The people who spend like you describe don't stay rich long. Most rich folks are only spending a small percentage of their annual income.
You have to report illegal income. To not report is how they get you. That is how they got Capone.
Consider this, if I make $100k a year I might spend half that, the guy who makes $40 spends it all. That means I only get taxed on 50% of my income. Having money in the bank has utility. It improves your chances of getting a loan, it can be used later, it gets interest and most of all it is freedom.
I could quit my job right now and be fine for more than a year because of that money.
Even worse, this scheme encourages hoarding and discourages spending. Killing demand sure will be great for the economy.
He spends a trivial some compared to his annual salary on that stuff.
I said me, I make a lot more than $30k a year. I was discussing the percent of income that was taxed, not the overall rate.
That invested money is untaxed as far as he is concerned. Often it is not used for any of those things, since loans do not in and of themselves create demand. People spending money creates demand, which your little tax scheme will kill.
I am not interested in harming anyone, merely paying for the things our society needs in a fair manner.
I am not a sore loser, I am happy for them. I just want them to pay their fair share. That is how bills get paid.
Investment DOES NOT FUCKING CREATE JOBS, only demand can do that. This is more supply side stupidity. No matter how cheap loans are if no one is buying widgets there is no money to be made in selling widgets thus no jobs making widgets.
The billionaire gets far more services. He needs police to protect his assets, he needs the force of law to protect his interests, he uses roads, airports and the like far more.
A progressive tax system is as close to fair as one can get.
The rich constantly deprive the middle of property to benefit, subsidies to companies are just that. So are patents and copyright.
The billionaire easily gets 1000x more services. Not only does he have assets for the police to protect, he has property and his assets and business use more services.
You last point is pointless. Even if we exempt the first $30k in spending you are still talking about a system where I could be taxed on 50% of my income, while someone making $30 million a year is taxed on 1% of his.
At some point you are talking about taxing some people on a much higher percentage of their income than others.
Personally I would much rather see a simpler tax code.
Under X $0 tax, over $X Y%. All income is income, not matter if you worked at the steel mill, sold drugs, got it for christmas from grandma or made it on the stock market.
So if you were under no legal obligation you would pay your taxes?
That is what you are suggesting.
My point is having a modern civilization costs money, roads, schools, plumbing that shit ain't cheap. So we have to pay, some people don't want to but they still want to use those services. So sadly force is used to compel them. I would be totally fine with exile being used instead.
Nor am I a slacker, this week I was on call and got to be here once already at 3am when a server room cooling unit failed. I always do top rate work, and will for anyone that buys my time. I am only stating I give my current employer no better work than I would give any employer.
My Workstation ATX case is tall enough I don't need to put it on a stand to reach ports and disk drives. A monitor has to be visible, the case does not.
I should take your silly claims as insults and leave you without any assistance. I am sadly a better person than that and will instead try to help you find what you are looking for.
The following should be quite close, you may need to select a different model on that website.
My computer case has had the fans upgraded, since it did not come with fans and actually does hold a RAID array of SSDs. So a sight more modern than yours. You may claim that little raid box is no faffing about. Until it dies and you can't read those disks. Using linux software raid I can just move the drives to a new machine. It outperforms hardware Raid unless you are spending thousands on the controller as well. I know I tested it vs such controllers I have at work.
No, you can install windows 7 directly on a mac mini. Replacing OSX.
Your request is reasonable, but there is no real market for it so it likely does not exist. Anything lower spec is not going to have an i7 you wanted. Unless again you are willing to do the work yourself.
Nothing is wrong with it, get more people interested and it may one day exist.
No I stated that this is what taxes pay for. You went on some dumbass tangent about how a city you have likely never visited and know nothing about other than what Fox News told you.
You can express disdain all you like, pretty hypocritical though since you are benefitting from it.
Had to be a Texan, you people make me laugh every time I visit.
Where do you think the loans for all those oil wells come from? Shit, who do you think own half of them? Who do you think pays for all those nice hunting ranches? Who do you think is hunting there? I have a lease in your state, you should thank me for shooting some of your pigs.
That hurricane impacted Texas, you might not have noticed, but that is because you are not a stockholder or even smart enough to understand our our civilization is tied together. The loss of NYC would impact the USA as much as the loss of DFW. Which is by the way is every bit as much a major urban center.
The fair tax act is merely a way to ensure the rich don't have to pay taxes.
