "own" their games and will still play locally downloaded/installed titles rather than stream them. The technology has limites. IMHO, game streaming services will supplement full titles not replace them.
I have a pc from about 10 years ago that is like to sell you for top dollar. The specs should be significantly better than any current console
What, are you from Eastern Europe? Where "current console" can mean a gray market genesis clone?
Considering that in 2005 the vast majority of people had a single core cpu with a GeForce 6 or some early 7xxx series if they had money to burn....that's in no way better than the PS4 or Xbox One...it's not even as good as the PS Vita. So no, that 10 year old PC won't deliver the same experience as PS4....or PS3 for that matter.
Really console fan boys have no idea what good graphics are. Heck they couldn't recognize a good ui either.
Do you, tovarisch anonymous coward? Most PC game UI is badly designed, wastes screenspace and is inefficient.
So why again do you want a console? And you want all of Sony dedicated to this? Really? Guess you don't like advancement.
Gaming without the fuss, gospodin anonymous coward. Different strokes for different folks. Go back to your pirated PC games, tovarisch.
And for what? A bloody game console? Why would anyone need another Nintendo?
Hey there "mate" and I call you "mate" coz you're obviously one of those UK anti-console zealots, thanks to Sir Clive getting the UK government to protect him from the likes of Nintendo, Sega and Sony.
Besides, consoles cripple games. Deus Ex 2 could have been a much better game if not for consoles.
Console...singular. DX2 was Xbox only. DX1 however, was on the PS2, with mouse/keyboard support. Blame marketers for what they thought about Xboxers for DX2, not consoles in general.
The last "console" I owned was a Sega Genesis. Luckily, I sold it off to a guy from the local BBS right before the resale price crashed. I guess around `97.
Then you should understand that some might think you're clueless about console gaming in general since you have little familiarity with anything past the Genesis.
My prediction is that Steam will wipe out the console game premium before anybody "solves" how to leverage their proprietary tie-ins.
Steam's been around since..what is it, 2004? With the first third party games in 2005? It didn't wipe out the PS3, did it? What you don't understand is that to console gamers, we already have "steam" we call it PSN or Xbox Markeplace/Live.
but rather with what you can do with it, and what it is marketed as being able to do.
It's marketed for playing games, and watching movies.
The whatever-its-called Steam box is just a generic PC with no special ecosystem whose entire purpose is just to run the same software available already for generic PCs.
Steam on any platform is an ecosystem in it's own right, and SteamOS is most certainly a specific non-generic ecosystem. It's Linux, after all, and DOESN"T run the same software as what most would call a "generic PC".
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PGP isn't a standard
It most certainly is:
RFC 1991, 2440, 4880, 5581, 6637, 2015, 3156
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...
The e-mail client I use has gnupg support by default.
You could check the gnupg users lists, or see if slashdot-userfoo has a key: "slashdot.com/~userfoo/pubkey"
Yes. I have realized that a mod is more reasonable in scope for a community project than a complete game.
You're probably right about that.
but if Half-Life were a console exclusive, Counter-Strike would never have been created in the first place.
That wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, maybe we'd have fewer "manly brown shooter of the week" a la "Duty Calls" sort of games.
Youtube links sparky? That's not entirely a trustworthy source considering that they say themselves they're biased! The first link points to their website...
http://www.pcper.com/news/Gene...
That build costs $790, that's almost TWO PS4's, and the RAM it has isn't as fast as the PS4's RAM.
And games cost the same?
New games do.
you've apparently never heard of these little things known as Steam sales not to mention that anybody not sticking their head in the sand while waving their little console flag was fast as their little arms will go KNOWS that PC prices drop MUCH faster than on the consoles
I know of Steam Sales, I also know of PSN sales. And while PC games do drop in price faster, that's not a good thing. That means that publishers think PC gamers are simply cheap and secondary priority. You know as well as I do that PC gamers are always saying "why does the PC version seem an afterthought and low priority" It's a low priority because PC gamers are cheap and in the 2nd/3rd world...pirates. Besides...I know a lot of Steamers are collectors. Even if you can buy a 100 games on Steam, you won't have the time to play them all, will you. Go ahead throw 5 bucks at 12 games you will never actually get around to playing, instead of paying $60 on ONE game you will play.
Theif 4 is currently $20 on consoles, not bad eh?
It's currently free for PS+, not bad, eh?
Oh and there is this little thing you may have heard of called Humble Bundles?
Oh yeah, the bundles that many PC Gamers pay 1 cent for? I'll say it again, PC gamers are cheap bastards who'd rather waste money on hardware than spend money on software.
Well first of all you are gonna need TWO consoles as not all the games are on XBone and PS4
I do have 2, or 7. The old ones didn't stop working when I got the PS4.
