I remember when people were claiming that Linux would never succeed on the server for pretty much the same reasons. Yet now we see Linux server sales topping $1 billion, with growth of 42.6 percent.
Your numbers aren't quite right.
"Linux server revenues rose 35.6 percent to $1.3bn and accounted for nearly 10 percent of all server sales worldwide. Linux server shipments grew 29.1 percent, to 326,000 units, year-on-year."
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/servers/0,3902036 3,39189458,00.htm/
Now, thats pretty impressive, but considering Windows Servers also increased by 15.5% for a total of 4.6bn, it's not that impressive.
Windows is MUCH
harder to use for day-to-day work than Linux. Common tasks like marking up photos or chatting on AIM require finding
and installing lots of third-party software. All of these have a long, scary EULA, most have popups galore and take up a
portion of my main view with intrusive ads.
As opposed to the large and often undocumented third party software that a Linux system requires to do the same? Here is a hint, all those apps that Fedora installs is not part of Linux, they are 3rd party. As for the EULA's/popups/ads, EULA's are basic, the same could be said for Linux software, but in a different way. To be totally safe with what a developer is handing you you should really go over every line of code, for each package, which will take a factor of time more than reading a EULA. Popups and ads are a non-issue for anyone with 1/4 a brain on either system.
And oh, forget about trying to play downloaded video files! Granted, I haven't used Windows as my main system
for several years, but when I get an AVI, MOV, RM, or whatever video file in Linux, I just play it with mplayer,
don't care what codec, it just works. I have no clue how to get a video player in Windows to have the same ease
of use, and not for lack of trying.
Well, considering WMP comes with Windows, and just like in Windows you have to install codecs in mplayer, you do realize those codecs Mplayer are using aren't put there by the bit fairies right? The ease of playing media is about the same. That is until you start to compare on embedded media. To play an avi file in a web browser on Windows I install a codec. Can you tell me how to do it on Linux? Oh thats right, there are as many different ways as there are distrobutions.
I won't even address in detail the disconnect of people who want to "just drive" their computers being faced with
an hour a day of defragmenting, temporary internet file purging, virus defs updating and scanning, malware defs
updating and scanning, etc etc ad nauseum, except to say, God bless apt-get dist-upgrade.
You don't need to defrag every day, you don't need to purge temporary internet files, don't run any software from places you don't trust(you know, like you do in linux) and you wont get a virus, and actually pay attention when you surf instead of hitting the enter button blindly and you wont get spyware. Linux does not cure stupidity, but I guess it lets you hide it better.
I hope you're not so closed into your own little world so as not to be able to realize that there are people who can not be satisfied by a click-here-I-tell-you-what-you-need bunchacrap. It's a pretty high ball to think everybody+dog is like you out there. If so, I'd rather be on Mars alone with the breaking rovers.
And on the same note, I hope you(and apparently a good majority of the OSS world) are not closed into your own little world to realize that not everyone needs 5 billion options, 4000 text editors, 5 million different ways to skin the same cat, they just want to "click-here-I-tell-you-what-you-need-bunchacrap" and get thier work done, end user and programmer alike.
On another note, I find it absolutly hilarious that the OSS/Linux community gripes and moans about Microsoft's inadherance to standards, when they themselves can't even follow a community developed standard as simple as the FHS. Pot, this is kettle.
The point is he shouldn't have to port at all. The base Linux system should be consistent between all distrobutions, with the value of each distro coming from support/package management/community, not that they put libfoo in/usr/lib and not/usr/share/lib
And it is this reason why I see Mono to be a great tool, it expands on the CORBA and cross language bindings to make them easier to use.
Instead of using hacks to get multiple languages to work together, with the CLR you can write different parts of an application in languages that best suit them, and easily (Key word easily) integrate them through the CLR.
Every language has its place in the world, they are afterall just tools to be used. With Mono and the CLR technology that they, and MS have improved upon, the future for all of them is bright.
Again, nothing you stated is because of Microsoft's direct influence.
I'll stay away from the DMCA, I think it's a good idea that is poorly worded and written by people who don't understand the ramifications of what they are writing, but anyway. MS did not create the DMCA, the government did. By creating software that follows the DMCA MS is not condoning it, just following the law.