Forget the poor, someone making $30k a year with a family of four should not be paying the same rate as a billionaire. Hell, under the fair tax act he would pay a higher percentage income as tax.
Rich folks consume a far lower share of their income every year. If you make $30k or hell $100k a year and have a family of four you are consuming all or near all of that. Thus paying tax on all of it, as compared to a rich person who may only spend a very small percentage of his income.
I agree that simplifying the tax goal is a good goal. I disagree that it should not be used for social policies, taxing cigarettes I think is a great example of just that.
I do not mind paying taxes, I do not try to find anyways beyond filling out the forms. I have never contributed more to a 401k or charity or something just to avoid taxes. I just paid my county taxes at the bank on saturday with a smile on my face. The same smile I have when I am voting or am selected for jury duty. I have this thing called personal responsibility, so I like to do what must be done to make sure I can continue to benefit from our civilization. You could also call it enlightened self interest I guess.
This will really shock you, I just bought a house and I feel they should repeal the mortgage interest deduction. My mortgage is lower than my rent was, giving me a tax break on top of that is unfair to renters and yet another way the less well off are taxed to benefit the rich.
Not if you want RAID1, limited amount of fans or be able to drive very high res screens. Nor are they likely to be available with i7s, most these days are i3s.
You are still paying for and participating in the civilization of the major urban centers.
I have no desire to move to New York city, I do like visiting it though. I have no problem with some of my tax dollars ending up there. As it turns out New York city and the entire state actually lose money on federal taxes in that they pay more than are returned to them. This is very common of the blue states being the providers and the red states being welfare queens.
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Great so if you make $48k you get taxed on 50% of the money and the rich guy spending only 10% of his income gets taxed only on that.
Plus we are killing demand and encouraging hoarding, that will really help the economy.
The people who spend like you describe don't stay rich long. Most rich folks are only spending a small percentage of their annual income.
You have to report illegal income. To not report is how they get you. That is how they got Capone.
Consider this, if I make $100k a year I might spend half that, the guy who makes $40 spends it all. That means I only get taxed on 50% of my income. Having money in the bank has utility. It improves your chances of getting a loan, it can be used later, it gets interest and most of all it is freedom.
I could quit my job right now and be fine for more than a year because of that money.
Even worse, this scheme encourages hoarding and discourages spending. Killing demand sure will be great for the economy.
He spends a trivial some compared to his annual salary on that stuff.
I said me, I make a lot more than $30k a year. I was discussing the percent of income that was taxed, not the overall rate.
That invested money is untaxed as far as he is concerned. Often it is not used for any of those things, since loans do not in and of themselves create demand. People spending money creates demand, which your little tax scheme will kill.
I am not interested in harming anyone, merely paying for the things our society needs in a fair manner.
I am not a sore loser, I am happy for them. I just want them to pay their fair share. That is how bills get paid.
Investment DOES NOT FUCKING CREATE JOBS, only demand can do that. This is more supply side stupidity. No matter how cheap loans are if no one is buying widgets there is no money to be made in selling widgets thus no jobs making widgets.
Only if you make more than $95k. So for the most part this is a bullshit talking point. Also you can renounce citizenship to avoid it entirely.
Federal grants are the same as any other allocation of tax money.
The billionaire gets far more services. He needs police to protect his assets, he needs the force of law to protect his interests, he uses roads, airports and the like far more.
A progressive tax system is as close to fair as one can get.
The rich constantly deprive the middle of property to benefit, subsidies to companies are just that. So are patents and copyright.
1. you can still move to another country.
2. federal grants often pay for stuff like that.
I just bought the house so I actually have not yet decided. I understand you last point, but it also seems immoral to me.
Fine compare it to a billion a year in income.
The billionaire easily gets 1000x more services. Not only does he have assets for the police to protect, he has property and his assets and business use more services.
You last point is pointless. Even if we exempt the first $30k in spending you are still talking about a system where I could be taxed on 50% of my income, while someone making $30 million a year is taxed on 1% of his.
I am sorry I made a typo. It happens to even the great sycodon, I am sure.
So what about the guy making $100k.
At some point you are talking about taxing some people on a much higher percentage of their income than others.
Personally I would much rather see a simpler tax code.
Under X $0 tax, over $X Y%. All income is income, not matter if you worked at the steel mill, sold drugs, got it for christmas from grandma or made it on the stock market.
So if you were under no legal obligation you would pay your taxes?
That is what you are suggesting.