Reality is you can grab a quad core PC made within the past 5 years for $300, slap a $100 GPU in, and be kicking with some serious gaming with better FPS and higher res than the netbook based consoles can deliver.
I have a quad core Phenom II with a GT640 rev2 GDDR5. It's not the equal of the PS4.
Don't mind a little DIY? Then you can spend $80 less than a PS4
That doesn't include a Hard drive, or blu-ray drive, or an OS, has only a 450W power supply (which will need an immediate upgrade if you want to stick a PS4 beating card in), and only has 4GB of DDR3. Also it's a quad core, and #cores DOES matter.
Then grab yourself a fire breathing monster and pair it with a 250x or 260x and enjoy a PC that will run maybe $20 more than XBone with Kinect that will DEVASTATE both the PS4 and XBone on gaming!
No OS, no blu-ray drive. Adding that videocard and upgrading the power supply will add more to the cost. Not to mention those are barebones systems that require some DIY skills. You expect the masses to do DIY, routing cables, installing the various components INCLUDING the CPU and cooler, when they can just go to their local big box and buy a PS4 or Xbox one "that just works without the hassle" I run Linux, so I don't mind a bit of computing hassle, but with games I want zero hassle and I don't want Windows.
along with any game I want from the early 80s on up, every console from the Atari 2600- PS2
Do you own all the games those ROMs and ISO's belong to and did you rip all those ROM's and ISO's yourself...pirate?
insanely cheap prices and sales, free MP
Frequent sales, and free games every month with PS+.
streaming from any site in any format without needing a subscription
You seem to b
but Razer is about to drop a seriously fast little console for a bill plus controllers, allegedly with third party controller support ala what's built into Android.
It doesn't matter how fast the hardware is when most Android games aren't even a quality match for most PSone games
Does Minecraft for PlayStation Vita support mods?
So "mods" is your new edge-case Axe to Grind, replacing games on SDTV, after-school multiplayer, and why SCEA/NIntendo doesn't just hand a dev kit over to everyone who thinks they're the next Shigeru Miyamoto?
You know that Vita Minecraft doesn't have mods, it's begging the question and just plain silly to ask. ..it does have DLC mash-up/texture packs. It's featureset is also in-line with the console version, meaning it has actual working anvils, enchanting, potion brewing, redstone, witches, horses, nether, wither, that the Android version doesn't.
(*) : "The PS2 will connect to high-speed networks" PS2 had NO NETWORK DEVICE built-in. You had to wait like two years to buy the Hard disk/ethernet port combo.
The network adapter doesn't include the HDD, that came out later.
.Few games online.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L... More than the Dreamcast ever had and there's a few where the online functions are still operational. SOE only shut down EQOA in 2013!
(*): "It will do Toy Story graphics in real-time!"
Sony never actually said that themselves, it was Microsoft that made that claim in regards to the Xbox, not Sony with the PS2.
.And lets not go into the technical domain, support for the internet, support across all games (almost all) 60 HZ (important in PAL land) and native VGA support. Progressive support something the PS2 never had.
The PS2 does support VGA and progressive scan, anybody with a Linux kit and/or the PS2 component cables can tell you that. The GSX can output a 1280x1024 75Hz 16-bit color signal over VGA, or up to 1080i over component. Which is far far better than the Dreamcast's maximum of 640x480 progressive. Tourist Trophy and Gran Turismo 4, both have 1080i support. Plenty of games have 480p progressive, depending on the game it can be 720x480p widescreen progressive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...
That you can get a PC in the $400-$500 range that will do higher resolution AND better graphics
No you can't. You can't buy an octocore machine with 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, a Blu-ray drive, and the equivalent of a GT970 for 400 dollars.
AND will cost less for games, yes?
No, it won't, the game prices are the same.
as somebody that owns a Bobcat netbook I can tell ya they run about as well as an Atom+ION but that's it,a first gen C2D or Athlon X2 just curbstomps the chip when it comes to number crunching.
Stop right there, the Jaguar may be descended from the Bobcat, but it literally isn't a Bobcat so saying it's go the performance of an Atom is utterly wrong. Besides, PC gamers have been saying for years that more cores is better than raw clockspeed, they were using that comparison against the PS3!
The thing is, easy piracy increases console sales.
Maybe in Europe and the 2nd and 3rd world, but not in the US, CA, NZ, AU, UK and Japan. Which...not-surprisingly, are the places with low piracy rates where people are actually willing to buy games.
LOL buying stuff doesn't enhance your ability to understand it. D'Oh!
Buying a PS3/PS4 DOES mean you understand how it and it's ecosystem works in a general sense, better than someone who DOESN"T own one.
But you're the self important knows-all Aigheearach who thinks everyone else but him can't comprehend or understand things.
Ah, beowulf cluster and CowboyNeal jokes...those were the days.
