I'd say they're equally interested in maintaining their OS monopoly which provides the foundation of their bottom line. Sure they are intimately linked, but they're not the same, because MS will make moves that might hurt their bottom line but cement their OS monopoly. Because if they lost that, then the bottom would fall out of their bottom line.
For example by your quite reasonable logic, MS never would have allowed free and cross-platform.NET implementations in the first place. But with Linux/Free Software becoming an increasing threat to their OS dominance, and the market in general becoming vaguely in favor of cross-platform solutions, it made sense to convince fools like Miguel to waste their time developing Mono by promising not to drop the patent hammer. All the effort that could have gone into a real free and cross-platform.NET competitor was instead spent on something Microsoft can eliminate any time they want.
You're absolutely right Sun is a less aggressive competitor than MS, and less cunning too. Sun actually wanted to create a cross-platform runtime, but failed. MS never wanted to have a real cross-platform language, they only wanted to trick people into thinking they did so Linux developers would waste their time on Mono and application developers would code to MS' proprietary standard thinking they were coding something open and cross-platform.
Maybe the biggest lamentation I have is regarding C#. I keep on hearing how it's a wonderful improvement on C++, which is my bread-and-butter language.
I wouldn't be too sad. C# is really more of an improvement on Java than it is on C++. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume there's a reason you use C++ and not Java, and those reasons would probably still mean you'd use C++ over C#.
And we're allowed to roll our eyes and say "No shit, Sherlock! Welcome to five years ago!"
I mean sure he's slow on the uptake. Sure it was pretty silly to dismiss the quite plain threat of Microsoft's patents with "Oh but they won't do that!" But hey, at least the "but they won't do that!" turns into "gee, it's looking like that's exactly what they plan to do" eventually.
Doesn't mean I think he's any smarter than I did yesterday. But sure he's allowed to change his mind, and that's a good thing.
Hugh, that's pretty cool. Does that mean that if they ever develop a quantitative measure of insect stinginess, they'll name the scale after Schmidt?
Cus that's one heck of a subjective scale. You gotta love some of his descriptions. A yellowjacket sting is "Hot and smoky, almost irreverent." Irreverent?! I'd say any fuckin bug that bites or stings me is being irreverent, and I can't see how pain can relate to reverence... I can imagine you saying irreverent things as a result of pain, but to describe pain itself?
But mad props to anyone who does extremely painful things to themselves in the name of science!
They were never expected to last only 90 days - the initial(!) budget did only provide for that mission length. It was fully expected to be extended.
The AC is right, they really were expected to only last for 90 days, not because they were engineered to fail (obviously to ensure any degree of survival on mars, they had to be engineered as robustly as possible), but because of dust buildup.
We got lucky that the Martian wind is stronger than we expected. Otherwise the rovers would have died due to lack of power after a few months.
Right, because ER treatment is so cheap and cost effective.
That's the point. We were paying for people to receive the most expensive and least effective kind of health care, because we didn't want to pay for them to receive cheaper and more effective care, or even more cheap and more effective preventative care. Which means that until yesterday, we were self-defeating morons.
Won't someone think of all the damage reducing the number of sick days taken will do to our economy!?
Good point. Sick days = less work done per employee = more employees need to be hired. It's job stimulus!
I think there's a flaw in that reasoning somewhere, but damned if I can find it. =D
Because the hospital was going to eat the cost of their care anyways, the hospital found it was cheaper to manage the indigients' care through preventative medicine than to deal with them in the vastly more expensive ER setting.
Wow that's pretty awesome. Linky maybe? My google foo wasn't strong enough to find it (in the ten seconds I tried).
Yeah in the "well it's hypothetically possible they didn't come from the obvious place" sense of not sure. Hm, drug gangs near the U.S. border, that we know cross the border to sell their product, have U.S.-made weapons... HMMMMMMM...
It's Iran-Contra all over again as far as I'm concerned, only this time I'm hoping neither government is directly involved in authorizing it.:P
However, you can't blame one and then acquit another.
Thus the phrase "two-way street".:P
Also, I wonder if corrupt Mexican military officials have sold weapons on "the black market" or if they were stolen from the military. Wouldn't shock me.
Oh sure I wouldn't be shocked that there would be corruption. But I think you're really selling the military short at a time when the federal goverment finally got sick of the local governments' and police forces' lack of action and sent in the army to kick some Zeta teeth in. They're doing a bang-up job, even caught the asshole who attacked the U.S. embassy. And unlike the gang bangers and the police, the military doesn't shake down the locals for everything they can.
