Some sites also degrade gracefully to support people who disable Javascript. That doesn't mean you get as good a user experience as those who have it enabled, though.
Is anyone else having problems with the ACID2 page? It's not rendering correctly for me in either Opera 9.24 or Safari 3.0.4 Beta for Windows on my PC.
I'm fairly sure that they were both rendering correctly a few weeks ago.
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IE 8 Passes Acid2 Test
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With all the puling about IE not being compliant with the arbitary standards set by a bunch of MS-haters...
Extra, extra, Microsoft Corporation is an MS-hater! News at 11!
There's perhaps five or six thousand people worldwide who are knowledgeable enough to produce a fully standards compliant, accessible website. Not all them work in web development and fewer still teach.
I think you're underestimating that number by cutting out the people who are knowledgeable to create a fully standards compliant website, but realize that it is not in their best interest to create a website that alienates 2/3 of their potential viewers.
So says the anonymous coward. What, are you afraid that the people who agree that unlimited really does mean unlimited would mod your post into obvilion?
I didn't use Google to look up SDL, I knew about it long before that. It was present in the Unreal Tournament server distribution back when I ran a private UT server something like 6-8 years ago.
My best guess is that MS is licensing to machine retailers at some ridiculously low rate of like $35 for a $299 install, to insure we get it rammed down our throats whether we want it or not. This being the case, MS is taking a calculated loss on Vista, evidently hoping to get more windows users for whatever comes after vista? I don't think it's going to work out that way?
You're making the naive assumption that $35 per copy is a loss for Microsoft. It isn't like the Xbox division where every Xbox 360 they sell loses them money. Once MS breaks even on Vista, every copy sold after that is a net gain.
Speaking of SMTP, do you know where to get the failure form that people post in the comments every time someone suggests something to replace it? I can't find my copy of it.
Every year, I hear the same thing: IPV4's going to run out of addresses. It's not like global warming-- it's a finite number of routes. The number of them still exceeds an address for every single human on the face of the earth * a nice multiplier. Fie.
Right now, the US census bureau's World Popclock reads 6,638,154,204.
IPv4 has 2^32 (or 4,294,967,296) addresses, without subtracting off all the addresses used for network and broadcast addresses.
I think someone is either overestimating the number of IPv4 addresses or underestimating the world population.
Again, not a killer app. Business users went from 2000 to Pro because they needed domain support. Home users were predominantly running 98, so the XP Home edition is hardly a killer app.
98 to XP was a huge leap forward in stability. I remember the daily crashes of 98, which, in my experience, crashed more than Windows 95 did. I don't know about ME, because I never tried it.
If you want to be pedantic about it the `kill' command doesn't really kill a process. All it does is send a signal to the process and, typically, the process doesn't try to process the signal so it takes the default action, which is to kill the process.
It was my understanding that this didn't apply to SIGKILL. Otherwise, a process could ignore a SIGKILL, which would make it no different than SIGTERM.
I always imagined that the SIGKILL signal is a directive to the init process (which is indirectly the parent process of everything else) to forcefully end the process with pid x. One of these days, I should look into the code of kill and see how that actually works.
Snopes actually talks about what New Coke was and why Coca-Cola tried to switch to it.
When traditional methods of developing a new taste failed, Coca-Cola pulled a reverse on the old method of creating diet soft drinks. Diet Coke was stripped of its artificial sweeteners, and high fructose corn syrup was added in their place. After a year of fiddling with the flavor balances, New Coke was finally as good as the company could make it. It tasted smoother and sweeter than original Coke, more like Pepsi. Sounds like a good idea so far, eh? Well, it sounded like an even better one when the results came in from a battery of taste tests utilizing the new formula. People said they liked the new Coke better than Coca-Cola or Pepsi, and by a significant factor, too. Taste for taste, it was a winner.
