The US doesn't have a parliamentarian government, that's how. Tax collections are still being made. We will be able to service our debt, there will be no default. The Democratic controlled senate can pass the bill the House sent them but they are saying if they don't get the bill that they want they are not going pass it and it's all the Republican's fault.
All House seats are up for election next November. The Democrats hope if they can make the pain last long enough the Republicans will be voted out. People's memories are short so they need to make it last until Easter.
Actually its a really nice ploy to maintain the pretense that the USA isn't a single-party state. Back in the Soviet Union there were elections, but people could only vote for candidates from one or other faction of the Communist party. In the modern USA there are elections and people can vote for candidates from one or other faction of the Demorepiblicratian party.
Yes and we call those crazy people. Lets see, a country with a LOT of nukes, a LOT of guns, a nationalistic streak a mile wide and a distrust of pretty much everybody else.
Take out the nuke part and you 'd have a situation a lot like what brought the crazy Austrian to power all them years ago, you even have someone to take the place of the Jews, those bad nasty illegals and to take the place of Poland you have South America. So I'd say be VERY careful what you wish for, as you just might get it.
Oh God please let the USA invade Mexico. PLEASE! That will make such entertaining viewing (from a suitable distance)...
Look at the context. I was talking about slavery - as it existed - in the American South. It may very well be that you can have slavery implemented without horrible crimes (though I can't imagine how this is the case and you haven't provided an example), but that is not relevant here.
Yeah and I'm sure war can be implemented without horrible crimes as well. These things are just backdrops, covers, excuses for horrible crimes, not horrible crimes in and of themselves.
Unless you'd argue that war *is* a horrible crime?
The ISS has made zero contribution to anything. It's sole purpose is to waste your tax dollars. The only positive thing to come out of it is that astronauts get to fly up there and float around, which apparently is pretty fun. Nothing useful has been done up there besides trying to get a coke machine to work in orbit and making a pretty cool cover of Space Oddity.
The worst problem with the ISS is its extremely low orbit. The reason for that is the space shuttle which coudn't go any higher. The reason for that is that the military insisted that the shuttle have wings and tailplane, making it heavy and allowing it to land in the continental united states if a problem arose on a classified mission.
So really its the USA that fucked the ISS... I hope the Chinese learn from this mistake.
. Rape outside the context of slavery is itself already a worse crime than slavery without rape. Torture outside of the context of slavery is already worse than slavery without torture.
Goodness, are we arguing about semantics? Slavery automatically includes things like rape and torture. When one refers to the horrors of slavery, they mean as it is practiced - which in the American South included rape and torture. Even individually, those are some of the worst crimes one human can commit.
No. It doesn't *automatically* include all that.
Its used as a cover and pretext for crimes, just as war is used. You can use the phrase 'horrors of war' in the same way as 'horrors of slavery' without war itself being a crime. If war were, in and of itself a crime, the USA could be in some big trouble...
Calling slavery one of the "one of the most horribly unspeakable crimes" devalues the real crimes that take place UNDER slavery.
Like saying "administering date rape drugs is one of the most horribly unspeakable crimes" when the real crime is the rape and is much worse than merely administering a sedative.
All this stuff goes on in war as well. Is war worse than slavery? equal to slavery?
Its this statement that slavery is one of the WORSE crimes that irks me. There are far far worse crimes. Rape outside the context of slavery is itself already a worse crime than slavery without rape. Torture outside of the context of slavery is already worse than slavery without torture.
To say that slavery starts out as the worse crime puts the cart ahead of the horse.
Slavery doesn't require any horrors in its implementation.
A particularly misguided libertarian who thinks forbidding slavery means the government is unjustly restricting economic activity, or a religious nut who thinks because the Bible mentions slavery it is therefore an institute approved and perhaps even mandated by his god.
Any bets?
There have been a lot of slaves who benefited greatly from their condition. There have been a lot of slaves who suffered. Slavery itself isn't the problem. Guns don't kill people; physics kills people.
Are we going to venture into speculation of a humane form of slavery, or shall we stick to reality?
I think you should definitely stick to reality. This whole "unspeakably horrible crimes" piece is just political theater. There are way worse crimes, way worse treatments than enslavement itself; forget about the things that enslavers have then gone on to do and just think about slavery itself. If you start to imagine all the nasty things that slavers have done you are thinking too deep.
