Then you are a great example of those uneducated/ignorant people who live around here.
Perhaps getting yourself a laptop would make you smarter. Or you could come with me, there might be a 2x1 brain bargain... and you can keep both, clustered.
Regards,
AiZ
>>We, the people who live in those needy countries do not need cheap computers.
>Who elected you spokesperson of a couple of billion people?
What do you mean by "who"? do you want all the names?
Well... there were many Carlos from Venezuela, some Juanes from Costa Rica, plenty of Joaos from Brazil... And I cant remember that black man's name from Africa... It think it was Motumbo, but Im too bad for names (sorry Motumbo if you are reading this and I spelled your name wrong).
Regards,
AiZ
PS: Read the "rhetorical debate" explanation, is much clever than my answer.
They have educational problems... SEND THEM BOOKS!
No, nono... it does not work that way. The problem is not the lack of books... the problem relays in culture. You are viewing everything from a theorical point of view.
Deny the choice? which choice? Arent governments supposed to pay for all that? Do you have any idea what corruption is?
I dont focus entirely on providing just the basics. What I said is that that need to be covered in a better way that is being covered now, and there are many things in the middle between food, shelter... and laptops. You have the point of view for a developed country, 3rd world does not work that way.
People is not uneducated, is what you dont seem to get... the problem in 3rd world is not ALL the people, is the breach that exists between the groups. You have very well educated people, and then you have people that is not educated at all and live of paper recycling... then i dont understand who computers are for. For investigators or educators? They will be pissed off... having the govnmnt invest in such a thing when they dont even get U$S100 a month, and they've been asking for better salaries since I remember.
What gives me the right to speak on behalf on those? perhaps because I live in a 3rd world country, and I go out to the streets everyday and see what people is suffering. Believe me, when I enter the subway they are not asking me for nickel batteries for their old laptops... when I stop in a traffic light they dont come close to my car to ask me about changing their screen resolution. Then, since I live a reality which is full of this kind of problems everyday I can speak from what I see.
Regarding taxes, I said SALE taxes. If you want to compare the same way, including the rest of the taxes here you end up paying around 45%. Believe it.
Catch up? What do you think we third-worlders are?
Catch up to what??? To email? to blogs? to what?
To have knowledge and education you dont need a computer. You need shelter, you need health... so THEN you can think in something else.
Stop watching us from north of texas like we need what you need. Reality is different here.
Is there anybody who really thinks that solution lies in laptops?? well... if you do... I guess you are the one who need education, and... oh! YOU HAVE A LAPTOP!
Regards,
AiZ
Sure, but do you think our govs should spend that money on that when you happen to go to a public hospital and you have no bandages?
Let them spend U$S 100 on that kind of things, then we will talk about getting computers.
Take a look at Maslow's theory of Hierarchy Of Human Necessity and you will find out that before computers, human beings need food, clothing, shelter and health. Education comes after that... and education with laptops comes waaaaay after that.
If you were living in third world countries you would see that we got credits from IMF, from several other funds, from the World Bank... and that does not reach "WE THE PEOPLE". This laptops idea is the same thing.
And who will pay for that? WE THE PEOPLE.
If you lived in a 3rd world country then you will know what half a million dollars mean here. It means A LOT OF MONEY for us, much more than for you. (500k is the minimum amount a govermnet need to "invest" in this project).
So please dont sell this idea to our govs. It really sucks to be down here stuck in the 3rd world, paying 21% of sale taxes (instead of 6 or 8 percent as you guys do in the USA) and not having covered even first needs for our population.
Regards,
AiZ
We, the people who live in those needy countries do not need cheap computers. Thank you Nicholas, but we need some other stuff first if you guys want to help us. And our governments are so stupid that they will buy these computers for our people instead of using that money to address some other issues.
The will is ok, but it will end up doing us worse.
In my country (Argentina) all those computers will end up in wrong hands. We dont need computers for education; it seems that americans believe that are helping the world, but from this side of the counter it is all different.
Countries dont need to be invaded to get help... not with your armies, not with your patents, not with your companies that take full advantage of our corrupt governments (as this project)... It is our fault, but please stop "helping" us in those ways because it harms people seriously.
Your banks lend money to our govs, that money goes somewhere else, no-one controls that seriously and we all end up paying that "help" and nobody gets anything.
Nicholas, if you want to help then travel to our country and do something punctual. But SKIP governments; or else you will be feeding corruption and you will never know.
