Yep, and my hometown removed the public skate park (which was built with funds raised spearheaded by myself and a group of friends, we spent countless hours working with the police and town council to get some park land and whatnot to build it) In the end it just became a place that kids sold and used drugs.
It was a bitch, it seemed so win-win, the cops didnt have to keep chasing us out of the mall parking lot, we got a place to skate. Unfortunately a bunch of assholes ruined it for everyone, and it's unlikely that the town will ever go for the idea again.
My impression is the whole thing was a publicity stunt.
For the mother/child to go to the media in the morning, then settle that night? Like I said before, if they went to the press legitimately, it'd be because they felt the suit was unjust, and they'd be literally flooded with lawyers willing to take the case pro bono just for the publicity.
The whole thing makes absolutely no sense, except to get people to read the "I'm so sorry I hurt the artists I love - please kids dont do P2P!" message.
I wish I had the free time to investigate and show it for the scam it was. I bet you'd find that the mom works for the RIAA or local Tower records or some such shit.
If the labels acknowledge a legitimate use for P2P programs, it would undercut their case as well as their zero-tolerance stance
Right, and insurance companies get info on which vehicles are most popular, based on the ones that are stolen more frequently. They can adjust insurance rates accordingly.
Therefore it undercuts their case when an insurance company goes after a thief or vandal to recoup damages they've paid out.
Quit trying to justify widespread copyright infringement. Stations get the same info based on surveys and call-in request hours.
They can ask for real damages plus punitive damages.
Say you go to your car, you left the windows down because it was a hot summer day. You find that I've dumped a bag of dog feces all over the drivers seat.
Real damages? 5 bucks for cleaning supplies. Punitive damages? Probably up to 5 grand in small claims court.
Get a job - McDonalds. He can pick vegetables out in those SoCal fields - they don't care who they hire. The world doesn't owe this kid a corner office and a secretary.
Go to college - Parent cant afford it because your tuition money went towards bail? Boo fucking hoo. The world doesn't owe him a college education either.
No, the guy could be sitting outside on the curb and say to me as I come home "Hey, I notice you have X brand locks on your doors and windows. You know you can open those things in 3 seconds with a credit card, I can show you if you like".
Then I wouldnt have a problem, and would appreciate his advice - the difference is he RESPECTED my property.
The same guy waiting in my living room is going to be beaten within an inch of his life (self defense ya know - my word against his), then dragged off to jail by the cops. Then sued.
Who cares if you like how people use the word 'hacking'. It's irrelevant. I don't like that people who trade xbox games online call them "isos".
I agree with the judge. I'm sick of asshat 14 year olds thinking it's open season to screw around with other people's property. It doesnt matter if I have the latest kernel patches or a club and locking boot for my car.
The point is, it's mine, not yours. Mess with it, and pay the piper.
Your trespassing fine will wind up paying for increased police patrols of my neighbourhood.
Now enough with the stupid analogies.
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Then they tell the fellow he can't use a computer but has to get full-time employment! I imagine anyone savvy enough to Slashdot can see the irony there.;^)
Yeah, he can get a job waiting tables. Or shovelling shit. Or flipping hamburgers. Tough shit for him.
Pedophiles are ordered to stay away from children, 'r337 hax0rz' ordered to stay away from computers. Makes perfect sense. You commit a crime, you give up some rights.
If I collect a garbage bag full of dogshit, and dump it into someones open car window, there's no real monetary damage done, right? After all they just have to clean up.
So therefore no harm-no foul.
It's idiotic. I agree with the judge in this case, I'm fed up with script kiddies and the douchebags who champion them.
Who cares about some Lamo. I'm sick of asshole kids and this uber-l337 hax0r crap. Stay out of other peoples computers, just like you stay off their property and out of their homes.
Who cares if he caused $X amount of actual damage? There's such a thing as punitive damages. If you smash up my car, I can get the value of the damage plus some, just to punish you for being a stupid dickhead.
AT LEAST WATCH AN EPISODE OF FUCKING JUDGE JUDY BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR YAMMERING IANAL MOUTHS.
Here's hoping Lamo goes to a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison, and a message is sent to the rest of you uber-hax0rz out there (read script kiddies).
Worker happiness is about liking your job. I have about a month of vacation time racked up, but I don't plan on taking it any time soon, and wouldnt think of taking it all at once.
I like my job, and I'd much rather be here writing code than sitting at home eating cheerios.
If this story was on the level, there'd be an army of lawyers beating down their door to represent them pro bono, if only to get their names in the paper.
I call shenanigans on this whole "saga".