For example, good old Abraham Lincoln wasn't so against slavery itself; he used it for his political theater which then allowed him to do all kinds of things. For Lincoln, slavery was just a tool.
I have to say I think that "one of the most unspeakably horrible crimes that man has ever perpetuated upon man" is just so blatantly false, there are a LOT worse things than that which people inflict on one another.
This is what they claim. You might remember from the NSA documents that it appears standard procedure to cover the source of information by creating a plausible lie.
Of course they would never tell if they have enough metadata and surveillance to identify Tor users and hidden sites. It would be in their interest to keep us using a network they can penetrate.
Creating plausible lies was one of the first things I learned as a kid. I found that my mum could usually tell when I was lieing and that detecting my lies made her feel really good about herself. So I developed a technique of 'sacrificial lies'; a lie that she could easily see through and get all puffed up about having 'found out' and then follow this with another, more plausible lie that she would accept as 'the truth' because she 'saw through me'. I was about 9 years old at the time.
I'd be surprised if the NSA weren't using techniques like this with, eg, congress...
You perspective is common, but I think flawed. We need to have law and order in a civil society, even when there are great injustices also taking place. As a thought experiment, imagine that you are living in South prior to the Civil War. Women can't vote and people are actually enslaved right in your very own town. Now you find out that a guy in town is passing off counterfeit money. Do you arrest and prosecute the guy, or do you let him go because what he is doing is a trivial crime because one of the most unspeakably horrible crimes that man has ever perpetuated upon man is occurring at the same time?
Anyway, my 2 cents...
Were white guys enslaved right in my own town? Because I'm white...
Back when I was playing with propolis resin straight from the hive, and wanted to filter the bits of dead bee out of it, I went to the pharmacy and bought a large bottle of ether. I figured I could dissolve the propolis in ether, filter it and the ether would just evaporate very easily. It worked nicely. I also got insanely high and probably almost exploded the kitchen.
When I wanted to get a small bottle of ethanol alcohol to make propolis tincture the pharmacist tried to convince me to use isopropyl alchohol instead. After asking him if he was a real pharmacist because surely a real pharmacist would know that isopropyl alcohol in a tincture would be toxic to the user he sold me the bottle of ethanol but I had to sign for it and give my address etc.
Ether; fine, no id, no sign-off just buy it and walk out. Ethanol; "who are you where do you live???"
Opiates are far more purified than Cannabinoids and far more addictive. Russia is right above Afghanistan which is the world capital of Opium production. The US equivalent of this would be legalizing of Cocaine, not marijuana.
So what the US would need, then, would be some cocaine equivalent of krokodil whose effects start with the nose and face?
Indeed. And there are others that will corrupt SSL and have enough clout to get Google to go along. The only situation where you can trust SSL is with self-signed certificates that you personally verified on both (!) ends of the connection. Otherwise, SSL may keep your little sister from snooping on your traffic, but that is it.
Where I recenty worked I was asked to build a proxy server to proxy and filter HTTPS traffic and to use group policy to distribute the wildcard certificate to the workstations. It was really easy, except for firefox which was a pain in the ass. I used Squid for the proxy server and SSL bump. It was very cool and very evil. I wanted to make sure that the CEO, who was asking for this, understood that I could use this to do whatever I liked to web pages, including his internet banking so I gave a demo where I did the old "upsidedownternet" for all SSL sites and explained that I could make it look like he had no money in his online banking or, in fact have no money. He still liked it though...
My mistake. But what i said still stands for US citizens. And why should a foreign citizen be allowed to break US laws say for spamming? They are not allowed and can be brought to justice if his/her country extradites but he/she will never be allowed to enter my country without fear of being arrested.
Noone can enter your country without fear of being arrested.
Doesn't matter. Your a US citizen your bound by US law no matter where your servers are. You allow kids on the site you got to scrub it when demanded to. having servers on other country's doesn't help US spammers or scammers. why would you be different?
OP said "for something not illegal in my country?" implying that they are not a US citizen.
So how about that then? Non US citizen, non US website in non US country, say Brazil for example.
They're breaking Gnome, not Linux. The nice thing about Linux is that you can configure everything exactly how you want it. Maybe try MATE?
