Re-read the parent. Already addressed. You yourself admit that CARP == death. Then you go on to say that CARP is good enough for anyone smaller than you.
Mmm, yes sir, CARP = death Unless you are under 20 concurrent listeners. What good is this if only stations with 10 listeners survive, and they cannot grow. Because once they grow beyond 20 or so, CARP = death. In other words, CARP is bearable only under 20 listeners (nobody said it's good, it's terrible!!!) What I have said is, if you are a small hobbyist it is assumed that you want your listeners to grow (Like a hobby of collecting stamps. You don't stop at 10 stamps, the hobby is to collect them). Then until you get to about 20 listeners you'd use the CARP rate because it's cheaper, but beyond that it becomes unbearable, and this bill is the only thing *so far* that will permit you to conitune your hobby beyond that.
News flash!!! Hobby stations don't hit up their customers for cash, and there is no potential for advertising to 5-10 listeners.
Our station is still a hobby, and was a hobby from day one with 5-10 listeners. First you CAN get some cash, and you might afford $500 a year for a hobby (otherwsie get a hobby you can afford, that's tough life). Maybe I like to build a sports car out of my regular car as a hobby, but I can't afford it. Who do I complain to? See more below...
As we have already seen by the mass of closings, the $500 CARP minimum + the recordkeeping requirements were the end of hoby webcasting.
I can't say I agree. It certainly makes it tough, but it's "doable." If there is a will there's a way. Here's the big question though. $500 a year is only the year's minimum for recording works. You ALREADY have to pay around $523 or more combined a year minimum to ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC? Are you assuming that's already paid for? So you have multiple problems with your hobby. Either you can't pay almost anything to anyone, or you pay. Don't complain to me it's too expensive, that's a fact of life. Nobody said a hobby has to be subsidized by anyone.
Thank you. This is exactly what has so many folks so pissed off at the commercial webcasters. They got their deal. Every one else is on their own.
Yes I know, misery loves company. "If I am hurting, I at least want you all to hurt as well." The emphasis I make here is, again, it's an addition to current rates, not a transition or change. Nobody crafted anything to Hurt you. So instead of complaining, my good sir, why don't you band together with your hobbyist friends and get a hobbyist deal added in addition to this that you like (and that RIAA will like).
Do you imagine that there is going to be another bill to address hobby webcasting
As I suggested above, it's a free country more or less, why don't you get a band of like minded webcasters who can afford to pay $523 to musicians a year, but not afford $500 to recording artists a year, and make the best of it.
Don't make me laugh. The commercial webcasters have taken over the one chance that we all had to say "Stop! the CARP deal is wrong!" and they turned it into a "small commercial webcaster deal" (your words)
Absoutely wrong, this bill has nothing to do with saying "CARP is wrong!" That's not the way the process works. I remind you, again, that APPEALS are going forward, that's one way to say it's wrong. An addition or amendment to something, is no way to say it's wrong. You may argue you might not get another amendment, but don't say you won't have the chance of saying the rates are wrong altogether! That's still going on. I suggest you grab a group of like-minded webcasters who can once again afford the musicians (ASCAP, BMI, SESAC) $523 per year, but not $500 year for minimum recording fees, and go forth with appeals.
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Mmm, yes sir, CARP = death Unless you are under 20 concurrent listeners. What good is this if only stations with 10 listeners survive, and they cannot grow. Because once they grow beyond 20 or so, CARP = death. In other words, CARP is bearable only under 20 listeners (nobody said it's good, it's terrible!!!) What I have said is, if you are a small hobbyist it is assumed that you want your listeners to grow (Like a hobby of collecting stamps. You don't stop at 10 stamps, the hobby is to collect them). Then until you get to about 20 listeners you'd use the CARP rate because it's cheaper, but beyond that it becomes unbearable, and this bill is the only thing *so far* that will permit you to conitune your hobby beyond that.
Our station is still a hobby, and was a hobby from day one with 5-10 listeners. First you CAN get some cash, and you might afford $500 a year for a hobby (otherwsie get a hobby you can afford, that's tough life). Maybe I like to build a sports car out of my regular car as a hobby, but I can't afford it. Who do I complain to? See more below...
I can't say I agree. It certainly makes it tough, but it's "doable." If there is a will there's a way. Here's the big question though. $500 a year is only the year's minimum for recording works. You ALREADY have to pay around $523 or more combined a year minimum to ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC? Are you assuming that's already paid for? So you have multiple problems with your hobby. Either you can't pay almost anything to anyone, or you pay. Don't complain to me it's too expensive, that's a fact of life. Nobody said a hobby has to be subsidized by anyone.
Yes I know, misery loves company. "If I am hurting, I at least want you all to hurt as well." The emphasis I make here is, again, it's an addition to current rates, not a transition or change. Nobody crafted anything to Hurt you. So instead of complaining, my good sir, why don't you band together with your hobbyist friends and get a hobbyist deal added in addition to this that you like (and that RIAA will like).
As I suggested above, it's a free country more or less, why don't you get a band of like minded webcasters who can afford to pay $523 to musicians a year, but not afford $500 to recording artists a year, and make the best of it.
Absoutely wrong, this bill has nothing to do with saying "CARP is wrong!" That's not the way the process works. I remind you, again, that APPEALS are going forward, that's one way to say it's wrong. An addition or amendment to something, is no way to say it's wrong. You may argue you might not get another amendment, but don't say you won't have the chance of saying the rates are wrong altogether! That's still going on. I suggest you grab a group of like-minded webcasters who can once again afford the musicians (ASCAP, BMI, SESAC) $523 per year, but not $500 year for minimum recording fees, and go forth with appeals.