The only person that ever said Saddam had nuclear weapons was Sen Rockefeller in a Senate floor speech. This it would seem makes his assessment correct. The UN had said Saddam had 350 tins, looks like a little mating in the yellowcake bin was going on. Yellowcake is feed stock for centrifuges, like what Iran is now doing. Centrifuges produce bomb material, centrifugues like those described in the book, "The bomb in my garden".
Oil for WMDs was a success, who knew.
I guess Saddam would have just told the UN to take a hike, like Iran did, if Iraq needed to get on with business.
BTW, does this exonerate all those speeches given by lying Democrats about the Saddam weapons, or the liar BJ Clinton who put Saddam on the 'kill list' in 1998 over WMDs or Hillary who did her own independent research when she gave her Senate floor speech -- A good speech I might add. The notion that Bush lied to all these Democrats and they just sat there dumbfounded, makes them look, well, ummm, dumb.
BDS suffers need to get a life.
Drill here drill now, pay less. Democrats have caused the artificial oil crisis
Actually if you pay attention, you would find the Islamo-facists hate everyone that is not a Muslim. The entire creed of the bin Laden crew is to subjugate the world for their pleasure. Read up on the subject. Freedom and Islam doesn't mix -- just ask a lady who dares take off their headscarf in a Muslim country.
The whole 'lie thing' is getting old. Bumbling bureaucracies have made all sorts of mistakes since the beginning. Presntly I am satisfied with the mistakes being made for safety instead of letting some nut with a nuke blow up Dallas. Yep, I am from Texas, so call me biased.
We can always correct what might be wrong when the Islamo-Facisst are defeated. It is a war, ask OBL, he declared it as such back in 1998.
Why would you do this? A Sun dual Opteron workstation would be a nice CAD upgrade. Run windows, JDS, Red Hat or Solaris 9/10. Cheap as anybody's WS. Dual boot whatever combo you want.
Single Opteron Ws, same deal.
Server's same deal. Solaris, Red Hat, SUSE or Windows server, you choose. Sun's X86 and Opteron servers are as cheap as any out there. Same with the software, Linux or other.
Sun could easily install dual boot JDS on the PCs that run windows. Sun also sells RH, all flavors.
" Bad example. in the current big DE's (kde/gnome) common digital cameras work mostly seamlessly. plug it, kamera comes up, download photos, live your life.
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Guess my clients need new cameras. Theirs don't work. Oh yeah, some will be supported in the next release.
Business users wouldn't have a clue what you are talking about. Most walk in to a store and shop price. I've bought enough stuff for them and gone shopping with them to know. Tech savvy knowledge goes down as the square of the distance from San Jose.
Alot of my clients need multimedia for day to day work use. Linux is barely functional. Linux takes a lot of effort to setup and keep running. SUSE is so far the closest, but still needs help. Unfortunately windows just works and doesn't need any extras.
From a joe user view too many choices is Linux's downfall. The vast market lies with the joe average users. I am currently moving users to Linux and it is a big problem.
As an example, Linux needs a way to make digital cameras work seamlessly. Having ten desktop choices doesn't do anything for the joe average user who barely can use one.
I think Bruce Perens has the right idea, but given the Linux development types mind set it won't fly.
Having choice brings with it too much complexity for joe average to handle. Nothing wrong with choices, they just need to be hidden from joe.
the "interest of the community" is the sum of the "individual beliefs". Your phrase is, therefore, contradictory in terms.
Sheesh, there are too many fanatics who speak too loudly. The community is not comprised of those with the loudest voices. Or even those which actually write the software. Users are never considered when I hear these know-it-alls speak. They always speak for the user. That is what I think is the problem with Linux.
If Linux is to succeed it will because of companies offering what users want, features and support. Otherwise Linux will be just another hobby. May be why developers develop and marketing/sales sells.
The current fractured state of Linux is it's wealth and it's downfall. Users can't contend with choices for an OS that extend into the 100s. They simply want one OS which works. Linux developers would be wise to figure that out. Maybe Bruce Perens has.
Question, do you think a joe average user cares about whether it is Java running, or do you think Joe cares that it works?
It usually strikes me as a group of lacto-ovo vegetarians getting kicked out of a vegetarian group because they eat eggs. To the world of carnivores, it looks strange, but to the arguing vegetarians, it's a matter of deep conviction.
Now that describes it perfectly. I have to file this for future reference.
I often wonder if OSS can ever act in the interests of the community rather than individual beliefs. My guess is that this belief thinking is what scares a lot of users off, especially businesses. It is clearly in the interest of the community to have a real alternative to VB.
