Yeah looked okay from Bracknell in the UK's Thames Valley (where Oracle, MS, Novell, COGNOS,JDE, BAAN, Peoplesoft, etc, et) are located).
All the offices emptied and there was quite a buzz altho the clouds covered at just the wrong moment it was as good as we could have hoped.
The eldritch light was cool - haven't seen it like that since I did acid last.
The festivals in cornwall looked cool on TV tho' - Dodger is just jealous cos Harl (a mutual friend) went to the lizard with VIP tickets. I really wish I was there rather than stuck in this office coding an crappy application server on crappy NT (although as soon as Notes for Linux finishes installing I'll be playing with that).
I didn't think i'd cope this well - not too upset that I could have been with my fiancee in cornwall - in my home town right under totality (Falmouth) with all my friends. Bah!
>> FUD, FUD, FUD.... >> NT has no useful scripting, Linux has everything you can ever need > Windows scripting host will let you do almost anything using either VBScript or Javascript. There is also Perl for Win32. hmm.. Windows NT scripting is still far behind that of Linux/unix, even the most hardened NT advocates recognise that. Windows scripting host can't compete with BASH,ZSH,(non-alien)Perl, AWK,SED,etc etc. Thats why ActiveState are being funded by Microsoft, they have a lot of catching up to do (but respect to them cos I couldn't face not having Perl when I use NT)
>> you cannot remote administer NT (Im not talking about fast connections here, (where you could use VNC), try to administer NT over a modem line. Good luck) > I've used both PC-Duo and Carbon Copy to do remote NT administration just fine over a 28.8 line. Hmm.. like you'd get those thru a halfway decent firewall. I have to go down 5 floors to admin our servers from the console because no remote admin tools were included and being a lowly System Administrator I wouldn't be able to get funding for a remote admin tool let alone get it through our firewall. Sorry but NT lags sooo... far behind on this one, I can use X thru secure shell from a trusted host with x.509 certifate authentication to my linux box - in fact I haven't touched my linux boxes keyboard since I moved it into a different office.
>> once youve made your decision to use IIS, youre completly stuck when it comes to changing to another type of webserver, or sometimes even when you want to transfer sites from on IIS to another I've never had any problem with that... the MS tool works well, and its not like on a Linux box you can move seamlessly from Apache to Zeus, for instance. I have - it can (not necessarily always is) be a pig, any move can be damned horrid, but in my experience so far UNIX (linux/aix) stuff is simpler to migrate because I am in more control.
To put this in context I am working on a multimillion dollar e-commerce project using NT,AS/400s and RS/6000's. If we had used unix or as/400's instead of NT/intel it would have been completed by now and more scalable to boot.
I have been administering unix for several years and have 2 years + 1 year industrial placement of my BSc Honours Degree in Computer Systems & Networks under my belt so I know what I am talking about.
so if the CPU is idle while the network i/o is limited does that mean that handling cpu expensive stuff like e-commerce (mod_perl,zope,php & db2/oracle/m(y)sql) will perform well because the networking stuff won't be so close to its limit?
How can an american criticise the UK when he probably can't find it on a map? pah!
Jeez, at least we have a legal system that isn't laughable. Oh and Monopoly control that works.(except for untilities like BG/T/R).
As for what we did for computers: Manchester Encoding, Turing, Babbage, Ada, Alan Cox, Sinclair Research, Manchester University, Cambridge University, Archimedes, Acorn, Edgar Allan Poe, HP Lovecraft, (where would UNIX culture be with out great literiture), Radio, Telegram, Telecoms, Leo (worlds first commercially used computer).
Then you've got Switzerland that gave us hypertext, LSD, merchant banking.
Scandinavia gave us Tannenbaum & Torvalds.
There would be no networks (let alone internet), no silicon valley, no linux, no hypertext and no high quality artificial hallucinigens wihtout us 'unimportant' europeans.
The open source movement has changed how I want to develop my carear and is hopefully going to improve my employment chances.
I know it will help me when I eventually find myself hiring staff.
