How much longer must I wait before I see people care for their fellow human?
Well easyTree, I'm currently renting and I'd like to buy a house. I have 6 credit cards (all maxed out) giving me $13,000 in debt, a car payment (which I'm two months behind on) of $315/mo and I still have a year left on the loan, and 6 companies dinging my credit report for roughly $1,000 in unpaid bills over the last 10 years. Why don't you loan me $250k so I can buy a house?
What? What do you mean I'm a credit risk? Where's your compassion for a fellow human?
(When you achieve consciousness you'll realize there's a difference between compassion and stupidity.)
your claim that people can switch health care insurers if they're unhappy with their insurer's service
You can--there's no law preventing you from dropping an insurance company for any reason.
and that it's their responsibility to somehow be aware of and remember every tiny, finite detail of their insurer's policy.
Of course the opposite of what you say would be "It's not my fault I entered into a contract without knowing it--someone save me."
A contract is a contract. Act like an adult.
How exactly does a sick person who's denied healthcare coverage for critical "change providers" if they're dead or permanently injured?
How exactly is *you* getting sick *my* fault? How does does it work out that you got sick or injured--and suddenly someone else is responsibly for it? That's slavery.
Now if you contracted with an insurance company and they try and screw you--by all means, sue the crap out of them for breaking the contract. Just don't whine or expect someone to save you from your own stupidity if you signed a bad contract.
Furthermore, putting the moral responsibility of memorizing every detail of a provider's plan and comparing it with other plans
I'm sorry if it's "too hard" for you. Maybe you should go back to the shallow end of the pool with the other kids.
to the letter is not only foolish and irrational, completely ignoring human nature, but reeks of moronic elitism.
So thinking that you are an adult and should be expected to behave like one, and honor contracts is 'elitism'?
"Not to mention an insurance plan's rules often have nothing to do with an insurance company's reasoning for denying coverage. You're ultimately claiming there's nothing wrong with insurance companies as they are today.
I made no such claim.
"...an insurance plan's rules often have nothing to do with an insurance company's reason for denying coverage." Really? Their contract has no bearing on them denying coverage? Get a lawyer if they are breaking their contract.
It's like you've been living in a cave for the last 20 years.
You also seem to be completely unaware of insurance agencies' tendency to retroactively withdraw service for patients who are in need of expensive, but life-saving treatment.
Once again, you signed a contract. They can't simply rewrite it to their liking. You should have a copy of the contract. Go get a lawyer, show them the contract, and where the insurance company is screwing you. They will take it to court.
They find tiny, ridiculous "pre-existing conditions" to terminate the contract. These companies' management receive bonuses based on how much money the insurance company saves, which equates to how many people they can deny coverage to.
I feel like a broken record. Lawyer.
Or in my case, if I am screwed over and die, my spouse can get a lawyer. The executor of my estate can decide to get a lawyer. (And before you start thinking 'estate' and 'executor' == 'rich bastard', think again. It's part of the will I had done at legalzoom.com. Cost under $100, and I have nothing to leave my kids if I die except a life insurance policy...and yes, my lawyer reviewed it.
It's amazing to me how people like you can stick your head in the sand. living in a bubble of unreality and pretending everyone else are just sheep being put out to pasture.
Because if a link goes to a site that leans left or leans right, they are immediately wrong? I don't see you providing evidence that it's wrong, only bitching that you think the site leans in a direction you don't like. Feel free to provide proof they are wrong any time...
but aside from that I think it's rather well-known how often private insurers deny coverage.
Like...? Part of my job is maintaining computers for a group of ladies who deal with insurance companies. Their jobs are to call dental companies, find out benefits, and then make sure patients get those benefits so they don't have to pay out of pocket for their dental visit.
Yeah--insurance companies can be a *pain*. They make you jump through hoops, they deny claims, etc... But in the end, you sign a legal contract with them for service. They *must* pay for what they are legally obligated to pay for.
But there are lots of situations where people sign contracts without reading or understanding. It's not the fault of the insurance company if *you* didn't sign up for the coverage you wanted or needed. And to be blunt, some people are simply un-insurable. If I am 65 and have smoked a pack per day since I was 16, no one in their right mind would insure me for cancer treatment which can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Why would a *business* agree to cover a situation like that?