As to the MPAA, of course they(MS) will do thier part in implementing the standard, it's a perfectly ethical and wanted piece of software, until the law says otherwise. And of course they are going to push thier format (WMA) with DRM, the industry wants it, BUT what it also does is allow companies that don't need to put DRM on every piece of property to have a common base format that can be played right next to the DRM'd property. What would you rather have, 15 different formats all needing separate players?
P2P has nothing to do with DRM, and there are plenty of free P2P applications for Windows out there, just because MS doesn't make one means it's evil now? Wait, if they did make one then they would be trying to extend their monopoly right?
As to the DVD ripping, again, you can rip all the DVD's you want in Windows, I don't know what planet you are living on. As to why MS doesn't make one, see above, there are plenty out there.
You people need to get your views straight, one day you want MS to not make all the software, the next day you want them to make all the software. Can I get a calandar for when you plan on changing your opinions?
It is a double standard, mostly because I think RMS is out of touch with reality.
Anyone can create MS Word, all the algorithms, techniques, and languages that MS used to create Word are free, open, and available to anyone to use at will. What is not free, and what should not *have* to be free, is the creativity and work of the coders/designers who used those basic tools in a specific way to create MS Word.
Much like art is nothing more than the creativity and expression of an artist through the use of basic, open, and free techniques, an application is nothing more than the creativity and expression of a programmer through the use of basic, open, and free techniques.
He didn't address that issue because that wasn't the point of the article. You do understand that post installation security is a separate and totally different beast than pre and during installation?
Or is it you are afraid to admit he has legitimate points?
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Explain to me exactly how *any* language is Open Source. Please, I really want to know. How does any language satisfy the 10 criteria http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php
Next time you decide to spout off at the mouth, have an original thought.
1. This is an upgrade roadmap, yet they assume you have Linux installed. Hmmmm.
2. This is a developer upgrade roadmap, yet they say nothing of development tools or compilers available. Hmmm
3. They pimp Webmin like its the 2nd coming of jebus, and Caldera(SCO) is one of the largest supporters and the first company to use Webmin. Hmmm
These are not the new drivers, the 3.7.0 drivers were released in December. They released 3.7.1 drivers on the 2nd, and after 2 months of work this is what they had for thier changelog
Added support for the Radeon9800XT
Oh, and they broke them for almost all AMD users. After 4 days or so they removed them from the servers saying "we will have new ones up in a few days"
>>What if I had a band that made a recording indistinguishable from, say, track 10 on the new Pearl Jam CD and distributed it?
Then your band would be in violation of copyright law. Not of the recording but of infringing on Pearl Jam's copyright on their song.
>>What if I create an MP3 file of a Notorious BIG track with a bitrate so low that it were no longer recognizable?
If you create it and share it, and someone who doesn't, by today's laws, own the right to hear it, then it is illegal. Recognizability has no bearing on copyright law. (Read the original cases on Sampling)
>>As for downloading music: what if I claimed to have a band that could play all of Pearl Jam's songs, distributed real Pearl Jam songs labelled as such and someone downloaded them thinking they were just really good covers?
If the downloader searched for Pearl Jam, intended to download Pearl Jam, then they had motive to break the law. If they searched for another band or a public domain item and got Pearl Jam, as long as they delete it, if they don't have the rights to it, then they are safe.
>>>Finally, this may be an exclusive Canadian thing (IANAL), but I was under the impression that if it was evident that the person committing a crime (assuming there is a crime here at all) did not know that what they were doing was illegal, they could not be punished for it in the normal sense. The official record here seems to blatantly state that the girl thought what she was doing was legal.
Ignorance is not exemption, not in the US and not in Canada.
The solution to this whole thing is really simple. Either A) Stop fucking stealing songs until the law is changed. or B)Download all you want, and then accept your punishment, IE court time, and use it to change the law. This pussy crap of "Well I don't think the law is right so everyone who likes it is evil" is bullshit. You break the law, whether you agree with it or not, means you still break the law, be a man, take your punishment and use it to get it changed.
So the less fortunate have the right to break the law? Cool, I'll go break my leg and rob a bank, err sorry "Copy all the money in the bank". No one will be missing any money then will they?
Uncomfortable or not, breaking the law is breaking the law. And no, you don't have to agree with the law either.
Ok, instead of the ISP pressing charges and you get 1 charge, how about they have everyone on your circuit that you are stealing bandwidth from charge you? Average circuits have 150+ people. 1 charge of theft or 150, you decide.