Yeah, I know Gnome isn't all of Linux, but it has a lot of influence and a lot of popular programs are tied into the infrastructure. This is why so many programs seem to have forgotten the concept of cwd recently.
This is one of those problem the free market is meant to solve by itself - people are meant to stop buying iphones in response. Me, I'm perfectly happy with my Samsung Galaxy.
Is free market supposed to solve the problem of antibiotic development? Note; its a lot better for the pharmacy companies to develop new medications for chronic conditions, very very profitable. Antibiotics are very unprofitable for them. Because of this there haven't been major developments in antibiotics since the '80s.
Since antibiotics have saved countless lives, our modern world is barely imaginable without them, failure to continue developing them is one of the biggest failures of the free market and potentially devastating for the development of the human race.
I think the biggest thing to fear if you are a foreign country, foreign company, foreign government or foreign entity and are concerned about the NSA is not that info on Google or Facebook or Twitter or other US-based internet companies has been compromised by the NSA but that all that networking and cellular equipment from the likes of Cisco, HP, Juniper, Motorola Solutions and others have been compromised.
It looks like Wolfram was onto something in A New Kind of Science with his approach to replacing complex equations with simple rules.
I'd say Plato (perhaps Pythagoras) was onto something when he basically said that math is the fundamental everything of everything. Yep, the guy was wrong on the details, but what damn fine intuitions he managed to have 2400 years ago. No matter what we do we always end up referring back to him...
And perhaps Zeno and the Eleatics who maintained that "Space and time can be neither continuous nor discrete. What could they possibly be if neither continuous nor discrete, these are the only options we can conceive of. Therefore space and time must be completely different to how we conceive of them and, perhaps, don't exist at all." (this was the purpose of the 'Zenos paradoxes'.
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The US doesn't have a parliamentarian government, that's how. Tax collections are still being made. We will be able to service our debt, there will be no default. The Democratic controlled senate can pass the bill the House sent them but they are saying if they don't get the bill that they want they are not going pass it and it's all the Republican's fault.
All House seats are up for election next November. The Democrats hope if they can make the pain last long enough the Republicans will be voted out. People's memories are short so they need to make it last until Easter.
Actually its a really nice ploy to maintain the pretense that the USA isn't a single-party state. Back in the Soviet Union there were elections, but people could only vote for candidates from one or other faction of the Communist party. In the modern USA there are elections and people can vote for candidates from one or other faction of the Demorepiblicratian party.
Yes and we call those crazy people. Lets see, a country with a LOT of nukes, a LOT of guns, a nationalistic streak a mile wide and a distrust of pretty much everybody else.
Take out the nuke part and you 'd have a situation a lot like what brought the crazy Austrian to power all them years ago, you even have someone to take the place of the Jews, those bad nasty illegals and to take the place of Poland you have South America. So I'd say be VERY careful what you wish for, as you just might get it.
Oh God please let the USA invade Mexico. PLEASE! That will make such entertaining viewing (from a suitable distance)...
Sorry i meant to say only allow su to root only from the physical console
I didn't even know it was possible to limit su to a specific terminal. I suppose with SELinux it would be, or via pam.
I'm sure with SELinux you could permit su access only from the console (yours or the remote NSA one).
Anddd you didn't post this anonymously.
Because posting anonymously on /. protects privacy (from 3-letter US agencies).
No. It doesn't *automatically* include all that.
Look at the context. I was talking about slavery - as it existed - in the American South. It may very well be that you can have slavery implemented without horrible crimes (though I can't imagine how this is the case and you haven't provided an example), but that is not relevant here.
Yeah and I'm sure war can be implemented without horrible crimes as well. These things are just backdrops, covers, excuses for horrible crimes, not horrible crimes in and of themselves.
Unless you'd argue that war *is* a horrible crime?
The ISS has made zero contribution to anything. It's sole purpose is to waste your tax dollars. The only positive thing to come out of it is that astronauts get to fly up there and float around, which apparently is pretty fun. Nothing useful has been done up there besides trying to get a coke machine to work in orbit and making a pretty cool cover of Space Oddity.
The worst problem with the ISS is its extremely low orbit. The reason for that is the space shuttle which coudn't go any higher. The reason for that is that the military insisted that the shuttle have wings and tailplane, making it heavy and allowing it to land in the continental united states if a problem arose on a classified mission.
