I am a product of the california public school system. Class of 99 from orange glen high. I did have a teacher who introduced us to algebra in the 6th grade and even used a real algebra 1 book. But that was not the norm, he did that because he thought it would be good for us and it was. Managed to take geometry alg II, pre-calc and stats in HS, I am just finished up at the local community college and will be transferring to UCSD this fall. I got to take my 3 semesters of calc linear algebra and diffy q's and three semesters of calc based physics, I had a really great prof for te first two sems of physics (kinematics and electricty and magnetism) had to derive the e-fields of all these crazy shaped objects with diff eq. It was fun. I am a computer engineering major now at UCSD. I think the public school system lets you succeed if you really want but if you are unmotivate in junior high/HS you can get left behind real quick and it happens all the time. If you are motivated you will take the advanced classes and be just fine.
just my two cents
Ok I am pretty young, 20, I read a bunch of stuff on the net and bbs about phone phreaking in the early 90's, recording certian frequency sounds and playing them over the phone to gain access to any telephone resource you want. Blue boxes brownb boxes, rainbow boxes whatever. Does any of this still work or have all these systems been replaced upgraded etc etc.
I have taken intro classes in C, C++, Assembly (intel), and Java. Java was nice because of the ease to create programs in a windowing enviroment (and they work on X and windows hey thats cool I can code on linux, compile, and send to my instructor who uses windows). That would be the strong point of java for an introductory programming class so the students arnt worried so much about the gui part of their programm and more about the actual practice of programming which is what an intro programming class is about. I took my intro data structures class in C which I thought was quite nice because its easy to use and pretty (ok definition of) standard.
you sound a bit bitter. I am a CE major myself right now got a few more years till I am done with a BS and then maybe a masters. I really hope there is a market for me when I finish.
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I am a product of the california public school system. Class of 99 from orange glen high. I did have a teacher who introduced us to algebra in the 6th grade and even used a real algebra 1 book. But that was not the norm, he did that because he thought it would be good for us and it was. Managed to take geometry alg II, pre-calc and stats in HS, I am just finished up at the local community college and will be transferring to UCSD this fall. I got to take my 3 semesters of calc linear algebra and diffy q's and three semesters of calc based physics, I had a really great prof for te first two sems of physics (kinematics and electricty and magnetism) had to derive the e-fields of all these crazy shaped objects with diff eq. It was fun. I am a computer engineering major now at UCSD. I think the public school system lets you succeed if you really want but if you are unmotivate in junior high/HS you can get left behind real quick and it happens all the time. If you are motivated you will take the advanced classes and be just fine. just my two cents
Ok I am pretty young, 20, I read a bunch of stuff on the net and bbs about phone phreaking in the early 90's, recording certian frequency sounds and playing them over the phone to gain access to any telephone resource you want. Blue boxes brownb boxes, rainbow boxes whatever. Does any of this still work or have all these systems been replaced upgraded etc etc.
I have taken intro classes in C, C++, Assembly (intel), and Java. Java was nice because of the ease to create programs in a windowing enviroment (and they work on X and windows hey thats cool I can code on linux, compile, and send to my instructor who uses windows). That would be the strong point of java for an introductory programming class so the students arnt worried so much about the gui part of their programm and more about the actual practice of programming which is what an intro programming class is about. I took my intro data structures class in C which I thought was quite nice because its easy to use and pretty (ok definition of) standard.
at my community college our data structures class was taught in C and we had to build our has tables from scratch. etc etc
you sound a bit bitter. I am a CE major myself right now got a few more years till I am done with a BS and then maybe a masters. I really hope there is a market for me when I finish.