I mean whats cooler than being able to show or be shown work before you hire. Work on stuff that has been tested to boot.
Its also a whole different style of development, I am basing my Final Year Project at university on the Open Source method by designing an app that will be easy for developers to share and with replacable components.
Any budding developer with time on their hands can contribute to or test or release their own work and get experience before having worked for a company which means an end to the vicious circle of 'no experience, no job, no experience..'
I have always enjoyed Kernighans style (and Ritchies to obviously) I have the elements of programming style on my desktop, and reckon its really useful even if I have to translate the points made from PL/1 and fortran (I can't remember which they use) to C(++) and Perl.
I have to point out that using an int as a Flag or True/False allows you to do 2 extra things -
1 it can be used as a simple semaphore which is always handy and still preserves the true/false testing by having a 0 or not 0 state
2 it can be used as True/False/ErrorCode(n)/ErrorCode(n+1) and again preserve the testing by having a 1 or not 1 state
The flag could also be used to return an int value as a result and maintain state in the same way as a semaphore.
Using a true/false bool type limits it really badly.
The Research has couple of flaws - some the fault of DH Brown others just due to bad timing.
The Features are poorly tested and weighted badly - Its all very well saying something has a feature but if it is Shite then it is of little use.
NT has many applications and a variety are included (when you pay big bucks) - unfortunately they are usually unstable due to the nature of win32 and the instability of the NT kernal.
The research weighed in favour of what NT had and badly in what it hadn't and made it worse by not testing or benchmarking them.
Linux should of came in at least equal or even ahead of NT - adding SP4 and the extras is no different to adding the 2.2 kernal (my experience leads me to believe the latter is easier and quicker).
the other problem is bad timing - the research pre-empted many important events such as SAP and other major Enterprise Application vendors not only supporting Linux but supporting it with SMP and other Enterprise features.
The research also pre-empted the 2.2 kernal release which is a shame.
server not responding - sounds like typical microsofties getting worried because suddenly they are going to be recognised as the useless frauds that they are and at last decent skills like systems analysis and system administration will be respected and well paid rather than point & click & reboot wimps.
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Yeah looked okay from Bracknell in the UK's Thames Valley (where Oracle, MS, Novell, COGNOS,JDE, BAAN, Peoplesoft, etc, et) are located).
All the offices emptied and there was quite a buzz altho the clouds covered at just the wrong moment it was as good as we could have hoped.
The eldritch light was cool - haven't seen it like that since I did acid last.
The festivals in cornwall looked cool on TV tho' - Dodger is just jealous cos Harl (a mutual friend) went to the lizard with VIP tickets. I really wish I was there rather than stuck in this office coding an crappy application server on crappy NT (although as soon as Notes for Linux finishes installing I'll be playing with that).
I didn't think i'd cope this well - not too upset that I could have been with my fiancee in cornwall - in my home town right under totality (Falmouth) with all my friends. Bah!
A.
>> you cannot remote administer NT (Im not talking about fast connections here, (where you could use VNC), try to administer NT over a modem line. Good luck) > I've used both PC-Duo and Carbon Copy to do remote NT administration just fine over a 28.8 line. Hmm.. like you'd get those thru a halfway decent firewall. I have to go down 5 floors to admin our servers from the console because no remote admin tools were included and being a lowly System Administrator I wouldn't be able to get funding for a remote admin tool let alone get it through our firewall.
Sorry but NT lags sooo... far behind on this one, I can use X thru secure shell from a trusted host with x.509 certifate authentication to my linux box - in fact I haven't touched my linux boxes keyboard since I moved it into a different office.
>> once youve made your decision to use IIS, youre completly stuck when it comes to changing to another type of webserver, or sometimes even when you want to transfer sites from on IIS to another I've never had any problem with that... the MS tool works well, and its not like on a Linux box you can move seamlessly from Apache to Zeus, for instance. I have - it can (not necessarily always is) be a pig, any move can be damned horrid, but in my experience so far UNIX (linux/aix) stuff is simpler to migrate because I am in more control.
