Dunno . That Your problem Buddy . I myself was burned out at the RedHat Linux fiasco . But Sun _will_ rise someday if that stays for a week , be careful . For the momment personally I'm considering some subsuidary commpanies that rely on J2EE and.Not technology , but more on.Not . People belive in M$ . Thats all I want . Hope something will come out . Dunno .
About the JBoss , I dont think it really has any huge impact on the arena considering there are many better offers out there . And noone gives a shit as it comes up to shares , erverybody is your partner , shares are temporary stuff.
Regarding the stock I think it's time to sell the fucking Sun considering the.Not offer from M$ wich will eventualy take a share of the enterprise market and the forthcomming battle in the 64-bit CPU market .
Jboss issue.
Personally I think that Sun and co. (M$, IBM etc) will allways play like that if there would be a chance . They play _that_ game because they CAN afford it . Sun considers Java technology its own and I think it has the right after what has given to the Java OpenSource projects in general , the reward is big , controlling of the JCP , but at least Sun dont have controll on the XML technology which would make thing frightening . I dont belive that a company chooses one product based only on price exp a server-side component of the bussiness .
Would JBosss had made a difference in the entry-market against.Not offerings from M$ . I strongly doubt that coz M$ is still vaporware at the momment and Sun has all the tools to play the _big guy_ , and he does it well.
It took forever (and a day) for them to roll out something faster than a 500mhz sparc.
100% true . But did the market really suffered from this , Sun created the Sparc market.
Fuck.NOT , their solutions are always based on M$ tech , which is for desktops only , not the server market . Solaris IS the server market . Besides.NOT is still vaporware .
This is the market . Point .
Sun is not an Open Source movement or project or any thing like these philosophies . Sun is a hardware company and everybody knows that , the rules of the game are to make profit considering the stocks are nearly 0 which makes the situation even worse for new investment on their Ultra improvements . Sun is holding tight to Java technologies as thier latest resort of money .
JBoss is not Java certified !!!
Clearly these are not solid moves on the long run but they give Sun the possibility to re-enter a hostile x86 market (Solaris 9 on x86) .
I personally use FreeBSD's boot loader which is nice and uses F1, F2.... to boot the desired OS and it doesnt have the issues of Lilo or other 1024 problems .
I'd recommend it strongly .
Ok . You maybe right , but consider that Sun is a company and NOT an Open Source movemment or something simmilar , also to worsen thing have a look at the lastest events on 64-bit market , seems that is going to be a reall overkill on the comming years from both AMD and Intel , Ultra is fadding out bit by bit , the latest bet of Sun ( in the long run ) is Java and J2EE .
Everything in Sun history (not even Sun , maybe all major commpanies ) looks like drug dealer game , that is the market game I'm affraid
There will be no other Solaris after this one . Sun will close it immediatelly if this last atempt doesnt cover the dev/main cost and I doubt it very much coze the power of Solaris is on the patches on that means once released they have to maintain it for the years to come which considering the huge battle on x86 will be worhtless . Also open source it will never be an option for Sun .
Saying that Solaris is optimized for 64-bit hardware is probably wrong
This is very debatable . Have you ever experienced how slow Solaris 8 runs on double CPU x86 . Consider that Solaris is maybe the only platform where 64-bit computing has native support with exception of DEC .
About the webserver-park I personally doubt that there is one existing right now considering that Linux is so cheap and has some cluster availability .
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About the JBoss , I dont think it really has any huge impact on the arena considering there are many better offers out there . And noone gives a shit as it comes up to shares , erverybody is your partner , shares are temporary stuff .
Not nessesarily , BSD is highly tweaked esp for the x86 where Solaris lags way behind
I'm glad Sun is making this great OS (partly derived from BSD heritage and SYSV heritage) available for the ubiquitous PC.
That was tiiiime ago and PC isn't that ubiquitos on the servers arena
With commercial Solaris and freely available FreeBSD, there is no reason to run linux other than not knowing there are better choices.