"There is no issue here. The Oregon Plan follows the same practice as the majority of private insurance plans in not paying for experimental or unproven therapies. There are two reasons for this practice: first, to keep down costs (these therapies are exceptionally expensive) and second, to protect themselves from law suits when a therapy is determined to be useless and harmful to the patient. If this woman was paying for her own medical insurance, it's very likely that the decision to pay for this treatment would be the same."
...but in a situation where the woman is paying for her own healthcare, she can decide to change providers. I am personally uninsured medically. I'm under 30, and live a somewhat healthy lifestyle. I'm saving a lot of money by doing that. But it's *my* choice and *my* risk to take.
I do have vehicle insurance though. I had someone hit me about 8 years ago, and they totaled my vehicle. My insurance company jumped through a bunch of hoops and tried to 'screw' me over. I fought them and won. Then I immediately switched insurance companies. Last winter, a lady was driving too fast, hit a patch of ice and hit the passenger side of my car. My new insurance company (State Farm) immediately had someone tow my car, and drive me to Enterprise. They gave me a 2007 Ford Mustang for $5/day until my vehicle was fixed. They ended up paying about $10,000 for everything.
Awesome service. I'm sticking with them. And you know what? If I stick with them for about 5 more years, they'll make their money back. That's what they are counting on.
You also say you already know all about the bill without television pundits giving you their biased analyses. Fair enough. But do you at least do research online, accessing websites that have historically demonstrated neutral and fact-focused attitudes? Politifact.com is a great one.
While I will look at anything from news sites to blogs for *opinions* and things I may have missed, I prefer my news to be unfiltered. Go read the actual text of the bill. I haven't read the entire thing (I don't think anyone has), but what I have read contains enough for me to say "the healthcare bill is completely unconstitutional and the government has no business even debating it".
In fact...that's a nice segway to this link that factually counters your horrible misinterpretation of pages 15 and 16:
Maybe you missed that link I posted about the lying doctor? That was done by Democrats...
then send them in buses to town hall meetings
Like the SEIU? Democrats once again.
to shout down the speakers while screaming irrationally
Like the SEIU or ACORN? Man--you keep talking about Democrats. Are you sure you're not confusing Democrats and Republicans?
Here's a quick quiz: "Which party is racist?"
I know--you'll say it's the Republicans.
Funny that--the 1968 campaign slogan of the democrat party was: "It's a white man's party, let white men rule."
In 1868, Fredrick Douglas (a black man) was nominated by the Republican party for Vice President. That's about 65 years before Democrats even seated black delegates in 1933...
First black man to the white house? Booker T. Washington. Invited by Republican president Teddy Roosevelt.
Feeling good about your party now?
They don't sponsor commercials and meetings that specifically lie about the health care bill and spread fear.
Obama lies about the healthcare bill all the time. "You won't lose your private health insurance." Yet the bill (page 15) says we can't have our existing plans.
Not to mention that the healthcare is completely unconstitutional in the first place. The government has zero business being involved in my healthcare.
They don't send e-mails out talking about "death panels" just to scare people.
Never received one of those messages. But what do you call it when government denies your cancer treatment and then says they will provide you with assisted suicide. (For bonus points, guess who saved her from the government? The 'evil' drug companies). I'm sure this incompetence will never happen on a federal level.
They don't send talking points to a "News" organization, something that is technically illegal.
Both sides do this. It's a stupid political game. Big surprise. I'm guessing since you put 'news' in quotes, you accept MSNBC, CNN, CBS, and ABC as news stations, but not "Fox News". Funny how you don't accept the one stations that bas both liberals *and* conservatives. Or maybe you were referring to Air America and it's 3 listeners.
Have you even SEEN the Republican party's speeches on government healthcare in Congressional meetings?
Nope--don't care to....and no TV. I know what's in the bill. That's all that matters. No matter what any particular party says, I know what's *factually* in the bill. I won't let either party blow sunshine up there...
