It depends on what you think fun is. If you think that fun means tweaking here and there to find that optimization that will give you a 10% speedup, or save you a few bytes, then you are right. I agree that there's nothing wrong with that. But there is also the opposite side: by having no worries about system limitations, memory limits, I can concentrate only on the problem I'm solving. When I HAVE to program, not for fun, but for work, and deliver the result fast, I'd prefer a language like Java, that abstracts the system's limitations.
But before you say that I'm not a real programmer, let me clarify: I also like low level languages. But an 8 bit machine just seems a little too low level for me;o)
I'm glad I was too young to use that
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I'm glad I didn't use computers back then. Actually I was still a baby, thanks God! What a horrible user experience it should be!
But the worst part was probably having to program these machines. 8 bit assembly code, tweaks all around, memory and speed concerns... It's much better to write a Java program in a 2.0 Ghz machine with 512 MB memory.
Perhaps MSN is doing that on purpose. But i'd rather think that what is really going on is what happens with every webmaster that needs to keep track of the one billion different browsers out there. You just can't do it, and sometimes it will break up.
MSN (and other Microsoft sites) is very IE-centric. It uses several IE features, so probably it would already seem broken to Opera or Mozilla users. Probably that's why they serve a different stylesheet, to make the site work with other browsers. The reason why it doesn't work? Well... do you expect any Microsoft product to work flawlessly?;o)
Just kidding, of course. I think it doesn't work with Opera because nobody uses Opera anyway:o)
OK, I am a computer Geek. I like to learn about new technologies. I like to hack code. I even code for fun.
But I do have a social life, so I'm not willing to lose a whole day just to configure my desktop, or two days to install a new package. This is waste of time, and I won't waste my time with things that aren't related to my hobby: programming.
Of course, I use computers for other things: surf the net, get the latest news, read and answer email. When I am doing that, I want the smoothest user experience possible. I want smooth graphics. Want integrated applications. Want them all available within a click. I want most things the avarage user wants. You don't need to be an average user to want a good desktop.
I wonder why it took so long for them to realize that.
Having multiple desktop environments is a Good Thing. But having them incompatible with each other, as well as their applications, is a serious bad thing.
Of course it isn't the only thing that holds the regular user away from Linux, but that's another subject.
Don't think host providers will move away from CGI's. That's why most users subscribe their services. If I'm going to have only static content, there is plenty of free hosting services that give me that for free.
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But before you say that I'm not a real programmer, let me clarify: I also like low level languages. But an 8 bit machine just seems a little too low level for me ;o)
But the worst part was probably having to program these machines. 8 bit assembly code, tweaks all around, memory and speed concerns... It's much better to write a Java program in a 2.0 Ghz machine with 512 MB memory.
I wonder how they did that in only 4 days
No, it shouldn't. Not when they have 90% of the market share. This is monopolium, not free competition, and the same rules don't apply in this case.
Why should Microsoft bother? Opera's market share isn't exactly a threat to IE :o)
MSN (and other Microsoft sites) is very IE-centric. It uses several IE features, so probably it would already seem broken to Opera or Mozilla users. Probably that's why they serve a different stylesheet, to make the site work with other browsers. The reason why it doesn't work? Well... do you expect any Microsoft product to work flawlessly? ;o)
Just kidding, of course. I think it doesn't work with Opera because nobody uses Opera anyway :o)
But I do have a social life, so I'm not willing to lose a whole day just to configure my desktop, or two days to install a new package. This is waste of time, and I won't waste my time with things that aren't related to my hobby: programming.
Of course, I use computers for other things: surf the net, get the latest news, read and answer email. When I am doing that, I want the smoothest user experience possible. I want smooth graphics. Want integrated applications. Want them all available within a click. I want most things the avarage user wants. You don't need to be an average user to want a good desktop.
The wonders of technology! :o)
Will Slashdot get paid a comission for each sales made to Slashdot readers? :o)
No, I'm being unfair. IOCCC code is much easier to understand :o)
Wait a few days and you'll see RIAA trying to sue them :o)
Having multiple desktop environments is a Good Thing. But having them incompatible with each other, as well as their applications, is a serious bad thing.
Of course it isn't the only thing that holds the regular user away from Linux, but that's another subject.
Don't think host providers will move away from CGI's. That's why most users subscribe their services. If I'm going to have only static content, there is plenty of free hosting services that give me that for free.
The quote above is really stupid.