By the way, just checked and only special forces use AR-15 in the mexican military, so while again it's still plausible some are being sold on the black market, it's probably not the main source simply for numerical reasons.
What I mean is, your government, military, and police are corrupt and controlled by drug cartels.
Actually, local government and the police are, but the military and President are not. The Army are the ones cracking down on -- as in, getting in gun battles with -- the drug cartels right now, and are the ones who caught the cops red-handed working with the cartels.
But uh yeah, this is a two-way street we should all be familiar with. Drugs cross the border into the U.S. and sold for cash which is used to buy guns, which go back over the border. The gang bangers are using a lot of AR-15s when confronting the army. Where'd they get those?
What?!?! We have the highest per capita healthcare costs in the world!. Yes, higher than Germany, UK, Canada, and all the other "socialist" European countries.
Shut up with your 'facts'! You can use facts to prove anything even remotely true!
Letting poor people get medical treatment is going to bankrupt Germany, that's all there is to it. It's not about how much money they spend on health care, it's about how much I hate socialism!
Um, by that explanation, being able to hire cheap immigrant labor in this country was the only thing that partially mitigated the tide of manufacturing moving overseas. Without that, the only source of cheap labor would have been overseas. So they either use immigrants, or the factor itself has to emigrate.
You are fundamentally right in one respect though: The only way to get our manufacturing back is to remove the incentives for companies to manufacture overseas in places like China.
Are you sure? Do you have the papers? A LOT of Europeans came over here illegally. They did, of course, claim to have done so legally.
Of course for all I know you're 2nd generation and your folks have their naturalization papers framed on their wall. But maybe consider that it isn't so clear for many of the folks with your attitude.
the Industrial Revolution is fucking OVER and we don't need vast amounts of unskilled labor to work in mills and factories long since dead.
Just plain industry is over in this country. The Revolution sure isn't, at least not in the sense that we don't need industry anymore. We do need it, and if we had what we needed then we would need the labor. But we fucked ourselves by shipping all the industry overseas and immigrants hah nothing to do with it.
Yeah, I'll be sure to let Germany know that they're about to go bankrupt. They'll be pretty surprised what with their economy kicking ours' ass, but I'm sure they'll see the writing on the wall when I tell em rubycodez said so.
What, you think this National ID card idea spontaneously appeared when the health care bill was passed? LOL, haven't payed much attention for the last, um, forever, have you?
The Powers That Be are always looking for a reason to push a national ID card. After 9/11 there was a big push for it, and regularly ever since, but it was defeated because even at our most paranoid and batshit crazy we knew better than to let such a thing pass. Just like this proposal will go nowhere as well.
Look, you want to stop Obamacare from resulting in a National ID card? It's easy:
Stop caring that an illegal might receive medical treatment, just like you're going to have to learn to stop caring that a poor person will receive medical treatment. The only way the ID card has gotten any traction is as a way to stop illegals from receiving benefits, i.e. as a result of the same people who are against health care reform.
And if you're confused as to how treating illegal immigrants will fail to bankrupt us, it's the same as with poor people: They already are receiving treatment, but at the ER, not at a regular doctor.
I just went to Barnes & Nobles' website, and I can't find the Kindle anywhere!
I don't know why you are talking about Microsoft or Apple, when B&N is so evil as to not sell a competitor's product in their own store!
Why is the government not stopping them?!
P.S. Hope Opera doesn't get rejected, but seriously, if it does... "Store doesn't sell product that competes with store owner" is hardly news and hardly evil.
Safari is a traditional browser; establish a connection to the web server (some round trips right there), request and download the requested HTML page (another round trip), download any first-tier needed assets (JS, CSS, images, etc) (likely not all done in parallel, more round trips), download any second-tier assets (example, images from CSS, anything dynamically written by the JS, etc), and so on. All in all, you're probably adding in dozens of round trips at the least.
Hasn't worked that way since HTTP v1.0, when each thing you wanted had to be requested individually, which sucked which is why they changed it. Now browsers can request many elements at once, and the server can send them all back in the same stream. There are multiple round trips needed for establishing the connection and making the initial http request, and any elements that the browser only knows it needs until after processing a script of course have to wait for the script to be received and processed. But there should not be seconds of latency merely due to mandatory round-trip times because there aren't that many.
Obviously the way Opera does it is still going to be way faster.
It all started with Ultima IV, where the goal of the game wasn't to kill the big baddie, but to ascribe to a series of morals.