So really its the USA that fucked the ISS... I hope the Chinese learn from this mistake.
. Rape outside the context of slavery is itself already a worse crime than slavery without rape. Torture outside of the context of slavery is already worse than slavery without torture.
Goodness, are we arguing about semantics? Slavery automatically includes things like rape and torture. When one refers to the horrors of slavery, they mean as it is practiced - which in the American South included rape and torture. Even individually, those are some of the worst crimes one human can commit.
No. It doesn't *automatically* include all that.
Its used as a cover and pretext for crimes, just as war is used. You can use the phrase 'horrors of war' in the same way as 'horrors of slavery' without war itself being a crime. If war were, in and of itself a crime, the USA could be in some big trouble...
Calling slavery one of the "one of the most horribly unspeakable crimes" devalues the real crimes that take place UNDER slavery.
Like saying "administering date rape drugs is one of the most horribly unspeakable crimes" when the real crime is the rape and is much worse than merely administering a sedative.
All this stuff goes on in war as well. Is war worse than slavery? equal to slavery?
Its this statement that slavery is one of the WORSE crimes that irks me. There are far far worse crimes. Rape outside the context of slavery is itself already a worse crime than slavery without rape. Torture outside of the context of slavery is already worse than slavery without torture.
To say that slavery starts out as the worse crime puts the cart ahead of the horse.
A particularly misguided libertarian who thinks forbidding slavery means the government is unjustly restricting economic activity, or a religious nut who thinks because the Bible mentions slavery it is therefore an institute approved and perhaps even mandated by his god.
Any bets?
There have been a lot of slaves who benefited greatly from their condition. There have been a lot of slaves who suffered. Slavery itself isn't the problem. Guns don't kill people; physics kills people.
Are we going to venture into speculation of a humane form of slavery, or shall we stick to reality?
I think you should definitely stick to reality. This whole "unspeakably horrible crimes" piece is just political theater. There are way worse crimes, way worse treatments than enslavement itself; forget about the things that enslavers have then gone on to do and just think about slavery itself. If you start to imagine all the nasty things that slavers have done you are thinking too deep.
For example, good old Abraham Lincoln wasn't so against slavery itself; he used it for his political theater which then allowed him to do all kinds of things. For Lincoln, slavery was just a tool.
Slavery involves a lot of those. I'd be curious to know what horrors you think weren't a part of slavery.
Slavery doesn't require any horrors in its implementation.
I have to say I think that "one of the most unspeakably horrible crimes that man has ever perpetuated upon man" is just so blatantly false, there are a LOT worse things than that which people inflict on one another.
This is what they claim. You might remember from the NSA documents that it appears standard procedure to cover the source of information by creating a plausible lie.
Of course they would never tell if they have enough metadata and surveillance to identify Tor users and hidden sites. It would be in their interest to keep us using a network they can penetrate.
Creating plausible lies was one of the first things I learned as a kid. I found that my mum could usually tell when I was lieing and that detecting my lies made her feel really good about herself. So I developed a technique of 'sacrificial lies'; a lie that she could easily see through and get all puffed up about having 'found out' and then follow this with another, more plausible lie that she would accept as 'the truth' because she 'saw through me'. I was about 9 years old at the time.
I'd be surprised if the NSA weren't using techniques like this with, eg, congress...
You perspective is common, but I think flawed. We need to have law and order in a civil society, even when there are great injustices also taking place. As a thought experiment, imagine that you are living in South prior to the Civil War. Women can't vote and people are actually enslaved right in your very own town. Now you find out that a guy in town is passing off counterfeit money. Do you arrest and prosecute the guy, or do you let him go because what he is doing is a trivial crime because one of the most unspeakably horrible crimes that man has ever perpetuated upon man is occurring at the same time?
Anyway, my 2 cents...
Were white guys enslaved right in my own town? Because I'm white...
Back when I was playing with propolis resin straight from the hive, and wanted to filter the bits of dead bee out of it, I went to the pharmacy and bought a large bottle of ether. I figured I could dissolve the propolis in ether, filter it and the ether would just evaporate very easily. It worked nicely. I also got insanely high and probably almost exploded the kitchen.