Java is essentially OSS as it is today. Sun just retains the right to make the final call. If Sun doesn't call it right the community squaks enough to get it changed.
Now why would the GPL stop MS from forking and releasing the code? It would be an endless game of tag with everyone following around after MS trying to incorporate the last Java changes MS made.
The GPL prevents nothing. Just forces disclosure at some point.
Add in a nice time delay, like many distro do today with their GPL code and you have incompatibility hell. Run by MS.
Since Knoppix comes with java on the disk just use that. Methinks there is some other problem with distributing JAVA that has nothing to do with Sun.
This whole thing is so over blown. For once I agree with McNealy. If there were anything MS could do to kill JAVA they would do it. Why the rest of the open source software community doesn't recognize what is going on is beyond me.
Forking JAVA would spell death to the portability. MS would have their fork the first day, don't you think?
IMHO the OSS companies ought to embrace JAVA. It is the best defense preventing against Visual Basic, or visual anything, from taking over the world. It is also portable.
But if VB wins, what will Linux do then? Ask MS to port VB to Linux? That ought to be interesting.
Motors are motors. er make that engines. Size is not hard to scale up or down.
My comment was about the so-called patent for 'configuration'.
You may find it interesting that motors of large size are built essentially the same as motors of small size. Take a look at some disassembled. A friend owns a motor re-build shop. He has plenty if you need to look at them.
He limits the hp rating he works on, only because he has tools which can only work with motors up to 100 or so hp. Bigger tooling, bigger motors. The bus is built by the auto company.
The disk drive hub motor is the exact configuration as this articles' so called engine. The spindle motor is "inside out", ie the outside, with the disks mounted to it spins. The center shaft, which would spin in a normal motor configuration, is stationary.
Why does the Linux kernel have to be changed? Why not just stop where we are. Unless of course you want the latest innovative ideas.
The way to insure that innovation is real is to use Linux to innovate with. Then if the innovation works with Linux it should work with the proprietary platforms. Demand it. No lock-in.
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The only person that ever said Saddam had nuclear weapons was Sen Rockefeller in a Senate floor speech. This it would seem makes his assessment correct. The UN had said Saddam had 350 tins, looks like a little mating in the yellowcake bin was going on. Yellowcake is feed stock for centrifuges, like what Iran is now doing. Centrifuges produce bomb material, centrifugues like those described in the book, "The bomb in my garden". Oil for WMDs was a success, who knew. I guess Saddam would have just told the UN to take a hike, like Iran did, if Iraq needed to get on with business. BTW, does this exonerate all those speeches given by lying Democrats about the Saddam weapons, or the liar BJ Clinton who put Saddam on the 'kill list' in 1998 over WMDs or Hillary who did her own independent research when she gave her Senate floor speech -- A good speech I might add. The notion that Bush lied to all these Democrats and they just sat there dumbfounded, makes them look, well, ummm, dumb. BDS suffers need to get a life. Drill here drill now, pay less. Democrats have caused the artificial oil crisis
Yep that's the ticket -- Use OpenSolaris instead.
Don't you just love it when the Linux Bigots think ecveryone should be in business to give away all they develop with their money.
We switched to OpenSolaris. It's great. Some day, the Linux crowd will see the light, but probably be too late.
Wonder why the Mozilla foundation isn't attacked the way Sun is, they use the same license.
So tell me again why should I spend my money developing software and just give it away?
Actually if you pay attention, you would find the Islamo-facists hate everyone that is not a Muslim. The entire creed of the bin Laden crew is to subjugate the world for their pleasure. Read up on the subject. Freedom and Islam doesn't mix -- just ask a lady who dares take off their headscarf in a Muslim country. The whole 'lie thing' is getting old. Bumbling bureaucracies have made all sorts of mistakes since the beginning. Presntly I am satisfied with the mistakes being made for safety instead of letting some nut with a nuke blow up Dallas. Yep, I am from Texas, so call me biased. We can always correct what might be wrong when the Islamo-Facisst are defeated. It is a war, ask OBL, he declared it as such back in 1998.
Why would you do this? A Sun dual Opteron workstation would be a nice CAD upgrade. Run windows, JDS, Red Hat or Solaris 9/10. Cheap as anybody's WS. Dual boot whatever combo you want.
Single Opteron Ws, same deal.
Server's same deal. Solaris, Red Hat, SUSE or Windows server, you choose. Sun's X86 and Opteron servers are as cheap as any out there. Same with the software, Linux or other.
