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  1. Online Banking is implemented - in Germany (HBCI) on GnuCash - A Call For Help · · Score: 1

    The German banks use an online banking protocol (yes, a *protocol* -- not only a file format) that is publicly available, called HBCI (HomeBanking Computer Interface). Guess what? It's already implemented in Gnucash through the OpenHBCI library. I can download transaction statements *and* make online money transfers right from inside Gnucash now.

    Point is, online banking (just as the bank systems in general) is totally country-dependent, which limits both your developer and your user base. For countries which fortunately have some openly available standard it is possible to implement this in an OpenSource project.

  2. Other countries: HBCI online banking in Germany on The Future of Money · · Score: 2, Informative

    For non-U.S. residents it is a bit suprising that all geeks here really only discuss the monetary/banking system inside the U.S.. Please please listen: In other countries things are alreay waaay different.

    E.g. I mean, here in Germany we have a banking system with fully functioning direct deposit/direct debits which can be used by almost everybody, not only big business. These direct money transfers work at small cost (probably $0.10-$0.30 per transaction, but not something like 1% of the amount) and usually with at most 1-2 days of delay. This is the reason why something like Paypal wasn't necessary at all in Germany -- the German banks already offer these services by themselves.

    We have the bank-independent online banking protocol HBCI, with a free implementation here and GnuCash supporting it. This means that for a direct deposit (money transfer) I can directly enter the destination account in a GUI form in GnuCash, enter my secret RSA key passphrase, and *pow* the money goes its way. Same way for statement retrieval -- no screen scraping anymore or browser incompatibilities. HBCI is a full protocol so all these business actions are fully specified in that protocol, and no web browser is needed anymore.

    cstim