My point is having a modern civilization costs money, roads, schools, plumbing that shit ain't cheap. So we have to pay, some people don't want to but they still want to use those services. So sadly force is used to compel them. I would be totally fine with exile being used instead.
I have never been laid off.
Nor am I a slacker, this week I was on call and got to be here once already at 3am when a server room cooling unit failed. I always do top rate work, and will for anyone that buys my time. I am only stating I give my current employer no better work than I would give any employer.
I have also never been fired.
My Workstation ATX case is tall enough I don't need to put it on a stand to reach ports and disk drives. A monitor has to be visible, the case does not.
I should take your silly claims as insults and leave you without any assistance. I am sadly a better person than that and will instead try to help you find what you are looking for.
The following should be quite close, you may need to select a different model on that website.
http://us.shuttle.com/ConfigurePackage.aspx?package=74GSH61R4-001-SCG-001
My computer case has had the fans upgraded, since it did not come with fans and actually does hold a RAID array of SSDs. So a sight more modern than yours. You may claim that little raid box is no faffing about. Until it dies and you can't read those disks. Using linux software raid I can just move the drives to a new machine. It outperforms hardware Raid unless you are spending thousands on the controller as well. I know I tested it vs such controllers I have at work.
MSNBC is a center right new network.
Fox news is far right. We have no left leaning new media to speak of.
Fox News does in fact have show hosts that misdescribe NYC and use it and DC as some boogyman. You know that.
No, you can install windows 7 directly on a mac mini. Replacing OSX.
Your request is reasonable, but there is no real market for it so it likely does not exist. Anything lower spec is not going to have an i7 you wanted. Unless again you are willing to do the work yourself.
Nothing is wrong with it, get more people interested and it may one day exist.
I never said that at all.
I said it should be repealed. Meaning I would like to get that rule changed via legal processes.
Why did the police not arrest these people?
No I stated that this is what taxes pay for. You went on some dumbass tangent about how a city you have likely never visited and know nothing about other than what Fox News told you.
You can express disdain all you like, pretty hypocritical though since you are benefitting from it.
Had to be a Texan, you people make me laugh every time I visit.
Where do you think the loans for all those oil wells come from? Shit, who do you think own half of them? Who do you think pays for all those nice hunting ranches? Who do you think is hunting there? I have a lease in your state, you should thank me for shooting some of your pigs.
That hurricane impacted Texas, you might not have noticed, but that is because you are not a stockholder or even smart enough to understand our our civilization is tied together. The loss of NYC would impact the USA as much as the loss of DFW. Which is by the way is every bit as much a major urban center.
The fair tax act is merely a way to ensure the rich don't have to pay taxes.
Forget the poor, someone making $30k a year with a family of four should not be paying the same rate as a billionaire. Hell, under the fair tax act he would pay a higher percentage income as tax.
Rich folks consume a far lower share of their income every year. If you make $30k or hell $100k a year and have a family of four you are consuming all or near all of that. Thus paying tax on all of it, as compared to a rich person who may only spend a very small percentage of his income.
How cute.
It puts me in the camp of those have personal responsibility and at odds with crooks. I am often at odds with crooks and cheats.
I have no desire to benefit from the Civilization of any of the major urban centers.
So who typed that again?
I agree that simplifying the tax goal is a good goal. I disagree that it should not be used for social policies, taxing cigarettes I think is a great example of just that.
I do not mind paying taxes, I do not try to find anyways beyond filling out the forms. I have never contributed more to a 401k or charity or something just to avoid taxes. I just paid my county taxes at the bank on saturday with a smile on my face. The same smile I have when I am voting or am selected for jury duty. I have this thing called personal responsibility, so I like to do what must be done to make sure I can continue to benefit from our civilization. You could also call it enlightened self interest I guess.
This will really shock you, I just bought a house and I feel they should repeal the mortgage interest deduction. My mortgage is lower than my rent was, giving me a tax break on top of that is unfair to renters and yet another way the less well off are taxed to benefit the rich.
Not if you want RAID1, limited amount of fans or be able to drive very high res screens. Nor are they likely to be available with i7s, most these days are i3s.
You are still paying for and participating in the civilization of the major urban centers.
I have no desire to move to New York city, I do like visiting it though. I have no problem with some of my tax dollars ending up there. As it turns out New York city and the entire state actually lose money on federal taxes in that they pay more than are returned to them. This is very common of the blue states being the providers and the red states being welfare queens.