At one point one Congressman was using giant poster boards with children's book pictures of a "knight" swinging a sword at a chicken egg. He called him sir Lancelot, then put up another board that labeled the knight Sir Taxalot.
Sounds mildly humorous compared to most of what I've seen on C-SPAN in the past.
It was so incoherent and stupid and did nothing to actually address the issues at hand.
I'm sorry if "giant poster boards with children's book pictures" confuses you.
All the political garbage aside, I don't want anyone taking what little hard-earned money I have and giving it to other people for healthcare. I work my ass off to try and provide for my family, and I don't expect anyone to give me money for any reason. I work for what I want. I work so I can give money to charities and churches that help people.
Hell, last year, I was nearly kicked out of my house because I couldn't afford rent--at the same time I gave over $100 to a guy who fell out of a
The endless fear-mongering by Republicans to attack the health-care reform bills is one example of this. Sponsoring groups to simply go to townhalls and cause havoc is another example of this.
Fear mongering like "The government has no right and no business being involved in healthcare? It's in the constitution."
Bringing in groups like the SEIU to beat-up and intimidate people at meetings and astro-turfing by bringing in fake doctors to try and bolster their failing arguments?
Sure, the geeks among us understand the difference between a GiB and a GB
Nope--Not any more...I'm totally fucking lost.
I remember when it went this way:
1 - bit
4 - nibble
8 - byte
byte * 1024 = kilobyte
kilobyte * 1024 = megabyte
megabyte * 1024 = gigabyte
etc...
Since these are all based off of bytes, they would be written KB, MB, GB, etc...
But networking gear usually measured everything in *bits*
So the table went like this:
1 - bit
bit * 1024 = kilobit
kilobit * 1024 = megabit
megabit * 1024 = gigabit
etc...
And since they were all based off of bits rather than bytes, they would be written Kb, Mb, Gb, etc...
But now, they are trying to confuse the problem by introducing KiB, MiB, GiB, etc... WTF is the 'i' for anyways? I don't care. And something about base ten? So now to figure out things I have to convert between base 10 (which has nothing to do with computers) and base 2?
I will continue basing my measurements on bits and bytes using base 2 and expect others to do the same.
And when we get a situation like the Mars rover fucking between metric and standard...well...I'm using the standard, and everyone else can fuck off....;)
The U.S. government is very, very corrupt. Someone plans to use emergency powers to make money, probably.
How the hell did that get rated troll?
If you're a Democrat moderator, think about Evil Bush and Evil Chaney and their ability to listen in on phone calls or start wars for Haliburton.
If you're a Republican moderator, think about Axelrod and having the White House give his advertising company money to make the healthcare commercials / propaganda--some of which ended up back in Axelrod's pockets.
If you're a Libertarian moderator, is it really wise to be moderating Slashdot while trying to sight in your scope?
Anyone cares to tell me what the words 'christian' and 'science' are doing together ? I mean, do they live in a universe with different rules with different science or what ? No, I'm not thinking about the evolution denier idiots, I assume this refers to run of the mill christians. So why the specification ?
Your average 'run of the mill' Christian believes that Science is a set of rules and theories about a universe created by God.
Science for it's part, hasn't found anything that flat-out irrefutably contradicts a universe that has been intelligently designed...and it has found no irrefutable evidence that it has. Personally I don't see a conflict between the words 'Christian' and scientist anymore than I would see one between 'gay' and 'scientist'.
What are they going to do? Cover up the 'gay' gene if it gets discovered?
If you're thinking Win95, then we aren't talking about the same "pre-NAT". By the time 95 was released (Aug 24 1995), NAT did exist. It was pretty simple and crude then, but it was "functional"... we had a next cube, my linux box (as the nat gateway), a windows 3.1.1 ("wfw") / NT 3.5(?) pc, and a win95 (msdn pre-release) working on a 10base-2 network. (june-july ish '95)
That sounds about right. NAT just wasn't very wide-spread around the time we got our MSDN copies of Windows 95.
I don't need me printer to have an Internet addressable IP.
I wish mine did. In order to print something out for the guys back at the office, I have to get bring my laptop in and print, or print to a.ps file, convert it to pdf, and e-mail it to the guys. No VPN access.