This is true . Linuz sucks alot
Regarding the stock I think it's time to sell the fucking Sun considering the .Not offer from M$ wich will eventualy take a share of the enterprise market and the forthcomming battle in the 64-bit CPU market .
Jboss issue.Personally I think that Sun and co. (M$, IBM etc) will allways play like that if there would be a chance . They play _that_ game because they CAN afford it . Sun considers Java technology its own and I think it has the right after what has given to the Java OpenSource projects in general , the reward is big , controlling of the JCP , but at least Sun dont have controll on the XML technology which would make thing frightening . I dont belive that a company chooses one product based only on price exp a server-side component of the bussiness . Would JBosss had made a difference in the entry-market against .Not offerings from M$ . I strongly doubt that coz M$ is still vaporware at the momment and Sun has all the tools to play the _big guy_ , and he does it well .
It took forever (and a day) for them to roll out something faster than a 500mhz sparc.100% true . But did the market really suffered from this , Sun created the Sparc market .
Holly !
Thats huge but bo these thing run on 32 0R 64-bit platforms ?
Fuck .NOT , their solutions are always based on M$ tech , which is for desktops only , not the server market . Solaris IS the server market . Besides .NOT is still vaporware .
This is the market . Point . Sun is not an Open Source movement or project or any thing like these philosophies . Sun is a hardware company and everybody knows that , the rules of the game are to make profit considering the stocks are nearly 0 which makes the situation even worse for new investment on their Ultra improvements . Sun is holding tight to Java technologies as thier latest resort of money . JBoss is not Java certified !!! Clearly these are not solid moves on the long run but they give Sun the possibility to re-enter a hostile x86 market (Solaris 9 on x86) .
I personally use FreeBSD's boot loader which is nice and uses F1, F2 .... to boot the desired OS and it doesnt have the issues of Lilo or other 1024 problems .
I'd recommend it strongly .
Ok . You maybe right , but consider that Sun is a company and NOT an Open Source movemment or something simmilar , also to worsen thing have a look at the lastest events on 64-bit market , seems that is going to be a reall overkill on the comming years from both AMD and Intel , Ultra is fadding out bit by bit , the latest bet of Sun ( in the long run ) is Java and J2EE . Everything in Sun history (not even Sun , maybe all major commpanies ) looks like drug dealer game , that is the market game I'm affraid
Why ? Why to be cheapest when you can earn money ? Why to be cheapest when you r alone ? Chaepest than what ?
There will be no other Solaris after this one . Sun will close it immediatelly if this last atempt doesnt cover the dev/main cost and I doubt it very much coze the power of Solaris is on the patches on that means once released they have to maintain it for the years to come which considering the huge battle on x86 will be worhtless . Also open source it will never be an option for Sun .
Saying that Solaris is optimized for 64-bit hardware is probably wrong This is very debatable . Have you ever experienced how slow Solaris 8 runs on double CPU x86 . Consider that Solaris is maybe the only platform where 64-bit computing has native support with exception of DEC .
About the webserver-park I personally doubt that there is one existing right now considering that Linux is so cheap and has some cluster availability .
Yeah . But maybe it will be dicontinued in the future . Sun main market has nothing to do with x86 except for Java .
I hope Brett hires you again .
Everything is true , with the exception of
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"Sun makes Solaris, and Sun makes Java; that's all that needs to be said about that."
This is not entirely true (the Java part)
Have a look at www.wrox.com . Something maybe usefull there , I found some .
I have to agree with you . I still have _that_ Book , it's a waste .
That isn't Java related .
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Fuck you
I hate these niggers here .
Sorry , Dude , I dont like microsoft that much . Matter of taste , but not just that . Mono Project is still not-mature .
Why , ,
the hell
everything should be written on Microsoft-based tools ?
Kinda neat?!
The No 1 most in demand is Java and C++ after that , espexially in enterprise computing .
You are wrong . Java is "THE" solutions on the enterprise these days .