The whole thing just reeks of publicity stunt. It's on the same intelligence insulting level as the "look what will happen to you if you smoke marijuana, kids!" tripe.
Perhaps if you parsed them both, and compared the resulting object code, right before compilation?
That way if your variable is called numOfPorts and mine is called countOfPorts, the parsed code is the same for both, when stuff like that becomes meaningless.
Even if not, SCO seems to be saying that much of the code is copy-n-paste anyways.
Most defense research today is aimed at not killing people, or killing less people. Non-lethal weapons are the hot-ticket item. Electrostatic bombs that knock out the power grid but do virtually no physical damage.
Compared to tech of Vietnam, let alone Korea or WWII, I find it amazing how few people, and how little damage was done in Iraq an Afghanistan.
Nowadays the media goes into a frenzy when a handful of civilians get killed. Realize the "old way" was to carpet bomb the whole area.
Now the hot-ticket item is non-lethal systems. For home use (cops) as well. That's great. I'd much rather be hit by a stray beanbag than a cyanide-tipped armor piercing machine gun round.
War's a bitch but a fact of life. I think scientists who endeavor to make conflict as bloodless as possible deserve respect, and they're on high moral ground.
Look at how far the military has advanced technology. Look at airplanes of WWI vs WWII vs today, both commercial and military. Look at computers. Silly putty was developed under a defense contract, the guy was trying to find a synthetic rubber due to the shortage!
"Dual use" is another buzzword that's supposed to convey something sinister. Virtually anything can be considered "dual use".
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Yep, and my hometown removed the public skate park (which was built with funds raised spearheaded by myself and a group of friends, we spent countless hours working with the police and town council to get some park land and whatnot to build it) In the end it just became a place that kids sold and used drugs.
It was a bitch, it seemed so win-win, the cops didnt have to keep chasing us out of the mall parking lot, we got a place to skate. Unfortunately a bunch of assholes ruined it for everyone, and it's unlikely that the town will ever go for the idea again.
My impression is the whole thing was a publicity stunt.
For the mother/child to go to the media in the morning, then settle that night? Like I said before, if they went to the press legitimately, it'd be because they felt the suit was unjust, and they'd be literally flooded with lawyers willing to take the case pro bono just for the publicity.
The whole thing makes absolutely no sense, except to get people to read the "I'm so sorry I hurt the artists I love - please kids dont do P2P!" message.
I wish I had the free time to investigate and show it for the scam it was. I bet you'd find that the mom works for the RIAA or local Tower records or some such shit.
Lots of companies do that.
The management at WalMart knows what to put anti-theft tags on, which aisles to focus the camera's on, etc.
Why should that undermine their ability to prosecute/sue shoplifters?
This is just more pontificating trying to justify P2P based piracy.
If the labels acknowledge a legitimate use for P2P programs, it would undercut their case as well as their zero-tolerance stance
Right, and insurance companies get info on which vehicles are most popular, based on the ones that are stolen more frequently. They can adjust insurance rates accordingly.
Therefore it undercuts their case when an insurance company goes after a thief or vandal to recoup damages they've paid out.
Quit trying to justify widespread copyright infringement. Stations get the same info based on surveys and call-in request hours.
They can ask for real damages plus punitive damages.
Say you go to your car, you left the windows down because it was a hot summer day. You find that I've dumped a bag of dog feces all over the drivers seat.
Real damages? 5 bucks for cleaning supplies. Punitive damages? Probably up to 5 grand in small claims court.
Get a job - McDonalds. He can pick vegetables out in those SoCal fields - they don't care who they hire. The world doesn't owe this kid a corner office and a secretary.
Go to college - Parent cant afford it because your tuition money went towards bail? Boo fucking hoo. The world doesn't owe him a college education either.
No, the guy could be sitting outside on the curb and say to me as I come home "Hey, I notice you have X brand locks on your doors and windows. You know you can open those things in 3 seconds with a credit card, I can show you if you like".
Then I wouldnt have a problem, and would appreciate his advice - the difference is he RESPECTED my property.
The same guy waiting in my living room is going to be beaten within an inch of his life (self defense ya know - my word against his), then dragged off to jail by the cops. Then sued.
Who cares if you like how people use the word 'hacking'. It's irrelevant. I don't like that people who trade xbox games online call them "isos".
I agree with the judge. I'm sick of asshat 14 year olds thinking it's open season to screw around with other people's property. It doesnt matter if I have the latest kernel patches or a club and locking boot for my car.
The point is, it's mine, not yours. Mess with it, and pay the piper.