It stared with IV, but it became awesome with VI and VII. They kept the aspect of morality, but lost all of the negative consequences.
Every time you robbed someone blind in VI it'd beep and say "Stealing!" in the text window, and in VII the Guardian would sometimes pop up to admonish you for your evil deeds. Yeah, the bad guy was making fun of you for not being very Avartar-ish. Sometimes a party member would leave your party in a huff, and you'd have to promise to never steal again to get them back.
And then proceed to ransack the next house. =D
I dunno, for some reason I always found it great that I was constantly being reminded of what a jerk-ass kleptomaniac "hero" I was, but never being punished for it -- quite the opposite.
Most businesses can't just tell someone else entering their market "nope, that would compete with us, you can't do that."
Uh yes most businesses can say "nope" to a competitor who wants to sell their product through the businesses' own store.
Lowes doesn't sell Home Depot's brand of power tools; Best Buy doesn't sell computers using Fry's brand of motherboards. The brick-and-mortar Apple store doesn't sell Windows-based PCs. All shocking instances of anti-competitive behavior, I know.:P
Also, you could overrule the prediction algorithms easily to cache the music you want to listen to or the database you are working on.
I'd overrule the algorithm to not cache my music files (on the SSD) and instead be read directly from the HDD, since the transfer rate is negligible and startup latency is not a big issue. Same with movie files. HDDs are just fine for streaming. It's frequent, latency-sensitive random access patterns where the SSD cache would pay dividends.
Other than that, I like your proposal. Make it so!
Historians were also both pleased and horrified by the recent unearthing of a rendition of the Last Supper by Michaelangelo. While the portion sizes are closer to what is believed to be accurate, the painting also features such embellishments as a kangaroo, twenty eight disciples, and three Christs.
However the card attached to the painting is actually labeled "The Penultimate Supper", and historians must admit there are no records of how many people attended that gathering.
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All MS is interested in is the bottom line.
I'd say they're equally interested in maintaining their OS monopoly which provides the foundation of their bottom line. Sure they are intimately linked, but they're not the same, because MS will make moves that might hurt their bottom line but cement their OS monopoly. Because if they lost that, then the bottom would fall out of their bottom line.
For example by your quite reasonable logic, MS never would have allowed free and cross-platform .NET implementations in the first place. But with Linux/Free Software becoming an increasing threat to their OS dominance, and the market in general becoming vaguely in favor of cross-platform solutions, it made sense to convince fools like Miguel to waste their time developing Mono by promising not to drop the patent hammer. All the effort that could have gone into a real free and cross-platform .NET competitor was instead spent on something Microsoft can eliminate any time they want.
You're absolutely right Sun is a less aggressive competitor than MS, and less cunning too. Sun actually wanted to create a cross-platform runtime, but failed. MS never wanted to have a real cross-platform language, they only wanted to trick people into thinking they did so Linux developers would waste their time on Mono and application developers would code to MS' proprietary standard thinking they were coding something open and cross-platform.
Maybe the biggest lamentation I have is regarding C#. I keep on hearing how it's a wonderful improvement on C++, which is my bread-and-butter language.
I wouldn't be too sad. C# is really more of an improvement on Java than it is on C++. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume there's a reason you use C++ and not Java, and those reasons would probably still mean you'd use C++ over C#.
So is he allowed to be surprised or angry now?
Of course he is.
And we're allowed to roll our eyes and say "No shit, Sherlock! Welcome to five years ago!"
I mean sure he's slow on the uptake. Sure it was pretty silly to dismiss the quite plain threat of Microsoft's patents with "Oh but they won't do that!" But hey, at least the "but they won't do that!" turns into "gee, it's looking like that's exactly what they plan to do" eventually.
Doesn't mean I think he's any smarter than I did yesterday. But sure he's allowed to change his mind, and that's a good thing.
Hugh, that's pretty cool. Does that mean that if they ever develop a quantitative measure of insect stinginess, they'll name the scale after Schmidt?
Cus that's one heck of a subjective scale. You gotta love some of his descriptions. A yellowjacket sting is "Hot and smoky, almost irreverent." Irreverent?! I'd say any fuckin bug that bites or stings me is being irreverent, and I can't see how pain can relate to reverence... I can imagine you saying irreverent things as a result of pain, but to describe pain itself?
But mad props to anyone who does extremely painful things to themselves in the name of science!
And here I was thinking more like 15 minutes.
But seriously, weaponized Indian food, aside from being redundant, has got to be banned by some kind of international treaty.