I don't have a Steam account. LOL
What? Don't you think it's presumptuous to make blanket statements and judgements about Steam vs whatever when you have zero familiarity with either? Using a car analogy that would be like me dissing the ride/handling/performance/seats of a Saab when I've never even been in one.
Why are you trying to make a medical condition that many people on Slashdot have into a pejorative?
I wouldn't say "many". Some people "claim" to have it. IMHO most just try to use it as a "get out of jail free card" for pedantic bullshit, axe-grinding and sometimes just being a self-important ass.
If you don't agree that linux boxes are generic PCs, I'm not sure how you'll even participate in the conversation.
Linux boxes are PC's but they aren't the same "platform" as other PC's because their OS and software stack is different. you're putting too much emphasis on hardware and not enough on software. For example Steam on OSX, Linux and Windows...are not the same platform. They don't even have the same content or features
It is a generic PC, because you can replace the hardware and run the same software. Because the software is portable to any PC-platform.
Changing the software, changes the platform, no matter what the hardware.
With a black box, you can't run that software on different hardware. You have to buy Branded Console, or you don't get to use that ecosystem.
That's not really a problem for most people, is it. They want the software that runs on the black box so they buy the black box. And besides, Steam is essentially an attempt to bring some of the qualities of "black boxes" to PC gaming.
With Steam, the ecosystem is portable.
No, it's not, Steam on OSX, Steam on Linux and Steam on Windows, aren't the really same ecosystem. It's actually 3 platforms, not one.
That means you can use it on generic machines.
Even on Windows, Steam on some budget dual-core laptop with intel graphics (still the most common hardware on steam) is not really the same platform as Steam on some i7 with quad-sli.
In the past gamers would use Steam and a console. Now, I hear people say, again and again, "I stopped buying console games because Steam."
Where do you hear that? Selection bias much? If you're a PC partisan sort of guy you're going to hang out with other PC Partisans or new converts...especially in Europe.
Anytime I turn mine on (and I'll be damned if I leave it in standby heating the room for months on end just so it can auto-update),
It doesn't heat the room in standby...it sure does when it's on though.
It was an arrogant, obnoxious move that took a single piece of hardware in my living room, that I bought and paid for and presumed I had some semblance of ownership of that used to do two things and told me, sorry Buzz Lightyear, you must choose....
It may be your hardware but the software on it is licensed and it connects to a service that you don't own. You may not like it or agree, but PSN is Sony's sandbox, so they get to make the rules of access. And one of those rules is that if you're not running the most current firmware, you can't connect to PSN because your PS3 isn't "Trusted". The same happens if you disconnect your PS3 for a long time....you have to update the system to connect to PSN. FYI, I was affected as well, I had YDL on mine.
so, about that movie format thing, backing up our own owned videos from DVD to a file server - only specific types of DLNA servers were recognized (maybe that has improved with later software updates, wouldn't know, don't care),
Never had any problem with any DLNA server I tried with it, once I got the ports right. Personally I prefer ps3mediaserver.
only specific MP4 encodings were recognized, had hunt down the specifics on the internet, because the first three formats I tried didn't work, so now the bulk of those backed up DVDs are encoded in the PS3 specific MP4 encoding format
It's not PS3 specific, the PS3 takes standard h264 AVC MPEG4 part 10, supported by many other devices. The PS3 can take Baseline, Main or High profile with CABAC. Which profile you use depends on the resolution...it's an MP4 thing, not a PS3 thing. It can also do MPEG4 part 2 (SP/ASP), and all those other formats listed, but h264 AVC is the most widely supported video format in consumer devices. I've been using the format since 2006, two years before I picked up a PS3.
But, ask yourself, how many hours a week do you spend on your PS3? How many hours cumulative since 2007?
Mr. PS3 defender, do you spend less than 2.5 hours a day playing video games?
Yeah, less than 2.5 hours a day these days, It's why I haven't finished Skyrim, I buy fewer games. I have a LOT fewer PS3 games than PSone or PS2 games, and even fewer PS4 games than PS3 games. I picked up my PS3 in 2008, not 2006, a CECHE MGS4 model, the last of the "Fat PS3's" The PS4, however, I bought on launch day. I do play more portable games than I did in the past.
Did being a Jerkass come with your Steam account, or with your Aspergers?
Are you sure you know what Steam is?
yeah, it's basically PSN for PC users. I even have a steam account.
So you have some magical knowledge from having a consumer purchase under your belt. The little proprietary mind gnome is in there throwing pixy dust at your thoughts on the subject.
You haven't owned a console since the genesis...doesn't that mean you don't know much about modern consoles? And yet you are making a judgement on how steam is so superior without any experience with how modern consoles work.
How else could you read what I wrote, which was obviously too long for you, and think that having a proprietary service locked to a black box is the same thing as a service that runs on any generic box?
