The trouble with letting some "hiring manager" do the deciding is that *me*, the technical person, risks getting clueless lamers who pass themselves off well. Ensure that most of the (direct) project team participates in the interview, that way you get to be sure, *and* the new employee feels more comfortable when they start - as they know they are accepted by all from day one.
I went through this same process at my current job, and yes, it was tough, but it was *great* when I actually started - just knowing there was no one unsure about "the new guy".
And the idea that any computer literate person can learn a language in a few days is clearly misguided - the syntax yes, the idioms and correct models/patterns, the traps and restrictions etc? No way. There are more languages than Java and C++, and more paradigms than OO! Basically, the more you know, the more easily you can pick up new stuff, and you're obviously capable of thinking about problems in different ways. If you just know Java or VB... then it's back to the loch with you, Nessie!
Nobody who worked for a company that came up with NT should call anyone else a "wannabe coder". Sleep through our OS design and implementation courses, did we?
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Ah, I'd forgotten about '%' jumping to the matching brace. However, this "visual mode" rubbish in vim doesn't help - what if the starting brace is not at a character further right than the longest line in the function? The *correct* answer, without resorting to vimisms, is to go to either brace, and type 'd%'. Tada! And it works for any block.
I think the point about any Microsoft "editor" being lam0r is well and truly proved, though...
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We're already in a state where many programmers are pretty much forced to use MSVC (for example) to practice their profession
I think I'd quit first. What would be the point? Do doctors get told "you must use this inferior MS scalpel because some bean-counter saw an ad for it"?
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It's far more likely that I want to delete "the foo function"
Is it possible to just "delete the current function" in the MSVC editor?
Or do you have to mouse up to the beginning, select the text area, scroll past too far, go back, and finally select "cut" from the GUI menu, and so on.
In emacs, that's just a couple of keyboard commands. And if I need it to be one, I could customize it! Don't know about vi(m), I think you'd have to rely on certain coding conventions to write a macro to do that, as its searching is an order of magnitude simpler than emacs (ie regexes only, no nested expressions).
"candylilacs",
One can't help but notice that you've posted this same troll, "I'm smarter than you goddamned geeks/engineers, and none of you can get laid!! So there!", about 5 times already, in this story alone.
It's obvious you have issues and/or are emotionally unbalanced, to come to a site titled "news for nerds" and do that with your time. Please seek counselling - don't embarrass yourself by acting like a fool in public.
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The trouble with letting some "hiring manager" do the deciding is that *me*, the technical person, risks getting clueless lamers who pass themselves off well. Ensure that most of the (direct) project team participates in the interview, that way you get to be sure, *and* the new employee feels more comfortable when they start - as they know they are accepted by all from day one. I went through this same process at my current job, and yes, it was tough, but it was *great* when I actually started - just knowing there was no one unsure about "the new guy". And the idea that any computer literate person can learn a language in a few days is clearly misguided - the syntax yes, the idioms and correct models/patterns, the traps and restrictions etc? No way. There are more languages than Java and C++, and more paradigms than OO! Basically, the more you know, the more easily you can pick up new stuff, and you're obviously capable of thinking about problems in different ways. If you just know Java or VB ... then it's back to the loch with you, Nessie!
Nobody who worked for a company that came up with NT should call anyone else a "wannabe coder". Sleep through our OS design and implementation courses, did we?
Ah, I'd forgotten about '%' jumping to the matching brace. However, this "visual mode" rubbish in vim doesn't help - what if the starting brace is not at a character further right than the longest line in the function? The *correct* answer, without resorting to vimisms, is to go to either brace, and type 'd%'. Tada! And it works for any block. I think the point about any Microsoft "editor" being lam0r is well and truly proved, though ...
We're already in a state where many programmers are pretty much forced to use MSVC (for example) to practice their profession I think I'd quit first. What would be the point? Do doctors get told "you must use this inferior MS scalpel because some bean-counter saw an ad for it"?
It's far more likely that I want to delete "the foo function" Is it possible to just "delete the current function" in the MSVC editor? Or do you have to mouse up to the beginning, select the text area, scroll past too far, go back, and finally select "cut" from the GUI menu, and so on. In emacs, that's just a couple of keyboard commands. And if I need it to be one, I could customize it! Don't know about vi(m), I think you'd have to rely on certain coding conventions to write a macro to do that, as its searching is an order of magnitude simpler than emacs (ie regexes only, no nested expressions).
"candylilacs", One can't help but notice that you've posted this same troll, "I'm smarter than you goddamned geeks/engineers, and none of you can get laid!! So there!", about 5 times already, in this story alone. It's obvious you have issues and/or are emotionally unbalanced, to come to a site titled "news for nerds" and do that with your time. Please seek counselling - don't embarrass yourself by acting like a fool in public.