They were never expected to last only 90 days - the initial(!) budget did only provide for
that mission length. It was fully expected to be extended.
The AC is right, they really were expected to only last for 90 days, not because they were engineered to fail (obviously to ensure any degree of survival on mars, they had to be engineered as robustly as possible), but because of dust buildup.
We got lucky that the Martian wind is stronger than we expected. Otherwise the rovers would have died due to lack of power after a few months.
Right, because ER treatment is so cheap and cost effective.
That's the point. We were paying for people to receive the most expensive and least effective kind of health care, because we didn't want to pay for them to receive cheaper and more effective care, or even more cheap and more effective preventative care. Which means that until yesterday, we were self-defeating morons.
Won't someone think of all the damage reducing the number of sick days taken will do to our economy!?
Good point. Sick days = less work done per employee = more employees need to be hired. It's job stimulus!
I think there's a flaw in that reasoning somewhere, but damned if I can find it. =D
Because the hospital was going to eat the cost of their care anyways, the hospital found it was cheaper to manage the indigients' care through preventative medicine than to deal with them in the vastly more expensive ER setting.
Wow that's pretty awesome. Linky maybe? My google foo wasn't strong enough to find it (in the ten seconds I tried).
Where did they get those? We're not really sure.
Yeah in the "well it's hypothetically possible they didn't come from the obvious place" sense of not sure. Hm, drug gangs near the U.S. border, that we know cross the border to sell their product, have U.S.-made weapons... HMMMMMMM...
It's Iran-Contra all over again as far as I'm concerned, only this time I'm hoping neither government is directly involved in authorizing it. :P
However, you can't blame one and then acquit another.
Thus the phrase "two-way street". :P
Also, I wonder if corrupt Mexican military officials have sold weapons on "the black market" or if they were stolen from the military. Wouldn't shock me.
Oh sure I wouldn't be shocked that there would be corruption. But I think you're really selling the military short at a time when the federal goverment finally got sick of the local governments' and police forces' lack of action and sent in the army to kick some Zeta teeth in. They're doing a bang-up job, even caught the asshole who attacked the U.S. embassy. And unlike the gang bangers and the police, the military doesn't shake down the locals for everything they can.
By the way, just checked and only special forces use AR-15 in the mexican military, so while again it's still plausible some are being sold on the black market, it's probably not the main source simply for numerical reasons.
*Yes, yes I know... but how much input will come from Northern Ireland, really?
Who do you think contributed the Advanced Micro-gravity Guinness Tap Module to the ISS?!
What I mean is, your government, military, and police are corrupt and controlled by drug cartels.
Actually, local government and the police are, but the military and President are not. The Army are the ones cracking down on -- as in, getting in gun battles with -- the drug cartels right now, and are the ones who caught the cops red-handed working with the cartels.
But uh yeah, this is a two-way street we should all be familiar with. Drugs cross the border into the U.S. and sold for cash which is used to buy guns, which go back over the border. The gang bangers are using a lot of AR-15s when confronting the army. Where'd they get those?
And if they chose not to, like many businesses do, like the examples I gave, what exactly would be the big deal?
What?!?! We have the highest per capita healthcare costs in the world!. Yes, higher than Germany, UK, Canada, and all the other "socialist" European countries.
Shut up with your 'facts'! You can use facts to prove anything even remotely true!
Letting poor people get medical treatment is going to bankrupt Germany, that's all there is to it. It's not about how much money they spend on health care, it's about how much I hate socialism!
Um, by that explanation, being able to hire cheap immigrant labor in this country was the only thing that partially mitigated the tide of manufacturing moving overseas. Without that, the only source of cheap labor would have been overseas. So they either use immigrants, or the factor itself has to emigrate.
You are fundamentally right in one respect though: The only way to get our manufacturing back is to remove the incentives for companies to manufacture overseas in places like China.
Mine came here LEGALLY.
Are you sure? Do you have the papers? A LOT of Europeans came over here illegally. They did, of course, claim to have done so legally.
Of course for all I know you're 2nd generation and your folks have their naturalization papers framed on their wall. But maybe consider that it isn't so clear for many of the folks with your attitude.
the Industrial Revolution is fucking OVER and we don't need vast amounts of unskilled labor to work in mills and factories long since dead.
Just plain industry is over in this country. The Revolution sure isn't, at least not in the sense that we don't need industry anymore. We do need it, and if we had what we needed then we would need the labor. But we fucked ourselves by shipping all the industry overseas and immigrants hah nothing to do with it.