When he loses on top of repaying all the legal and travel expenses of the people he is sueing, he shoulc legally have to change his name to Ima Asshat. No one with this level of stupidity deserves a normal name.
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Your numbers aren't quite right. "Linux server revenues rose 35.6 percent to $1.3bn and accounted for nearly 10 percent of all server sales worldwide. Linux server shipments grew 29.1 percent, to 326,000 units, year-on-year." http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/servers/0,3902036 3,39189458,00.htm/
Now, thats pretty impressive, but considering Windows Servers also increased by 15.5% for a total of 4.6bn, it's not that impressive.
As opposed to the large and often undocumented third party software that a Linux system requires to do the same? Here is a hint, all those apps that Fedora installs is not part of Linux, they are 3rd party. As for the EULA's/popups/ads, EULA's are basic, the same could be said for Linux software, but in a different way. To be totally safe with what a developer is handing you you should really go over every line of code, for each package, which will take a factor of time more than reading a EULA. Popups and ads are a non-issue for anyone with 1/4 a brain on either system.
And oh, forget about trying to play downloaded video files! Granted, I haven't used Windows as my main system for several years, but when I get an AVI, MOV, RM, or whatever video file in Linux, I just play it with mplayer, don't care what codec, it just works. I have no clue how to get a video player in Windows to have the same ease of use, and not for lack of trying.
Well, considering WMP comes with Windows, and just like in Windows you have to install codecs in mplayer, you do realize those codecs Mplayer are using aren't put there by the bit fairies right? The ease of playing media is about the same. That is until you start to compare on embedded media. To play an avi file in a web browser on Windows I install a codec. Can you tell me how to do it on Linux? Oh thats right, there are as many different ways as there are distrobutions.
I won't even address in detail the disconnect of people who want to "just drive" their computers being faced with an hour a day of defragmenting, temporary internet file purging, virus defs updating and scanning, malware defs updating and scanning, etc etc ad nauseum, except to say, God bless apt-get dist-upgrade.
You don't need to defrag every day, you don't need to purge temporary internet files, don't run any software from places you don't trust(you know, like you do in linux) and you wont get a virus, and actually pay attention when you surf instead of hitting the enter button blindly and you wont get spyware. Linux does not cure stupidity, but I guess it lets you hide it better.
And on the same note, I hope you(and apparently a good majority of the OSS world) are not closed into your own little world to realize that not everyone needs 5 billion options, 4000 text editors, 5 million different ways to skin the same cat, they just want to "click-here-I-tell-you-what-you-need-bunchacrap" and get thier work done, end user and programmer alike.
On another note, I find it absolutly hilarious that the OSS/Linux community gripes and moans about Microsoft's inadherance to standards, when they themselves can't even follow a community developed standard as simple as the FHS. Pot, this is kettle.
The point is he shouldn't have to port at all. The base Linux system should be consistent between all distrobutions, with the value of each distro coming from support/package management/community, not that they put libfoo in /usr/lib and not /usr/share/lib
Instead of using hacks to get multiple languages to work together, with the CLR you can write different parts of an application in languages that best suit them, and easily (Key word easily) integrate them through the CLR.
Every language has its place in the world, they are afterall just tools to be used. With Mono and the CLR technology that they, and MS have improved upon, the future for all of them is bright.
Who cares what he used a year ago? The question was what he payed for his current setup.
Once in a Lifetime?
Well, then he must do it up well....
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/default.htm/
Some peoples children, really.
Again, nothing you stated is because of Microsoft's direct influence.
I'll stay away from the DMCA, I think it's a good idea that is poorly worded and written by people who don't understand the ramifications of what they are writing, but anyway. MS did not create the DMCA, the government did. By creating software that follows the DMCA MS is not condoning it, just following the law.
As to the MPAA, of course they(MS) will do thier part in implementing the standard, it's a perfectly ethical and wanted piece of software, until the law says otherwise. And of course they are going to push thier format (WMA) with DRM, the industry wants it, BUT what it also does is allow companies that don't need to put DRM on every piece of property to have a common base format that can be played right next to the DRM'd property. What would you rather have, 15 different formats all needing separate players?