But maybe with IPSec and IPv6, it wouldn't be so bad--just hit 'print' from anywhere in the world and they'll get it.
... just like it used to be done prior to everyone using NAT...
In the days before NAT, (most) people didn't bother with filtering. The net was a very different place back then; we didn't need to police every packet moving around the world. (we also didn't have SPAM back then, btw.)
A network today without the veil of NAT will be a very nasty place indeed!
Weird. I vaguely remember that time. I recall having a Windows 95 box plugged right into our core switch and I had public IP. To this day I even remember the IP.
Pinging it returns nothing, but a whois for the 205.162.198/24 block returns my old employer/ISP and the craptacular 'United Telephone' allocation that used to arrive via T1. Strange that the whois record still says 'United Telephone' even through they were bought our or became 'Sprint' about 15 years ago....and then 'Sprint' through 'Embarq' sounded much cooler.
IPv6 isn't IPv4. You can use stateless autoconfiguration to find that router, no DHCP needed. The advertisement can also include information on DNS servers. If the DNS servers and default gateway aren't sufficient, you can still run DHCPv6 if you like.
Under v4, my DHCP server hands out an IP, points the machine at a DNS server, and finally (not sure if it's the DHCP server or the client) registers the name in DNS.
This allows me to ssh to my server via DNS name ('server.lan' for example).
Maybe I'm totally missing the point, but under v6 w/ autoconfig, there's no DHCP server. How do your workstations find DNS automatically? You won't be able to ssh or ping 'server.lan'.
Or is that not the point of autoconfig? Is autoconfig designed to simply get a group of machines v6 connected to the rest of the world with very minimal effort with the understanding that network admins will be using DHCPv6?
I never understood WHY people defend these companies.
Seriously, are they paying you to do this? Giving you free service?
Are they sneaking into your bedroom at night and performing pleasurable acts on you?
I don't get it.
The same counter-argument can be used. I don't understand why you are bashing these companies. They have invested very significant amounts of money so you can pay a few bucks per month to have connectivity to the whole damn world.
Seriously--I can get data from my machine in Washington state to one of my servers in Florida in 1/10th of a second. How awesome is that? And it only costs me ~ $60/mo to be able to do that. Now consider what it was 50 years ago. Did we even have fax then? How much would a courier cost? Postal mail? Remember when porn wasn't 'all you can watch' over the internet for ~$60/mo--but rather paying I-don't-know-how-much to purchase one VHS--then wait a week for it to show up?
You might not like paying $60/mo for internet. You might not like the terms in which a company provides that service to you. You might not want bandwidth caps. You might not like a lot of stuff about Comcast, Qwest, Charter, Cascade, AOL, etc...so do it your damn self.
No really. I challenge you to create a *profitable* company that resells internet access without those dumb restrictions. (Hey--I hate bandwidth caps too.)
If you can create an ISP that doesn't have those dumb restrictions that is cheaper, faster, and has almost no downtime, I'll be your first customer. Where do I send my $30 check (sometimes late) to be able to download a solid 25Mb/sec stream (24/7/365) of porn off TPB.
And I would also like to know what upstream provider you partner with that would give you such awesome pricing for those bandwidth requirements...
I HAVE actually worked around TV/cable/media companies, and the territory rights and agreements are a working fact in those industries. There, I broke your f*cking argument. Insulting my intelligence doesn't invalidate my statements.
I'm glad you work in the cable industry. This argument obviously means you know everything about cable and can't be wrong. I guess we're done here.
$23,000 to run a cable across the street? I bet $19,000 of that is pure profit. And even after paying that they'll likely still charge you their exhorbitant rates and cap you at 250GB.:P
Maybe so--but if you don't like it, feel free to start your own ISP and charge less.
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How much longer must I wait before I see people care for their fellow human?
Well easyTree, I'm currently renting and I'd like to buy a house. I have 6 credit cards (all maxed out) giving me $13,000 in debt, a car payment (which I'm two months behind on) of $315/mo and I still have a year left on the loan, and 6 companies dinging my credit report for roughly $1,000 in unpaid bills over the last 10 years. Why don't you loan me $250k so I can buy a house?
