No. It won't sync audio, so if you have two zones in audible range (say "living room" and "kitchen") you will hear a very annoying echo between them. Sonos gets this right and Airplay (mostly) gets it right. The open-source Airplay clone Shairport doesn't quite have it right, but you can screw with the buffer until it is good enough. Allplay does it in theory, but I don't have any devices (or music players) to test it.
You have to admit, there is some mechanism in our brains which releases all sorts of lovely neurotransmitters when we take credit for discovering something before another person.
I still use it, though, because I haven't found another solution that: - Organizes my music and lets me rate it - Plays over synchronized remote speakers (like Airplay) - Allows itself to be remote-controlled from Android, iOS, etc.
I'd love to move my music to my FreeBSD server, but right now I'm stuck leaving my computer on all the time and serving it from there. Allplay (the Qualcomm effort to compete with Airplay) has me hopeful, though Airplay has already been reverse-engineered.
The modern manufacturer just can't afford to have expensive engineers futzing around with processor limitations.
That's not really true. An engineer costs maybe $100,000-150,000 per year. If you sell 100,000 units and save a buck a part, you've paid for the engineer time for a whole year. I don't know what the sales volume for LG washing machines is, but I'd bet it's in the millions - and probably they can use basically the same controller board with minor revs for a number of years (until the parts go obsolete). We make stuff with much lower volumes - in the 10,000 range - and we sweat over dollars here and there all the time. That said, the newest embedded ARM stuff looks pretty sweet, and I wouldn't doubt that it will show up in more and more applications.
I was referring to their x86 transition. Their iPhone support is OK in comparison to the competition, but remember that the 3GS was still sold until only 2 years ago. That's less that 2 years of support, though I suppose relatively few people would keep their phone longer than that. The Mac support has been pretty good recently except for the original x86 Core Duo devices, which got dropped with Lion. IMHO, the Mac situation is more serious since computers get kept forever. For instance, I have a perfectly serviceable G5 machine which is perfect for the kids, but that gets no security updates. It is completely orphaned. My mother-in-law has a 2004 HP laptop of similar age to my G5 that still gets XP updates. I'm not sore about it at this stage - it is 9 years old! - but I was sore about it back when 10.5 went unsupported with no successor.
I'm going to use that! It's like being really good at slaughtering puppies. I learned VBA almost 20 years ago, and got a reputation for being good with it. Here I am, all these years later still stuck doing stuff in it once in a while.
Not just their marketing department... I seriously doubt that ARM itself is going to develop the 32-bit platform much beyond where it is today. And if they ever decide to jump to Intel, Atom is also 64-bit.
I didn't mean depreciate the chips, I meant depreciate the XCode 32-bit stuff. Mac is all 64-bit now, so the only reason for them to maintain 32-bit tools is for 32-bit ARM.
I wrote perhaps my worst bit of code ever and set it to run over the weekend before I left the office. I need to test something in VBA (ugh), but didn't have a permutation algorithm to run through all of the possibilities. I looked at the clock and saw that it was almost the weekend, so my computer had 2 extra days of crunch time if need be, so I went ghetto: I ran the "perms" command in MATLAB, cut-and-pasted the resulting matrix into Excel, and wrote a few lines of VBA to pull in the matrix row-by-row and then return the results back into the spreadsheet. It's ugly, but if it works then I'll be all done on Monday, and I will never speak of this again:)
You are absolutely right. The whole summary doesn't make any sense at all... first of all, the Macs run 32-bit applications just fine. Second, if you can emulate a 64-bit ARM, you can emulate a 32-bit ARM. Third, phone apps would suck on a laptop or desktop.
I suspect they went to 64-bit for the simple reason that it is the direction ARM is going. This processor design is likely to show up in their lower-end products for years after it leaves their flagship device, and the sooner they go to 64-bit, the sooner they can depreciate the 32-bit stuff. Unless the 64-bit chip cost significantly more to design, produce, or unless it has a significant performance penalty, there is no reason to delay making it.
I'm fine with your characterization. I think the choice of what word to use to describe it is somewhat unimportant, the fact is that the phenomenon exists.
Democrats tend to disfavor "fat cats" and the "1%", while Republicans tend frown upon unions, public employees, and the the "ivory tower". I just wanted to point out that the mechanism by which they come to hate these people is pretty much the same. I called it "envy", but I'm happy to call it "dislke of those who are protected from competition".
Mine has to be at least that old. The remote is brown plastic, for goodness sakes. My mother-in-law's is even older. 20 years old doesn't seem that old anymore when you are middle aged:) My air conditioner is from 1984, but sadly I must retire it as R-22 is too damn expensive now.
I think that the argument was that the airwaves were public, and so those who benefit from the transition should pay some of the cost to those forced to transition?
Anyway, LCDs don't seem to have the life of those old CRTs, and OTA tuners seem less abundant in general, so it may not be as big an issue. There is an initial "backwards compatible" stage - hopefully they can make the next generation of sets more forwards compatible during that stage. I dunno, it's definitely a first-world problem!:)
Because we have a stupid primary system with only two parties. When I was in NYC, I registered Democrat so that I could vote in the election that actually determined the winner: the primary. With the exception of oddball Bloomberg, there were hardly any Republican candidates at all in the NYC November elections, and the ones that were on the ballot were generally unopposed in the primary. It's stupid, but there you go.
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No. It won't sync audio, so if you have two zones in audible range (say "living room" and "kitchen") you will hear a very annoying echo between them. Sonos gets this right and Airplay (mostly) gets it right. The open-source Airplay clone Shairport doesn't quite have it right, but you can screw with the buffer until it is good enough. Allplay does it in theory, but I don't have any devices (or music players) to test it.
From all the videos on MTV!