Your trespassing fine will wind up paying for increased police patrols of my neighbourhood.
Now enough with the stupid analogies.
Then they tell the fellow he can't use a computer but has to get full-time employment! I imagine anyone savvy enough to Slashdot can see the irony there. ;^)
Yeah, he can get a job waiting tables. Or shovelling shit. Or flipping hamburgers. Tough shit for him.
Pedophiles are ordered to stay away from children, 'r337 hax0rz' ordered to stay away from computers. Makes perfect sense. You commit a crime, you give up some rights.
Who cares if a site goes down at all.
If I collect a garbage bag full of dogshit, and dump it into someones open car window, there's no real monetary damage done, right? After all they just have to clean up.
So therefore no harm-no foul.
It's idiotic. I agree with the judge in this case, I'm fed up with script kiddies and the douchebags who champion them.
read the article about the nature of the 'damage'
What article? How about a link?
Gawd.
Who cares about some Lamo. I'm sick of asshole kids and this uber-l337 hax0r crap. Stay out of other peoples computers, just like you stay off their property and out of their homes.
Who cares if he caused $X amount of actual damage? There's such a thing as punitive damages. If you smash up my car, I can get the value of the damage plus some, just to punish you for being a stupid dickhead.
AT LEAST WATCH AN EPISODE OF FUCKING JUDGE JUDY BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR YAMMERING IANAL MOUTHS.
Here's hoping Lamo goes to a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison, and a message is sent to the rest of you uber-hax0rz out there (read script kiddies).
Worker happiness is about liking your job. I have about a month of vacation time racked up, but I don't plan on taking it any time soon, and wouldnt think of taking it all at once.
I like my job, and I'd much rather be here writing code than sitting at home eating cheerios.
Congratulations on falling for the Simpsons/Futurama quote misappropration troll.
It's an invention of mine.
Patent pending.
Now, if you excuse me, I'm going to drink till I reboot (That's from Family Guy!)
If this story was on the level, there'd be an army of lawyers beating down their door to represent them pro bono, if only to get their names in the paper.
I call shenanigans on this whole "saga".
The whole thing just reeks of publicity stunt. It's on the same intelligence insulting level as the "look what will happen to you if you smoke marijuana, kids!" tripe.
Perhaps if you parsed them both, and compared the resulting object code, right before compilation?
That way if your variable is called numOfPorts and mine is called countOfPorts, the parsed code is the same for both, when stuff like that becomes meaningless.
Even if not, SCO seems to be saying that much of the code is copy-n-paste anyways.
Hey, how come dictionary.com has three definitions for bullshit, and none of them are "feces from a male cow?"
Dude, that's fucked up right there.
Is that why you quit your job at McDonalds?
Most defense research today is aimed at not killing people, or killing less people. Non-lethal weapons are the hot-ticket item. Electrostatic bombs that knock out the power grid but do virtually no physical damage.
"Lets make litter outta these literate!"
"That's too clever, you're one of them!!"
- Futurama
That's nothing.
If it weren't for the DoD's severe rubber shortage in WWII when Japan cut them off, Silly Putty would have never been developed!
Where would society be without the ability to distort a mirror image of characters in sunday comics?
I don't want to live in a world without tall skinny Garfield.
Compared to tech of Vietnam, let alone Korea or WWII, I find it amazing how few people, and how little damage was done in Iraq an Afghanistan.
Nowadays the media goes into a frenzy when a handful of civilians get killed. Realize the "old way" was to carpet bomb the whole area.
Now the hot-ticket item is non-lethal systems. For home use (cops) as well. That's great. I'd much rather be hit by a stray beanbag than a cyanide-tipped armor piercing machine gun round.
War's a bitch but a fact of life. I think scientists who endeavor to make conflict as bloodless as possible deserve respect, and they're on high moral ground.
Congratulations!
You have been taken in by slashdots first Simpsons/Futurama quote misappropriation troll!
To quote Stan Cartman from South Park: "Don't have a cow, man!"
Look at how far the military has advanced technology. Look at airplanes of WWI vs WWII vs today, both commercial and military. Look at computers. Silly putty was developed under a defense contract, the guy was trying to find a synthetic rubber due to the shortage!
"Dual use" is another buzzword that's supposed to convey something sinister. Virtually anything can be considered "dual use".
..like all that cash thats been dumped into OSS by way of NSA linux, ReiserFS, etc, etc?
Those guys are all shameful murdering hypocrites too, lest we forget!
"I am a good... .work.. guy"
"You're fired!"
"Why, I didn't say E"
"You will."
(trapdoor opens)
"Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
- quote from Futurama