What? What do you mean I'm a credit risk? Where's your compassion for a fellow human?
(When you achieve consciousness you'll realize there's a difference between compassion and stupidity.)
I think you mean: "Could I interest you in ocean front property in Arizona ?"
Lex? Is that you Mr. Luther?
By definition you were not. Who but the desperate would enter into an agreement where they suspect the chances of a positive outcome are low?
I'm gonna go with "Morons who were too stupid to know what they were signing".
your claim that people can switch health care insurers if they're unhappy with their insurer's service
You can--there's no law preventing you from dropping an insurance company for any reason.
and that it's their responsibility to somehow be aware of and remember every tiny, finite detail of their insurer's policy.
Of course the opposite of what you say would be "It's not my fault I entered into a contract without knowing it--someone save me."
A contract is a contract. Act like an adult.
How exactly does a sick person who's denied healthcare coverage for critical "change providers" if they're dead or permanently injured?
How exactly is *you* getting sick *my* fault? How does does it work out that you got sick or injured--and suddenly someone else is responsibly for it? That's slavery.
Now if you contracted with an insurance company and they try and screw you--by all means, sue the crap out of them for breaking the contract. Just don't whine or expect someone to save you from your own stupidity if you signed a bad contract.
Furthermore, putting the moral responsibility of memorizing every detail of a provider's plan and comparing it with other plans
I'm sorry if it's "too hard" for you. Maybe you should go back to the shallow end of the pool with the other kids.
to the letter is not only foolish and irrational, completely ignoring human nature, but reeks of moronic elitism.
So thinking that you are an adult and should be expected to behave like one, and honor contracts is 'elitism'?
"Not to mention an insurance plan's rules often have nothing to do with an insurance company's reasoning for denying coverage. You're ultimately claiming there's nothing wrong with insurance companies as they are today.
I made no such claim.
"...an insurance plan's rules often have nothing to do with an insurance company's reason for denying coverage." Really? Their contract has no bearing on them denying coverage? Get a lawyer if they are breaking their contract.
It's like you've been living in a cave for the last 20 years.
You also seem to be completely unaware of insurance agencies' tendency to retroactively withdraw service for patients who are in need of expensive, but life-saving treatment.
Once again, you signed a contract. They can't simply rewrite it to their liking. You should have a copy of the contract. Go get a lawyer, show them the contract, and where the insurance company is screwing you. They will take it to court.
They find tiny, ridiculous "pre-existing conditions" to terminate the contract. These companies' management receive bonuses based on how much money the insurance company saves, which equates to how many people they can deny coverage to.
This link provides good insight into what's happening: http://www.articlesbase.com/law-articles/until-death-do-us-part-insurance-companies-delaying-claims-until-policyholder-dies-701852.html
I feel like a broken record. Lawyer.
Or in my case, if I am screwed over and die, my spouse can get a lawyer. The executor of my estate can decide to get a lawyer. (And before you start thinking 'estate' and 'executor' == 'rich bastard', think again. It's part of the will I had done at legalzoom.com. Cost under $100, and I have nothing to leave my kids if I die except a life insurance policy...and yes, my lawyer reviewed it.
It's amazing to me how people like you can stick your head in the sand. living in a bubble of unreality and pretending everyone else are just sheep being put out to pasture.
I don't think you're a sheep being put
Your link is obviously partisan,
Because if a link goes to a site that leans left or leans right, they are immediately wrong? I don't see you providing evidence that it's wrong, only bitching that you think the site leans in a direction you don't like. Feel free to provide proof they are wrong any time...
but aside from that I think it's rather well-known how often private insurers deny coverage.
Like...? Part of my job is maintaining computers for a group of ladies who deal with insurance companies. Their jobs are to call dental companies, find out benefits, and then make sure patients get those benefits so they don't have to pay out of pocket for their dental visit.
Yeah--insurance companies can be a *pain*. They make you jump through hoops, they deny claims, etc... But in the end, you sign a legal contract with them for service. They *must* pay for what they are legally obligated to pay for.
