I know you said commercial was lower on your list, but you might want to look at the Dynamo suite from Art Technology Group (www.atg.com). they do offer a free evaluation download, so you could at least check out what they've got with no risk.
We built our site with their stuff, and it's quite good. they've got a page syntax that completely separates Java from HTML, so your graphics people can focus on the appearance of the site, and your programmers can focus on backend, and delivery of the data. They've also got "PersonalizationStation", which allows you to immediately create user profiles out of the box -- and dynamically target your site based on those profiles. (In other words, counting the number of logins that a person has to your site, and changing the front page from "Welcome to our site" to "Welcome back" is about a one-liner.)
Remote admin? No problem. The "component browser" uses bean introspection, allowing you to look at -- and change! -- any object in the system, dynamically.
I've been looking lately at the new JSP spec from Sun, and I'm not thrilled with the high integration of Java into the pages. Our html people are supposed to concentrate on their speciality, using html tools and such to make the pages look their best. With JSP all of our html people would also need to be java programmers (and contrary to popular opinion, the number of people who really are expert in both areas is very small. I know HTML, but I won't claim to be an expert UI designer).
For folks that are saying "Don't use Java because it's too slow" -- speed only ever increases. Ten years ago I wouldn't have said "Don't use a 286 because it's too slow." As products like Hotspot and TowerJ become popular, Java's speed increases drastically.
Disclaimer: I don't work for ATG, just for one of their customers. We're happy with their product.
I don't care what it says in the subject. It's taking up my ISP's resources to get it to me in the first place. It takes my download time to get it to my machine. No spam. Nonononono. If I want to be on your mailing list, I'll ask. Until they come up with a way that the advertiser pays the entire cost of the ad, I won't accept any plan to let it slide by.
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We built our site with their stuff, and it's quite good. they've got a page syntax that completely separates Java from HTML, so your graphics people can focus on the appearance of the site, and your programmers can focus on backend, and delivery of the data. They've also got "PersonalizationStation", which allows you to immediately create user profiles out of the box -- and dynamically target your site based on those profiles. (In other words, counting the number of logins that a person has to your site, and changing the front page from "Welcome to our site" to "Welcome back" is about a one-liner.)
Remote admin? No problem. The "component browser" uses bean introspection, allowing you to look at -- and change! -- any object in the system, dynamically.
I've been looking lately at the new JSP spec from Sun, and I'm not thrilled with the high integration of Java into the pages. Our html people are supposed to concentrate on their speciality, using html tools and such to make the pages look their best. With JSP all of our html people would also need to be java programmers (and contrary to popular opinion, the number of people who really are expert in both areas is very small. I know HTML, but I won't claim to be an expert UI designer).
For folks that are saying "Don't use Java because it's too slow" -- speed only ever increases. Ten years ago I wouldn't have said "Don't use a 286 because it's too slow." As products like Hotspot and TowerJ become popular, Java's speed increases drastically.
Disclaimer: I don't work for ATG, just for one of their customers. We're happy with their product.
I don't care what it says in the subject. It's taking up my ISP's resources to get it to me in the first place. It takes my download time to get it to my machine. No spam. Nonononono. If I want to be on your mailing list, I'll ask. Until they come up with a way that the advertiser pays the entire cost of the ad, I won't accept any plan to let it slide by.