Steam will run on a generic machine but it's still a walled garden in and of itself and it's own ecosystem not that different from PSN.
Especially in the context of consoles, which you claim to know more than me about through the process of purchasing one.
Not just one, several over the years. Since I've owned more doesn't that pretty much mean I do know more...since again, your last console was a Genesis. So when you say that Steam will "wipe out consoles" can you really expect people to not call you on your lack of experience?
Eventually Sony will have to realise that no matter how many new consoles they throw out, backwards compatibility will be a key issue so players can run their old and favourite titles
Eventually? That's the reason Sony bought Gaikai! Mr. AC....meet Playstation Now:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...
Right, but people will keep trying until someone gets it right. Razer is about to take a stab at it.
Why buy an "android console" when better already exists, that's what the 3DS and Vita are for. And you don't have to put up with F2P monetized crap like Kardashian game or Game of War, or every other crappy little phone game.
Hell, the Vita version of Minecraft is better than the Android version.
Who's to say consoles will even be a thing in 10 years? I wouldn't be surprised if computers and TVs converge entirely in the near future making consoles obsolete. Want a game? Stream one to your TV from Steam. No consoles required.
You'll still need some kind of small box or built in console functionality in the TV...considering how many Slashdotters don't want smartTV.... I think there will still be boxes. Besides, you can ALREADY stream games to existing consoles. There's this thing called Playstation Now, have you heard of it? Works on the Vita, Vita TV, PS3, PS4 and certain Bravia TV's. Soon it will work on some Samsung models as well:
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But some people...like many slashdotters, will still want to "own" their games and will still play locally downloaded/installed titles rather than stream them. The technology has limites. IMHO, game streaming services will supplement full titles not replace them.
I don't have time to game so when I get a chance I almost always find myself having to download a new version.
What, you on 1Mbps DSL or something? Forget to turn on background updates? You do know that it will download updates on it's own right?
I have a pc from about 10 years ago that is like to sell you for top dollar. The specs should be significantly better than any current console
What, are you from Eastern Europe? Where "current console" can mean a gray market genesis clone?
Considering that in 2005 the vast majority of people had a single core cpu with a GeForce 6 or some early 7xxx series if they had money to burn....that's in no way better than the PS4 or Xbox One...it's not even as good as the PS Vita. So no, that 10 year old PC won't deliver the same experience as PS4....or PS3 for that matter.
Really console fan boys have no idea what good graphics are. Heck they couldn't recognize a good ui either.
Do you, tovarisch anonymous coward? Most PC game UI is badly designed, wastes screenspace and is inefficient.
So why again do you want a console?
And you want all of Sony dedicated to this? Really? Guess you don't like advancement.
Gaming without the fuss, gospodin anonymous coward. Different strokes for different folks. Go back to your pirated PC games, tovarisch.
SONY should work on creating the premiere desktop and gaming Linux distro.
They DID create a Linux distro, it was a customized version of Kondara Linux, a japanese localized version of Red Hat 6.
Sony also maintained the Linux toolchain for the PS3, IBM maintained the kernel and gdb.
There's a perfect opening for SONY to come out with a Linux distro that people would actually want to use.
Why should they, when they can just use FreeBSD...and they DO use FreeBSD.
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And for what? A bloody game console? Why would anyone need another Nintendo?
Hey there "mate" and I call you "mate" coz you're obviously one of those UK anti-console zealots, thanks to Sir Clive getting the UK government to protect him from the likes of Nintendo, Sega and Sony.
Besides, consoles cripple games. Deus Ex 2 could have been a much better game if not for consoles.
Console...singular. DX2 was Xbox only. DX1 however, was on the PS2, with mouse/keyboard support. Blame marketers for what they thought about Xboxers for DX2, not consoles in general.
The last "console" I owned was a Sega Genesis. Luckily, I sold it off to a guy from the local BBS right before the resale price crashed. I guess around `97.
Then you should understand that some might think you're clueless about console gaming in general since you have little familiarity with anything past the Genesis.
My prediction is that Steam will wipe out the console game premium before anybody "solves" how to leverage their proprietary tie-ins.
Steam's been around since..what is it, 2004? With the first third party games in 2005? It didn't wipe out the PS3, did it? What you don't understand is that to console gamers, we already have "steam" we call it PSN or Xbox Markeplace/Live.
but rather with what you can do with it, and what it is marketed as being able to do.
It's marketed for playing games, and watching movies.
The whatever-its-called Steam box is just a generic PC with no special ecosystem whose entire purpose is just to run the same software available already for generic PCs.
Steam on any platform is an ecosystem in it's own right, and SteamOS is most certainly a specific non-generic ecosystem. It's Linux, after all, and DOESN"T run the same software as what most would call a "generic PC".