Those areas will urbanize over time, assuming that our population continues to increase. It's crazy to continue development without any urban planning.
What we're saying is that the size difference doesn't justify a 1K premium for slower hardware.
Don't you see how that is an opinion? Can't you see how people might value a 50% reduction in size?
The only way Dell would ever be close in price to Apple is if Dell started selling Apple products.
Dell and Apple use pretty much the same suppliers, and when they make similar machines they come in at similar prices. They don't always compete with one another directly, because Dell competes in both the low, mid, and high-end markets while Apple only offers stuff in the mid and high-end markets. Apple's range of offerings are also much smaller than Dell's.
Look, your only example of Apple's prices excess is a laptop that is much bigger. Can you show an example of another overpriced product? One that is perhaps a bit more similar in form factor?
Look, you can make your own value judgment about what is more important - size or price. Just don't pretend that the Dell is the same laptop. There is quite a bit of cost in making a laptop smaller without reducing performance.
You want to save $500 and get the bigger laptop with the lower battery life and the larger volume? By all means, it is your choice. Hell, I've certainly made that choice in the past.
But I'll tell you this, whenever I traveled with a company laptop, I always chose the smallest one.
I did that when I was single. I rented an apartment building within walking distance of my job, and I had that apartment until I got married. Then my wife got a job about half an hour away, so we had to move.
After a year, we moved to New York City, and I telecommuted while she worked across the street. It was a good gig, but only feasible because the apartment was subsidized.
So we moved again after the subsidy ran out, and now we picked a place that evenly split our two jobs. We both have to drive about 20 minutes. She could probably bike, but the neighborhood is too bad for her - especially the odd hours she works. Me? Forget it. The roads barely were built wide enough for cars - biking would be suicidal. There's public transit that gets me within biking distance, but perversely they will not let me bring my bike during rush hour.
Pardon? Where does OSX 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4, or 10.5 say upgrade? IIRC, it does not even say upgrade on 10.6. But you are leaping to conclusions. I neither have Snow Leopard, nor do I have a hackintosh.
Coercion? Seriously?
Re-read my comment. I was not claiming coercion. I was claiming that I did not agree to the EULA prior to sale. I'm objecting to post-sale contracts, not coercion.
Nitpicking? You were basically trying to make it sound like there might be some legal consequence to buying a netbook and putting OSX on it, which is ridiculous.
Unless you are trying to make money from selling OSX on netbooks, there is no "peril". Your sentence should read: "Break the agreement and suffer no legal repercussions whatsoever."
Seriously, where is my peril for building a Hackintosh. And if it is "illegal" to screw around with hardware and software that I've purchased without any kind of special contract, then seriously... fuck the law. That's just messed up.
If software vendors want me to follow special rules, then they can try to get me to sign a contract. The ethics are pretty clear when enter into a contract and you are not coerced to do so.
Okay, where has an INDIVIDUAL gotten into trouble for breaking an EULA? Seriously, what kind of peril could I possibly face when not a single soul has been hit up with an EULA lawsuit? The two "big" cases supporting the EULA that I know about are corporate in scale.
If you look at the pic the crack is in the bottom of the eye bar. meaning the center of the center of the eye bar tried to move in the direction of the crack (compresion force) but cracked the eye bar since it is the portion that has the highest stress concentration.
This is where I disagree with you. I think the crack is consistent with a stress fracture with the bar in tension. Google for "eyebar stress fracture" and you'll find all sorts of links to the Silver Bridge like this one, and it was clearly a failure under tensile loads.
I'm also an engineer, though of the mechanical variety. I took that EIT test years ago, but haven't worked under a PE for enough time so haven't gone that route. I did work for a corrosion laboratory as a co-op back in college, though. I never tested an eyebar, but did test metal to tensile failure quite often - usually to look for hydrogen embrittlement.
Yeah, that's the same thing that I read. The networking stack and all of those utilities like rcp, ftp, and rsh. I guess "a lot" means different things to different people.
For what it's worth, my sentence should have read like this to be more clear as to its intention: "The TCP/IP stack has apparently been re-written - but a lot of the BSD code still persists in Windows."
The original NT kernel, thrown together in a matter of days (for demonstration purposes, not for official release) by Dave Cutler is still there in the middle of their Windows 7.