Sun could easily install dual boot JDS on the PCs that run windows. Sun also sells RH, all flavors.
The whole thing strikes me as wishful thinking.
Sun has been careful to maintain their licenses. If they say they will open source it, they will.
SCO will need lots more lawyers to sue the whole computer industry.
What if Sun were to merge Solaris with the FreeBDS project?
Round and round it goes.
Guess RH needs another proprietary kernel for this market. A kernel per market keeps the competitors at bay.
'White box II' looks like the only way mere mortals will be able to get a copy of this open source product as well.
Guess my clients need new cameras. Theirs don't work. Oh yeah, some will be supported in the next release.
Business users wouldn't have a clue what you are talking about. Most walk in to a store and shop price. I've bought enough stuff for them and gone shopping with them to know. Tech savvy knowledge goes down as the square of the distance from San Jose.
Alot of my clients need multimedia for day to day work use. Linux is barely functional. Linux takes a lot of effort to setup and keep running. SUSE is so far the closest, but still needs help. Unfortunately windows just works and doesn't need any extras.
As an example, Linux needs a way to make digital cameras work seamlessly. Having ten desktop choices doesn't do anything for the joe average user who barely can use one.
I think Bruce Perens has the right idea, but given the Linux development types mind set it won't fly.
Having choice brings with it too much complexity for joe average to handle. Nothing wrong with choices, they just need to be hidden from joe.
Sheesh, there are too many fanatics who speak too loudly. The community is not comprised of those with the loudest voices. Or even those which actually write the software. Users are never considered when I hear these know-it-alls speak. They always speak for the user. That is what I think is the problem with Linux.
If Linux is to succeed it will because of companies offering what users want, features and support. Otherwise Linux will be just another hobby. May be why developers develop and marketing/sales sells.
The current fractured state of Linux is it's wealth and it's downfall. Users can't contend with choices for an OS that extend into the 100s. They simply want one OS which works. Linux developers would be wise to figure that out. Maybe Bruce Perens has.
Question, do you think a joe average user cares about whether it is Java running, or do you think Joe cares that it works?
Now that describes it perfectly. I have to file this for future reference.
I often wonder if OSS can ever act in the interests of the community rather than individual beliefs. My guess is that this belief thinking is what scares a lot of users off, especially businesses. It is clearly in the interest of the community to have a real alternative to VB.
Java is essentially OSS as it is today. Sun just retains the right to make the final call. If Sun doesn't call it right the community squaks enough to get it changed.
Now why would the GPL stop MS from forking and releasing the code? It would be an endless game of tag with everyone following around after MS trying to incorporate the last Java changes MS made.
The GPL prevents nothing. Just forces disclosure at some point.
Add in a nice time delay, like many distro do today with their GPL code and you have incompatibility hell. Run by MS.
Sorry but this isn't progress.
I use the 2-16-04 version. Works fine for me. Java runs out of the box.
This whole thing is so over blown. For once I agree with McNealy. If there were anything MS could do to kill JAVA they would do it. Why the rest of the open source software community doesn't recognize what is going on is beyond me.
Forking JAVA would spell death to the portability. MS would have their fork the first day, don't you think?
IMHO the OSS companies ought to embrace JAVA. It is the best defense preventing against Visual Basic, or visual anything, from taking over the world. It is also portable.
But if VB wins, what will Linux do then? Ask MS to port VB to Linux? That ought to be interesting.
tb
Or did the penguin?
MS just says whatever they think the public will buy.
So is there going to be a MS apology to Sun? Or can companies publicly lie about others and get a pass?
My comment was about the so-called patent for 'configuration'.
You may find it interesting that motors of large size are built essentially the same as motors of small size. Take a look at some disassembled. A friend owns a motor re-build shop. He has plenty if you need to look at them.
He limits the hp rating he works on, only because he has tools which can only work with motors up to 100 or so hp. Bigger tooling, bigger motors. The bus is built by the auto company.
The disk drive hub motor is the exact configuration as this articles' so called engine. The spindle motor is "inside out", ie the outside, with the disks mounted to it spins. The center shaft, which would spin in a normal motor configuration, is stationary.
Nearly every disk drive on the market uses this same "invention". Have been using it for many many years. tb
Why does the Linux kernel have to be changed? Why not just stop where we are. Unless of course you want the latest innovative ideas.
The way to insure that innovation is real is to use Linux to innovate with. Then if the innovation works with Linux it should work with the proprietary platforms. Demand it. No lock-in.
tb