You have to admit, there is some mechanism in our brains which releases all sorts of lovely neurotransmitters when we take credit for discovering something before another person.
But television... that's all about serious work!
I still use it, though, because I haven't found another solution that:
- Organizes my music and lets me rate it
- Plays over synchronized remote speakers (like Airplay)
- Allows itself to be remote-controlled from Android, iOS, etc.
I'd love to move my music to my FreeBSD server, but right now I'm stuck leaving my computer on all the time and serving it from there. Allplay (the Qualcomm effort to compete with Airplay) has me hopeful, though Airplay has already been reverse-engineered.
The modern manufacturer just can't afford to have expensive engineers futzing around with processor limitations.
That's not really true. An engineer costs maybe $100,000-150,000 per year. If you sell 100,000 units and save a buck a part, you've paid for the engineer time for a whole year. I don't know what the sales volume for LG washing machines is, but I'd bet it's in the millions - and probably they can use basically the same controller board with minor revs for a number of years (until the parts go obsolete). We make stuff with much lower volumes - in the 10,000 range - and we sweat over dollars here and there all the time. That said, the newest embedded ARM stuff looks pretty sweet, and I wouldn't doubt that it will show up in more and more applications.
I see now, said the hammer and saw.
Thank, I _WAS_ enjoying my breakfast until that.
2 years seems to be their track record between getting discontinued and ending support, IIRC.
The 5C game is not really new - in the past they just sold their flagship
I was referring to their x86 transition. Their iPhone support is OK in comparison to the competition, but remember that the 3GS was still sold until only 2 years ago. That's less that 2 years of support, though I suppose relatively few people would keep their phone longer than that. The Mac support has been pretty good recently except for the original x86 Core Duo devices, which got dropped with Lion. IMHO, the Mac situation is more serious since computers get kept forever. For instance, I have a perfectly serviceable G5 machine which is perfect for the kids, but that gets no security updates. It is completely orphaned. My mother-in-law has a 2004 HP laptop of similar age to my G5 that still gets XP updates. I'm not sore about it at this stage - it is 9 years old! - but I was sore about it back when 10.5 went unsupported with no successor.
I didn't even notice that I put the i in there, twice no less. If it matters at all, I at least say it right. :)
Your washing machine doesn't even need a 32-bit processor.
Apple is infamous for dropping older hardware.
I'm going to use that! It's like being really good at slaughtering puppies. I learned VBA almost 20 years ago, and got a reputation for being good with it. Here I am, all these years later still stuck doing stuff in it once in a while.
Not just their marketing department... I seriously doubt that ARM itself is going to develop the 32-bit platform much beyond where it is today. And if they ever decide to jump to Intel, Atom is also 64-bit.
I didn't mean depreciate the chips, I meant depreciate the XCode 32-bit stuff. Mac is all 64-bit now, so the only reason for them to maintain 32-bit tools is for 32-bit ARM.
They could have both ARM/x86 CPU's sharing a common memory, and so on.
That would be a neat setup, if they could run the ARM like a co-processor to avoid emulation. ARM is certainly cheap enough.
Good point - a touch screen Mac could be a lot like an iPad.
I wrote perhaps my worst bit of code ever and set it to run over the weekend before I left the office. I need to test something in VBA (ugh), but didn't have a permutation algorithm to run through all of the possibilities. I looked at the clock and saw that it was almost the weekend, so my computer had 2 extra days of crunch time if need be, so I went ghetto: I ran the "perms" command in MATLAB, cut-and-pasted the resulting matrix into Excel, and wrote a few lines of VBA to pull in the matrix row-by-row and then return the results back into the spreadsheet. It's ugly, but if it works then I'll be all done on Monday, and I will never speak of this again :)
You are absolutely right. The whole summary doesn't make any sense at all... first of all, the Macs run 32-bit applications just fine. Second, if you can emulate a 64-bit ARM, you can emulate a 32-bit ARM. Third, phone apps would suck on a laptop or desktop.
I suspect they went to 64-bit for the simple reason that it is the direction ARM is going. This processor design is likely to show up in their lower-end products for years after it leaves their flagship device, and the sooner they go to 64-bit, the sooner they can depreciate the 32-bit stuff. Unless the 64-bit chip cost significantly more to design, produce, or unless it has a significant performance penalty, there is no reason to delay making it.
I'm fine with your characterization. I think the choice of what word to use to describe it is somewhat unimportant, the fact is that the phenomenon exists.
Democrats tend to disfavor "fat cats" and the "1%", while Republicans tend frown upon unions, public employees, and the the "ivory tower". I just wanted to point out that the mechanism by which they come to hate these people is pretty much the same. I called it "envy", but I'm happy to call it "dislke of those who are protected from competition".
Mine has to be at least that old. The remote is brown plastic, for goodness sakes. My mother-in-law's is even older. 20 years old doesn't seem that old anymore when you are middle aged :) My air conditioner is from 1984, but sadly I must retire it as R-22 is too damn expensive now.
My insurance company specifies that it must be a monitored alarm, and I have to sign an affidavit to that effect.
I think that the argument was that the airwaves were public, and so those who benefit from the transition should pay some of the cost to those forced to transition?
Anyway, LCDs don't seem to have the life of those old CRTs, and OTA tuners seem less abundant in general, so it may not be as big an issue. There is an initial "backwards compatible" stage - hopefully they can make the next generation of sets more forwards compatible during that stage. I dunno, it's definitely a first-world problem! :)
Because we have a stupid primary system with only two parties. When I was in NYC, I registered Democrat so that I could vote in the election that actually determined the winner: the primary. With the exception of oddball Bloomberg, there were hardly any Republican candidates at all in the NYC November elections, and the ones that were on the ballot were generally unopposed in the primary. It's stupid, but there you go.