Yeah, I'll be sure to let Germany know that they're about to go bankrupt. They'll be pretty surprised what with their economy kicking ours' ass, but I'm sure they'll see the writing on the wall when I tell em rubycodez said so.
What, you think this National ID card idea spontaneously appeared when the health care bill was passed? LOL, haven't payed much attention for the last, um, forever, have you?
The Powers That Be are always looking for a reason to push a national ID card. After 9/11 there was a big push for it, and regularly ever since, but it was defeated because even at our most paranoid and batshit crazy we knew better than to let such a thing pass. Just like this proposal will go nowhere as well.
Look, you want to stop Obamacare from resulting in a National ID card? It's easy:
Stop caring that an illegal might receive medical treatment, just like you're going to have to learn to stop caring that a poor person will receive medical treatment. The only way the ID card has gotten any traction is as a way to stop illegals from receiving benefits, i.e. as a result of the same people who are against health care reform.
And if you're confused as to how treating illegal immigrants will fail to bankrupt us, it's the same as with poor people: They already are receiving treatment, but at the ER, not at a regular doctor.
I just went to Barnes & Nobles' website, and I can't find the Kindle anywhere!
I don't know why you are talking about Microsoft or Apple, when B&N is so evil as to not sell a competitor's product in their own store!
Why is the government not stopping them?!
P.S. Hope Opera doesn't get rejected, but seriously, if it does... "Store doesn't sell product that competes with store owner" is hardly news and hardly evil.
Safari is a traditional browser; establish a connection to the web server (some round trips right there), request and download the requested HTML page (another round trip), download any first-tier needed assets (JS, CSS, images, etc) (likely not all done in parallel, more round trips), download any second-tier assets (example, images from CSS, anything dynamically written by the JS, etc), and so on. All in all, you're probably adding in dozens of round trips at the least.
Hasn't worked that way since HTTP v1.0, when each thing you wanted had to be requested individually, which sucked which is why they changed it. Now browsers can request many elements at once, and the server can send them all back in the same stream. There are multiple round trips needed for establishing the connection and making the initial http request, and any elements that the browser only knows it needs until after processing a script of course have to wait for the script to be received and processed. But there should not be seconds of latency merely due to mandatory round-trip times because there aren't that many.
Obviously the way Opera does it is still going to be way faster.
It all started with Ultima IV, where the goal of the game wasn't to kill the big baddie, but to ascribe to a series of morals.
It stared with IV, but it became awesome with VI and VII. They kept the aspect of morality, but lost all of the negative consequences.
Every time you robbed someone blind in VI it'd beep and say "Stealing!" in the text window, and in VII the Guardian would sometimes pop up to admonish you for your evil deeds. Yeah, the bad guy was making fun of you for not being very Avartar-ish. Sometimes a party member would leave your party in a huff, and you'd have to promise to never steal again to get them back.
And then proceed to ransack the next house. =D
I dunno, for some reason I always found it great that I was constantly being reminded of what a jerk-ass kleptomaniac "hero" I was, but never being punished for it -- quite the opposite.
Most businesses can't just tell someone else entering their market "nope, that would compete with us, you can't do that."
Uh yes most businesses can say "nope" to a competitor who wants to sell their product through the businesses' own store.
Lowes doesn't sell Home Depot's brand of power tools; Best Buy doesn't sell computers using Fry's brand of motherboards. The brick-and-mortar Apple store doesn't sell Windows-based PCs. All shocking instances of anti-competitive behavior, I know. :P
Drinking the wine pure was often considered barbaric or even dangerous, apart from medical use.
And today we have the French, proving the Greeks correct.
All the shame of being a video-game playing recluse.
All the shame of calling a phone sex line.
Anything else we can pile on the shame stack? It might be a new business model!
Also, you could overrule the prediction algorithms easily to cache the music you want to listen to or the database you are working on.
I'd overrule the algorithm to not cache my music files (on the SSD) and instead be read directly from the HDD, since the transfer rate is negligible and startup latency is not a big issue. Same with movie files. HDDs are just fine for streaming. It's frequent, latency-sensitive random access patterns where the SSD cache would pay dividends.
Other than that, I like your proposal. Make it so!
Historians were also both pleased and horrified by the recent unearthing of a rendition of the Last Supper by Michaelangelo. While the portion sizes are closer to what is believed to be accurate, the painting also features such embellishments as a kangaroo, twenty eight disciples, and three Christs.
However the card attached to the painting is actually labeled "The Penultimate Supper", and historians must admit there are no records of how many people attended that gathering.