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  1. Does not take weeks to get off black hole lists. on Internet Vigilante Justice, SPAM, and Copyrights · · Score: 1

    Just to weight` in with my expierence -- I'm a sysadmin who does lots of contract work, and I have to fix open relays for people all the time.

    My experience is that most RBL lists all you have to do is (a) fix the server or cut off all outside world access to it, and smarthost it through something else (in order to buy time :), and (b) report it closed for retesting. ORDB usually takes less than a day, MAPS has been quick (so long as the relay is gone. Never dealt with maps over a mailing list issue though). The guys at monkeys can be really rude, but again, never had a problem with long delays once the problems been fixed.

    In short, I've not seen this "two week" thing, and I know that band-aid or not, I am *not* removing black list filters from my servers, because I tried that once! (yeek! You should of seen it start to pile up.) As for "making it illegal", well, I doubt you are going to get every country in every world to buy into the same deal, and what the heck is enforcement going to look like? The current laws as they are evolving already look really scary enough, thanks (hey, if they can make it illegal to inspect your own property, why not spam, right?? ::SARCASTIC::).

    Please remember folks, that "U.S.A" isn't a synonym for "the whole world" (Triva: India has more *vegitarians* than there are citizans of the US! :). Anyway, I'm holding out most hope for technical solutions combined with good AUPs and ISPs to make SPAM less and less practical.