If that's true, it is really impressive. XP is quite stable... not bad for a hack! But I suspect that a lot has changed in NT since 1988.
The TCP/IP stack has apparently been re-written - but a lot of BSD still persists in Windows. I was just using that to refute the grandparent's argument that Bill Gates is being hypocritical by exploiting an open source system and then going on to create closed source. In fact, he exploited a mixed open/closed source system and has gone on to create a mixed open/closed source system.
What needs to be done is people need to stop depending on oil, and bike to work.
You either have the endurance of Lance Armstrong, or you've never lived in the Bay area. It's pretty liberal (in the same way that Rush Limbaugh is pretty conservative), and some people make a commendable go of commuting by bike... but the topography of the place isn't really amenable to it.
I think that the trussed structures on the bridge are for compression. It would be... unusual for these eyebars to take much compression - they are thin and won't have much strength in compression.
May I ask why you think this crack is caused by compression?
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And the sprawl that already exists?
Those areas will urbanize over time, assuming that our population continues to increase. It's crazy to continue development without any urban planning.
What we're saying is that the size difference doesn't justify a 1K premium for slower hardware.
Don't you see how that is an opinion? Can't you see how people might value a 50% reduction in size?
The only way Dell would ever be close in price to Apple is if Dell started selling Apple products.
Dell and Apple use pretty much the same suppliers, and when they make similar machines they come in at similar prices. They don't always compete with one another directly, because Dell competes in both the low, mid, and high-end markets while Apple only offers stuff in the mid and high-end markets. Apple's range of offerings are also much smaller than Dell's.
Look, your only example of Apple's prices excess is a laptop that is much bigger. Can you show an example of another overpriced product? One that is perhaps a bit more similar in form factor?
It's absurd to argue that size does not matter when you are talking about notebooks.
Dell makes some very nice machines, as does Apple. Where they overlap, they tend to be very close in price.
1K extra for the weight?? I'M SOLD!!!!!!!
Look, you can make your own value judgment about what is more important - size or price. Just don't pretend that the Dell is the same laptop. There is quite a bit of cost in making a laptop smaller without reducing performance.
You want to save $500 and get the bigger laptop with the lower battery life and the larger volume? By all means, it is your choice. Hell, I've certainly made that choice in the past.
But I'll tell you this, whenever I traveled with a company laptop, I always chose the smallest one.
They aren't the same size. XPS is 50% the price and 50% heavier. Volume is significantly larger, too.
You aren't comparing similar laptops.
I did that when I was single. I rented an apartment building within walking distance of my job, and I had that apartment until I got married. Then my wife got a job about half an hour away, so we had to move.
After a year, we moved to New York City, and I telecommuted while she worked across the street. It was a good gig, but only feasible because the apartment was subsidized.
So we moved again after the subsidy ran out, and now we picked a place that evenly split our two jobs. We both have to drive about 20 minutes. She could probably bike, but the neighborhood is too bad for her - especially the odd hours she works. Me? Forget it. The roads barely were built wide enough for cars - biking would be suicidal. There's public transit that gets me within biking distance, but perversely they will not let me bring my bike during rush hour.
Actually, "Upgrade" appears on the package for both 10.5 and 10.6.
I'll take your word for it. But I also know that it (10.5) will install on a blank drive, so it must be marketing-speak.
You were not coerced into agreeing to a contract post sale
Again that word... I never claimed to be coerced.
you were provided ample opportunity to read that EULA pre-sale
So? They sold it to me without condition.
LOL, can you imagine being that entitled-feeling?
You are begging the question, too.
Even if I grant you that I am in breach of contract... what is my risk? There is none.
Doh ... why am I even asking your permission, all these property rights are just "so messed up."
Copyright laws are not "property rights". They are like patents - a limited monopoly on an idea. You've watched too much MPAA propaganda.
The software you bought was an upgrade.
Pardon? Where does OSX 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4, or 10.5 say upgrade? IIRC, it does not even say upgrade on 10.6. But you are leaping to conclusions. I neither have Snow Leopard, nor do I have a hackintosh.
Coercion? Seriously?
Re-read my comment. I was not claiming coercion. I was claiming that I did not agree to the EULA prior to sale. I'm objecting to post-sale contracts, not coercion.