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So what happened? When Coke went ahead with its plan, an immediate and very loud outcry was raised. Long before they'd tasted a sip of it, millions of Americans had decided they hated New Coke. Yes, in blind taste tests people had consistently said they liked the new formula better. However, a soft drink is so much more than merely its flavor; a soda is also its marketing. Coke had spent more than a hundred years convincing the North American population that its product was an integral part of their lives, their very identities. Taste be damned: to do away with Coca-Cola was to rip something vital from the American soul. Americans (never ones to peaceably go along with anything perceived as violating their identity) weren't going to stand for it, and they weren't shy about saying so.
So, essentially New Coke was liked better than old Coke, but because Coca-Cola is an American icon, Americans wouldn't buy New Coke.
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Some sites also degrade gracefully to support people who disable Javascript. That doesn't mean you get as good a user experience as those who have it enabled, though.
Nah, they just used document.confirm, but changed confirm to allow Yes/No with am undocumented second argument!
This was a triumph. I'm making a note here: huge success. It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.
But wait, didn't Super Mario Bros. 3 hit the Wii Virtual Console this year? So, can't we count it anyway?
Um, that's desktop memory, not laptop memory.
I know it's dumb responding to a troll, but I will anyway.
NEWS FLASH! I've been around Slashdot longer than Jombeewoof, and my existance as a separate person can be independently verified.
Is anyone else having problems with the ACID2 page? It's not rendering correctly for me in either Opera 9.24 or Safari 3.0.4 Beta for Windows on my PC.
I'm fairly sure that they were both rendering correctly a few weeks ago.
Extra, extra, Microsoft Corporation is an MS-hater! News at 11!
Yeah, it's not a brand spanking new line like the grandparent said.
Oh, wait...
I think you're underestimating that number by cutting out the people who are knowledgeable to create a fully standards compliant website, but realize that it is not in their best interest to create a website that alienates 2/3 of their potential viewers.
So says the anonymous coward. What, are you afraid that the people who agree that unlimited really does mean unlimited would mod your post into obvilion?
Fortunately, its replacement Squirrels (Multiple) Transport Protocol (SMTP) is more reliable.
I didn't use Google to look up SDL, I knew about it long before that. It was present in the Unreal Tournament server distribution back when I ran a private UT server something like 6-8 years ago.
I think they were implying that broadband become available to home users around six years ago.
I'm pretty sure they're wrong, though. I've had broadband for at least six years, and it was being rolled out before that.
He's hoping they can create a self-replicating AI that doesn't take over the world.
You seem to be confusing Pirates of Silicon Valley with Triumph of the Nerds, which is an actual documentary.
Wow, Microsoft uses SDL in their products?
Does this mean we'll be seeing IIS on Linux or OSX soon?
You're making the naive assumption that $35 per copy is a loss for Microsoft. It isn't like the Xbox division where every Xbox 360 they sell loses them money. Once MS breaks even on Vista, every copy sold after that is a net gain.
Speaking of SMTP, do you know where to get the failure form that people post in the comments every time someone suggests something to replace it? I can't find my copy of it.
You're preaching to the choir. I've pointed out before how ludicrous a 128-bit address size was.
Right now, the US census bureau's World Popclock reads 6,638,154,204.
IPv4 has 2^32 (or 4,294,967,296) addresses, without subtracting off all the addresses used for network and broadcast addresses.
I think someone is either overestimating the number of IPv4 addresses or underestimating the world population.
6638154204 > 4294967296
98 to XP was a huge leap forward in stability. I remember the daily crashes of 98, which, in my experience, crashed more than Windows 95 did. I don't know about ME, because I never tried it.
It was my understanding that this didn't apply to SIGKILL. Otherwise, a process could ignore a SIGKILL, which would make it no different than SIGTERM.
I always imagined that the SIGKILL signal is a directive to the init process (which is indirectly the parent process of everything else) to forcefully end the process with pid x. One of these days, I should look into the code of kill and see how that actually works.
I'll be honest, I have no clue how to create a GUI using MFC, but I can using the VS.NET WinForms editor fairly quickly.
So, essentially New Coke was liked better than old Coke, but because Coca-Cola is an American icon, Americans wouldn't buy New Coke.