When I wanted to get a small bottle of ethanol alcohol to make propolis tincture the pharmacist tried to convince me to use isopropyl alchohol instead. After asking him if he was a real pharmacist because surely a real pharmacist would know that isopropyl alcohol in a tincture would be toxic to the user he sold me the bottle of ethanol but I had to sign for it and give my address etc.
Ether; fine, no id, no sign-off just buy it and walk out.
Ethanol; "who are you where do you live???"
LOL
(this was New Zealand in the 1980s)
Opiates are far more purified than Cannabinoids and far more addictive. Russia is right above Afghanistan which is the world capital of Opium production. The US equivalent of this would be legalizing of Cocaine, not marijuana.
So what the US would need, then, would be some cocaine equivalent of krokodil whose effects start with the nose and face?
Indeed. And there are others that will corrupt SSL and have enough clout to get Google to go along. The only situation where you can trust SSL is with self-signed certificates that you personally verified on both (!) ends of the connection. Otherwise, SSL may keep your little sister from snooping on your traffic, but that is it.
*Your* little sister doesn't work at the NSA.
Where I recenty worked I was asked to build a proxy server to proxy and filter HTTPS traffic and to use group policy to distribute the wildcard certificate to the workstations. It was really easy, except for firefox which was a pain in the ass. I used Squid for the proxy server and SSL bump. It was very cool and very evil. I wanted to make sure that the CEO, who was asking for this, understood that I could use this to do whatever I liked to web pages, including his internet banking so I gave a demo where I did the old "upsidedownternet" for all SSL sites and explained that I could make it look like he had no money in his online banking or, in fact have no money. He still liked it though...
My mistake. But what i said still stands for US citizens. And why should a foreign citizen be allowed to break US laws say for spamming? They are not allowed and can be brought to justice if his/her country extradites but he/she will never be allowed to enter my country without fear of being arrested.
Noone can enter your country without fear of being arrested.
Doesn't matter. Your a US citizen your bound by US law no matter where your servers are. You allow kids on the site you got to scrub it when demanded to. having servers on other country's doesn't help US spammers or scammers. why would you be different?
OP said "for something not illegal in my country?" implying that they are not a US citizen.
So how about that then? Non US citizen, non US website in non US country, say Brazil for example.
They're breaking Gnome, not Linux. The nice thing about Linux is that you can configure everything exactly how you want it. Maybe try MATE?
Yeah, I know Gnome isn't all of Linux, but it has a lot of influence and a lot of popular programs are tied into the infrastructure. This is why so many programs seem to have forgotten the concept of cwd recently.
Other than that, I'll stick with FVWM.
A direct descendant of TWM!
It says LIGHTNING and they AREN'T expecting a shock??
This is one of those problem the free market is meant to solve by itself - people are meant to stop buying iphones in response. Me, I'm perfectly happy with my Samsung Galaxy.
Is free market supposed to solve the problem of antibiotic development? Note; its a lot better for the pharmacy companies to develop new medications for chronic conditions, very very profitable. Antibiotics are very unprofitable for them. Because of this there haven't been major developments in antibiotics since the '80s.
Since antibiotics have saved countless lives, our modern world is barely imaginable without them, failure to continue developing them is one of the biggest failures of the free market and potentially devastating for the development of the human race.
free market fails.
I think the biggest thing to fear if you are a foreign country, foreign company, foreign government or foreign entity and are concerned about the NSA is not that info on Google or Facebook or Twitter or other US-based internet companies has been compromised by the NSA but that all that networking and cellular equipment from the likes of Cisco, HP, Juniper, Motorola Solutions and others have been compromised.
And people worried about Huawei...
It looks like Wolfram was onto something in A New Kind of Science with his approach to replacing complex equations with simple rules.
I'd say Plato (perhaps Pythagoras) was onto something when he basically said that math is the fundamental everything of everything. Yep, the guy was wrong on the details, but what damn fine intuitions he managed to have 2400 years ago. No matter what we do we always end up referring back to him...
And perhaps Zeno and the Eleatics who maintained that "Space and time can be neither continuous nor discrete. What could they possibly be if neither continuous nor discrete, these are the only options we can conceive of. Therefore space and time must be completely different to how we conceive of them and, perhaps, don't exist at all." (this was the purpose of the 'Zenos paradoxes'.