Buy a nice case? You're a Mac user, so I know you have the coin :)
I have Macs, but when I built my wife's PC I used a nice Antec P150 which looks nice and is really quiet (it's in our bedroom).
Nitpicking? You were basically trying to make it sound like there might be some legal consequence to buying a netbook and putting OSX on it, which is ridiculous.
Unless you are trying to make money from selling OSX on netbooks, there is no "peril". Your sentence should read: "Break the agreement and suffer no legal repercussions whatsoever."
LOL. I'm being lectured by someone who doesn't know that microwaves are photons.
Begging the question, are we?
Seriously, where is my peril for building a Hackintosh. And if it is "illegal" to screw around with hardware and software that I've purchased without any kind of special contract, then seriously... fuck the law. That's just messed up.
If software vendors want me to follow special rules, then they can try to get me to sign a contract. The ethics are pretty clear when enter into a contract and you are not coerced to do so.
Care to point out the Dell that I can get for 1k that competes with the 2k Macbook? Every time I price them I get +/- 20%.
Or were you not taking size, weight, and battery life into account?
Break the agreement at your peril.
Okay, where has an INDIVIDUAL gotten into trouble for breaking an EULA? Seriously, what kind of peril could I possibly face when not a single soul has been hit up with an EULA lawsuit? The two "big" cases supporting the EULA that I know about are corporate in scale.
If you look at the pic the crack is in the bottom of the eye bar. meaning the center of the center of the eye bar tried to move in the direction of the crack (compresion force) but cracked the eye bar since it is the portion that has the highest stress concentration.
This is where I disagree with you. I think the crack is consistent with a stress fracture with the bar in tension. Google for "eyebar stress fracture" and you'll find all sorts of links to the Silver Bridge like this one, and it was clearly a failure under tensile loads.
I'm also an engineer, though of the mechanical variety. I took that EIT test years ago, but haven't worked under a PE for enough time so haven't gone that route. I did work for a corrosion laboratory as a co-op back in college, though. I never tested an eyebar, but did test metal to tensile failure quite often - usually to look for hydrogen embrittlement.
Yeah, that's the same thing that I read. The networking stack and all of those utilities like rcp, ftp, and rsh. I guess "a lot" means different things to different people.
For what it's worth, my sentence should have read like this to be more clear as to its intention:
"The TCP/IP stack has apparently been re-written - but a lot of the BSD code still persists in Windows."
The original NT kernel, thrown together in a matter of days (for demonstration purposes, not for official release) by Dave Cutler is still there in the middle of their Windows 7.
If that's true, it is really impressive. XP is quite stable... not bad for a hack! But I suspect that a lot has changed in NT since 1988.
The TCP/IP stack has apparently been re-written - but a lot of BSD still persists in Windows. I was just using that to refute the grandparent's argument that Bill Gates is being hypocritical by exploiting an open source system and then going on to create closed source. In fact, he exploited a mixed open/closed source system and has gone on to create a mixed open/closed source system.
Windows also has open-source components. The one that pops to mind is the BSD IP stack used up through XP.
Nomad.
Was enormous, as it used a full sized notebook drive.
Opera on a whole plethora of devices
Yup... that's what I use on my Sony Ericsson. But it is not as pleasant as the browser on the iPhone on similarly-sized devices.
corporate backup solutions.
A place where until recently, it was hard to find an Apple machine. What about the home user? Time Machine is amazing for a "typical" user.
nothing new here either.
How can you even say that? You seriously picked up an iPhone 3 years ago and didn't think it was different than everything else out there?
what you're saying
Noooo... but I think we know what you are saying.
Great, they built a big stone bridge... now pass a container ship under it.
What needs to be done is people need to stop depending on oil, and bike to work.
You either have the endurance of Lance Armstrong, or you've never lived in the Bay area. It's pretty liberal (in the same way that Rush Limbaugh is pretty conservative), and some people make a commendable go of commuting by bike... but the topography of the place isn't really amenable to it.
I think that the trussed structures on the bridge are for compression. It would be... unusual for these eyebars to take much compression - they are thin and won't have much strength in compression.
May I ask why you think this crack is caused by compression?