I don't know about others, but I don't dislike organizations because of what they believe. I dislike what they believe. Same thing with people. Otherwise, I would have practically no friends (wait a second...)
You only mentioned c14 dating, so that's all I mentioned:)
You still can't c14 date past 30 000 years, there's too little to date.
Petrified pine cones that show tree evolution. that's a new one. And how does it show tree evolution?
Oh, and 5000 years is still in the 6000 year range..:). Also, considering the firmament and the (probable) increased oxygen and air pressure due to it, Plants/humans could grow alot faster... think about that. double air pressure, double oxygen levels. Hey, I'll never have to worry about cramps in cross country again!
i suggest visiting this site, but, you've probably already seen it,
http://www.drdino.com
All the guy does is give seminars on creation vs evolution, and does debates. It's fairly basic -- it just goes a little bit past the basics. You can of course, attempt to e-mail him, although, he probably won't reply if your hostile -- he gets alot of hate mail (as you could probably guess).
Considering that time also had to be created, I think that since you require Time to have a begining, then "In the beginning" would refer to when time was created. before the beginning would refer to before time was created. Time is also not a constant -- it's a physical property. The faster you go, the slower time goes. Well, doesn't go slower for you, but time will go faster for things that aren't travelling as fast as you. This was proven with atomic clocks flying around the world in different directions. I don't have the link, so I can't post it, but I would if I did.
Heaven is somewhat ambigous also, and probably better translated as "firmament" which is closer to sky or atmosphere then universe in my book. But it can be used to mean everything in the universe that isn't matter. But later when it discusses seperating the waters from the waters suggests "atmosphere" to me more then "universe".
There are actually 3 firmaments or heavens in the bible. one is the space between earth and the upper atmosphere, the other is space (outside the atmosphere), and the other is the spritiual heaven.
However, the direct context of day is established earlier when the seperating of light and dark made for the "morning and the evening of the first day." So we see clearly that the 24 hour day as we know it from the periodic solar occulting of the earth wasn't established until the fourth day. And for the next few days, you I see nothing to give the impression that God adapted the earth's time table as he mentions creating seasons and generations of animals.
hmm. that's funny. P;ants were created on the third day. You'd think they would kinda need the sun in order to live. My guess is that it would be a 24 hour day.
And about that last part -- yeas, somepeople do that. They interpret the bible how they want to believe it. But that's when you run into contradictions. That's why I (try) not to base something on one verse alone. In case I interpret it wrongly. If i instead read several verses that say the same thing, then I can be sure of it. This is where JW's and Mormons etc. have their problems.
Did you ever consider it possible that they decided to use the same names? You see it happen today -- people are named after relatives.Two different people, same name. Happens quite alot.
C14 has a halflife of aprox. 5700 years. Because of this, it has a max of 30 000 years for accurate dating. HOWEVER, there is nothing before aprox. 2000 bc with known ages to compare findings. Also, the amount of C14 entering the atmosphere and the amount decaying has not equaled out yet, meaning that there is more C14 being deposited today than there was 6000 years ago, making it appear older than it is. Pressure from the flood has nothing to do with carbon dating.
They also said "a flicker of light". hrm. how do they know that it isn't a really small light source that's closer?
Oh, and the bible says it's 6000 years old. Create a timeline with the ages of Adam, Moses, etc. and their births. i.e. Adam had a son named at x years old, had a son at y years old, etc.
No, the canopy of water above the earth could not distort the light, or whatever that was about.
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I don't know about others, but I don't dislike organizations because of what they believe. I dislike what they believe. Same thing with people. Otherwise, I would have practically no friends (wait a second ...)
You only mentioned c14 dating, so that's all I mentioned :)
.. :). Also, considering the firmament and the (probable) increased oxygen and air pressure due to it, Plants/humans could grow alot faster ... think about that. double air pressure, double oxygen levels. Hey, I'll never have to worry about cramps in cross country again!
You still can't c14 date past 30 000 years, there's too little to date.
Petrified pine cones that show tree evolution. that's a new one. And how does it show tree evolution?
Oh, and 5000 years is still in the 6000 year range
i suggest visiting this site, but, you've probably already seen it,
http://www.drdino.com
All the guy does is give seminars on creation vs evolution, and does debates. It's fairly basic -- it just goes a little bit past the basics. You can of course, attempt to e-mail him, although, he probably won't reply if your hostile -- he gets alot of hate mail (as you could probably guess).
Considering that time also had to be created, I think that since you require Time to have a begining, then "In the beginning" would refer to when time was created. before the beginning would refer to before time was created. Time is also not a constant -- it's a physical property. The faster you go, the slower time goes. Well, doesn't go slower for you, but time will go faster for things that aren't travelling as fast as you. This was proven with atomic clocks flying around the world in different directions. I don't have the link, so I can't post it, but I would if I did. Heaven is somewhat ambigous also, and probably better translated as "firmament" which is closer to sky or atmosphere then universe in my book. But it can be used to mean everything in the universe that isn't matter. But later when it discusses seperating the waters from the waters suggests "atmosphere" to me more then "universe". There are actually 3 firmaments or heavens in the bible. one is the space between earth and the upper atmosphere, the other is space (outside the atmosphere), and the other is the spritiual heaven. However, the direct context of day is established earlier when the seperating of light and dark made for the "morning and the evening of the first day." So we see clearly that the 24 hour day as we know it from the periodic solar occulting of the earth wasn't established until the fourth day. And for the next few days, you I see nothing to give the impression that God adapted the earth's time table as he mentions creating seasons and generations of animals. hmm. that's funny. P;ants were created on the third day. You'd think they would kinda need the sun in order to live. My guess is that it would be a 24 hour day. And about that last part -- yeas, somepeople do that. They interpret the bible how they want to believe it. But that's when you run into contradictions. That's why I (try) not to base something on one verse alone. In case I interpret it wrongly. If i instead read several verses that say the same thing, then I can be sure of it. This is where JW's and Mormons etc. have their problems.
Did you ever consider it possible that they decided to use the same names? You see it happen today -- people are named after relatives.Two different people, same name. Happens quite alot.
Learn how C14 Dating works.
C14 has a halflife of aprox. 5700 years. Because of this, it has a max of 30 000 years for accurate dating. HOWEVER, there is nothing before aprox. 2000 bc with known ages to compare findings. Also, the amount of C14 entering the atmosphere and the amount decaying has not equaled out yet, meaning that there is more C14 being deposited today than there was 6000 years ago, making it appear older than it is. Pressure from the flood has nothing to do with carbon dating.
They also said "a flicker of light". hrm. how do they know that it isn't a really small light source that's closer?
Oh, and the bible says it's 6000 years old. Create a timeline with the ages of Adam, Moses, etc. and their births. i.e. Adam had a son named at x years old, had a son at y years old, etc.
No, the canopy of water above the earth could not distort the light, or whatever that was about.