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Then you are a great example of those uneducated/ignorant people who live around here. Perhaps getting yourself a laptop would make you smarter. Or you could come with me, there might be a 2x1 brain bargain... and you can keep both, clustered. Regards, AiZ
>>We, the people who live in those needy countries do not need cheap computers. >Who elected you spokesperson of a couple of billion people? What do you mean by "who"? do you want all the names? Well... there were many Carlos from Venezuela, some Juanes from Costa Rica, plenty of Joaos from Brazil... And I cant remember that black man's name from Africa... It think it was Motumbo, but Im too bad for names (sorry Motumbo if you are reading this and I spelled your name wrong). Regards, AiZ PS: Read the "rhetorical debate" explanation, is much clever than my answer.
They have educational problems... SEND THEM BOOKS! No, nono... it does not work that way. The problem is not the lack of books... the problem relays in culture. You are viewing everything from a theorical point of view. Deny the choice? which choice? Arent governments supposed to pay for all that? Do you have any idea what corruption is?
I dont focus entirely on providing just the basics. What I said is that that need to be covered in a better way that is being covered now, and there are many things in the middle between food, shelter... and laptops. You have the point of view for a developed country, 3rd world does not work that way. People is not uneducated, is what you dont seem to get... the problem in 3rd world is not ALL the people, is the breach that exists between the groups. You have very well educated people, and then you have people that is not educated at all and live of paper recycling... then i dont understand who computers are for. For investigators or educators? They will be pissed off... having the govnmnt invest in such a thing when they dont even get U$S100 a month, and they've been asking for better salaries since I remember. What gives me the right to speak on behalf on those? perhaps because I live in a 3rd world country, and I go out to the streets everyday and see what people is suffering. Believe me, when I enter the subway they are not asking me for nickel batteries for their old laptops... when I stop in a traffic light they dont come close to my car to ask me about changing their screen resolution. Then, since I live a reality which is full of this kind of problems everyday I can speak from what I see. Regarding taxes, I said SALE taxes. If you want to compare the same way, including the rest of the taxes here you end up paying around 45%. Believe it.
Catch up? What do you think we third-worlders are? Catch up to what??? To email? to blogs? to what? To have knowledge and education you dont need a computer. You need shelter, you need health... so THEN you can think in something else. Stop watching us from north of texas like we need what you need. Reality is different here. Is there anybody who really thinks that solution lies in laptops?? well... if you do... I guess you are the one who need education, and... oh! YOU HAVE A LAPTOP! Regards, AiZ
Sure, but do you think our govs should spend that money on that when you happen to go to a public hospital and you have no bandages? Let them spend U$S 100 on that kind of things, then we will talk about getting computers. Take a look at Maslow's theory of Hierarchy Of Human Necessity and you will find out that before computers, human beings need food, clothing, shelter and health. Education comes after that... and education with laptops comes waaaaay after that. If you were living in third world countries you would see that we got credits from IMF, from several other funds, from the World Bank... and that does not reach "WE THE PEOPLE". This laptops idea is the same thing. And who will pay for that? WE THE PEOPLE. If you lived in a 3rd world country then you will know what half a million dollars mean here. It means A LOT OF MONEY for us, much more than for you. (500k is the minimum amount a govermnet need to "invest" in this project). So please dont sell this idea to our govs. It really sucks to be down here stuck in the 3rd world, paying 21% of sale taxes (instead of 6 or 8 percent as you guys do in the USA) and not having covered even first needs for our population. Regards, AiZ
We, the people who live in those needy countries do not need cheap computers.
Thank you Nicholas, but we need some other stuff first if you guys want to help us. And our governments are so stupid that they will buy these computers for our people instead of using that money to address some other issues.
The will is ok, but it will end up doing us worse.
In my country (Argentina) all those computers will end up in wrong hands. We dont need computers for education; it seems that americans believe that are helping the world, but from this side of the counter it is all different.
Countries dont need to be invaded to get help... not with your armies, not with your patents, not with your companies that take full advantage of our corrupt governments (as this project)... It is our fault, but please stop "helping" us in those ways because it harms people seriously.
Your banks lend money to our govs, that money goes somewhere else, no-one controls that seriously and we all end up paying that "help" and nobody gets anything.
Nicholas, if you want to help then travel to our country and do something punctual. But SKIP governments; or else you will be feeding corruption and you will never know.
Regards,
AiZ