To put this in context I am working on a multimillion dollar e-commerce project using NT,AS/400s and RS/6000's. If we had used unix or as/400's instead of NT/intel it would have been completed by now and more scalable to boot.
I have been administering unix for several years and have 2 years + 1 year industrial placement of my BSc Honours Degree in Computer Systems & Networks under my belt so I know what I am talking about.
A.
so if the CPU is idle while the network i/o is limited does that mean that handling cpu expensive stuff like e-commerce (mod_perl,zope,php & db2/oracle/m(y)sql) will perform well because the networking stuff won't be so close to its limit?
A.
pot? kettle?
How can an american criticise the UK when he probably can't find it on a map? pah!
Jeez, at least we have a legal system that isn't laughable. Oh and Monopoly control that works.(except for untilities like BG/T/R).
As for what we did for computers:
Manchester Encoding,
Turing,
Babbage,
Ada,
Alan Cox,
Sinclair Research,
Manchester University,
Cambridge University,
Archimedes,
Acorn,
Edgar Allan Poe,
HP Lovecraft,
(where would UNIX culture be with out great literiture),
Radio,
Telegram,
Telecoms,
Leo (worlds first commercially used computer).
Then you've got Switzerland that gave us hypertext, LSD, merchant banking.
Scandinavia gave us Tannenbaum & Torvalds.
There would be no networks (let alone internet), no silicon valley, no linux, no hypertext and no high quality artificial hallucinigens wihtout us 'unimportant' europeans.
A.
The open source movement has changed how I want to develop my carear and is hopefully going to improve my employment chances.
I know it will help me when I eventually find myself hiring staff.
I mean whats cooler than being able to show or be shown work before you hire. Work on stuff that has been tested to boot.
Its also a whole different style of development, I am basing my Final Year Project at university on the Open Source method by designing an app that will be easy for developers to share and with replacable components.
Any budding developer with time on their hands can contribute to or test or release their own work and get experience before having worked for a company which means an end to the vicious circle of 'no experience, no job, no experience..'
A.
excuse the pun!
Beaches are way cooler than cities, especially if they are surrounded by rolling hills with lush green pastures and crumbling cliffs.
My idea of a relaxing day is a moderately sunny day on the beach with some cool friends and some weed & chilled wine.
When it gets dark or cool then head back to a nice cottage an hack the night away with vodka and more weed.
Hmmm.... Chillin' Cornish style.
I have always enjoyed Kernighans style (and Ritchies to obviously) I have the elements of programming style on my desktop, and reckon its really useful even if I have to translate the points made from PL/1 and fortran (I can't remember which they use) to C(++) and Perl.
I have to point out that using an int as a Flag or True/False allows you to do 2 extra things -
1 it can be used as a simple semaphore which is always handy and still preserves the true/false testing by having a 0 or not 0 state
2 it can be used as True/False/ErrorCode(n)/ErrorCode(n+1)
and again preserve the testing by having a 1 or not 1 state
The flag could also be used to return an int value as a result and maintain state in the same way as a semaphore.
Using a true/false bool type limits it really badly.
Aaron
The Research has couple of flaws - some the fault of DH Brown others just due to bad timing.
The Features are poorly tested and weighted badly - Its all very well saying something has a feature but if it is Shite then it is of little use.
NT has many applications and a variety are included (when you pay big bucks) - unfortunately they are usually unstable due to the nature of win32 and the instability of the NT kernal.
The research weighed in favour of what NT had and badly in what it hadn't and made it worse by not testing or benchmarking them.
Linux should of came in at least equal or even ahead of NT - adding SP4 and the extras is no different to adding the 2.2 kernal (my experience leads me to believe the latter is easier and quicker).
the other problem is bad timing - the research pre-empted many important events such as SAP and other major Enterprise Application vendors not only supporting Linux but supporting it with SMP and other Enterprise features.
The research also pre-empted the 2.2 kernal release which is a shame.
server not responding - sounds like typical microsofties getting worried because suddenly they are going to be recognised as the useless frauds that they are and at last decent skills like systems analysis and system administration will be respected and well paid rather than point & click & reboot wimps.
TheJackal.