P2P has nothing to do with DRM, and there are plenty of free P2P applications for Windows out there, just because MS doesn't make one means it's evil now? Wait, if they did make one then they would be trying to extend their monopoly right? As to the DVD ripping, again, you can rip all the DVD's you want in Windows, I don't know what planet you are living on. As to why MS doesn't make one, see above, there are plenty out there. You people need to get your views straight, one day you want MS to not make all the software, the next day you want them to make all the software. Can I get a calandar for when you plan on changing your opinions?
Doing what your customers want, go figure.
Guess what, Windows will let you. What he is saying is this:
We didn't put the DRM on the content, the provider did, what we are doing is providing the way to get to the content.
Microsoft didn't put the DRM on your Shrek video, but they did give you the software to get at it.
It is a double standard, mostly because I think RMS is out of touch with reality. Anyone can create MS Word, all the algorithms, techniques, and languages that MS used to create Word are free, open, and available to anyone to use at will. What is not free, and what should not *have* to be free, is the creativity and work of the coders/designers who used those basic tools in a specific way to create MS Word. Much like art is nothing more than the creativity and expression of an artist through the use of basic, open, and free techniques, an application is nothing more than the creativity and expression of a programmer through the use of basic, open, and free techniques.
He didn't address that issue because that wasn't the point of the article. You do understand that post installation security is a separate and totally different beast than pre and during installation? Or is it you are afraid to admit he has legitimate points?
Explain to me exactly how *any* language is Open Source. Please, I really want to know. How does any language satisfy the 10 criteria http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php Next time you decide to spout off at the mouth, have an original thought.
1. This is an upgrade roadmap, yet they assume you have Linux installed. Hmmmm. 2. This is a developer upgrade roadmap, yet they say nothing of development tools or compilers available. Hmmm 3. They pimp Webmin like its the 2nd coming of jebus, and Caldera(SCO) is one of the largest supporters and the first company to use Webmin. Hmmm
These are not the new drivers, the 3.7.0 drivers were released in December. They released 3.7.1 drivers on the 2nd, and after 2 months of work this is what they had for thier changelog Added support for the Radeon9800XT Oh, and they broke them for almost all AMD users. After 4 days or so they removed them from the servers saying "we will have new ones up in a few days"
>>What if I had a band that made a recording indistinguishable from, say, track 10 on the new Pearl Jam CD and distributed it? Then your band would be in violation of copyright law. Not of the recording but of infringing on Pearl Jam's copyright on their song. >>What if I create an MP3 file of a Notorious BIG track with a bitrate so low that it were no longer recognizable? If you create it and share it, and someone who doesn't, by today's laws, own the right to hear it, then it is illegal. Recognizability has no bearing on copyright law. (Read the original cases on Sampling) >>As for downloading music: what if I claimed to have a band that could play all of Pearl Jam's songs, distributed real Pearl Jam songs labelled as such and someone downloaded them thinking they were just really good covers? If the downloader searched for Pearl Jam, intended to download Pearl Jam, then they had motive to break the law. If they searched for another band or a public domain item and got Pearl Jam, as long as they delete it, if they don't have the rights to it, then they are safe. >>>Finally, this may be an exclusive Canadian thing (IANAL), but I was under the impression that if it was evident that the person committing a crime (assuming there is a crime here at all) did not know that what they were doing was illegal, they could not be punished for it in the normal sense. The official record here seems to blatantly state that the girl thought what she was doing was legal. Ignorance is not exemption, not in the US and not in Canada. The solution to this whole thing is really simple. Either A) Stop fucking stealing songs until the law is changed. or B)Download all you want, and then accept your punishment, IE court time, and use it to change the law. This pussy crap of "Well I don't think the law is right so everyone who likes it is evil" is bullshit. You break the law, whether you agree with it or not, means you still break the law, be a man, take your punishment and use it to get it changed.
So the less fortunate have the right to break the law? Cool, I'll go break my leg and rob a bank, err sorry "Copy all the money in the bank". No one will be missing any money then will they? Uncomfortable or not, breaking the law is breaking the law. And no, you don't have to agree with the law either.
Ok, instead of the ISP pressing charges and you get 1 charge, how about they have everyone on your circuit that you are stealing bandwidth from charge you? Average circuits have 150+ people. 1 charge of theft or 150, you decide.
When he loses on top of repaying all the legal and travel expenses of the people he is sueing, he shoulc legally have to change his name to Ima Asshat. No one with this level of stupidity deserves a normal name.