But there are lots of situations where people sign contracts without reading or understanding. It's not the fault of the insurance company if *you* didn't sign up for the coverage you wanted or needed. And to be blunt, some people are simply un-insurable. If I am 65 and have smoked a pack per day since I was 16, no one in their right mind would insure me for cancer treatment which can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Why would a *business* agree to cover a situation like that?
"There is no issue here. The Oregon Plan follows the same practice as the majority of private insurance plans in not paying for experimental or unproven therapies. There are two reasons for this practice: first, to keep down costs (these therapies are exceptionally expensive) and second, to protect themselves from law suits when a therapy is determined to be useless and harmful to the patient. If this woman was paying for her own medical insurance, it's very likely that the decision to pay for this treatment would be the same."
I do have vehicle insurance though. I had someone hit me about 8 years ago, and they totaled my vehicle. My insurance company jumped through a bunch of hoops and tried to 'screw' me over. I fought them and won. Then I immediately switched insurance companies. Last winter, a lady was driving too fast, hit a patch of ice and hit the passenger side of my car. My new insurance company (State Farm) immediately had someone tow my car, and drive me to Enterprise. They gave me a 2007 Ford Mustang for $5/day until my vehicle was fixed. They ended up paying about $10,000 for everything.
Awesome service. I'm sticking with them. And you know what? If I stick with them for about 5 more years, they'll make their money back. That's what they are counting on.
You also say you already know all about the bill without television pundits giving you their biased analyses. Fair enough. But do you at least do research online, accessing websites that have historically demonstrated neutral and fact-focused attitudes? Politifact.com is a great one.
While I will look at anything from news sites to blogs for *opinions* and things I may have missed, I prefer my news to be unfiltered. Go read the actual text of the bill. I haven't read the entire thing (I don't think anyone has), but what I have read contains enough for me to say "the healthcare bill is completely unconstitutional and the government has no business even debating it".
In fact...that's a nice segway to this link that factually counters your horrible misinterpretation of pages 15 and 16:
There is almost as much misinformation on this as there is global warming.
Very true. I would rather not pass the healthcare bill immediately, spend some time fixing it, and *then* pass it.
Democrats don't lie to people,
Maybe you missed that link I posted about the lying doctor? That was done by Democrats...
then send them in buses to town hall meetings
Like the SEIU? Democrats once again.
to shout down the speakers while screaming irrationally
Like the SEIU or ACORN? Man--you keep talking about Democrats. Are you sure you're not confusing Democrats and Republicans?
Here's a quick quiz: "Which party is racist?"
I know--you'll say it's the Republicans.
Funny that--the 1968 campaign slogan of the democrat party was: "It's a white man's party, let white men rule."
In 1868, Fredrick Douglas (a black man) was nominated by the Republican party for Vice President. That's about 65 years before Democrats even seated black delegates in 1933...
First black man to the white house? Booker T. Washington. Invited by Republican president Teddy Roosevelt.
Feeling good about your party now?
They don't sponsor commercials and meetings that specifically lie about the health care bill and spread fear.
Obama lies about the healthcare bill all the time. "You won't lose your private health insurance." Yet the bill (page 15) says we can't have our existing plans.
Not to mention that the healthcare is completely unconstitutional in the first place. The government has zero business being involved in my healthcare.
They don't send e-mails out talking about "death panels" just to scare people.
Never received one of those messages. But what do you call it when government denies your cancer treatment and then says they will provide you with assisted suicide. (For bonus points, guess who saved her from the government? The 'evil' drug companies). I'm sure this incompetence will never happen on a federal level.
They don't send talking points to a "News" organization, something that is technically illegal.
Both sides do this. It's a stupid political game. Big surprise. I'm guessing since you put 'news' in quotes, you accept MSNBC, CNN, CBS, and ABC as news stations, but not "Fox News". Funny how you don't accept the one stations that bas both liberals *and* conservatives. Or maybe you were referring to Air America and it's 3 listeners.
Have you even SEEN the Republican party's speeches on government healthcare in Congressional meetings?
Nope--don't care to. ...and no TV. I know what's in the bill. That's all that matters. No matter what any particular party says, I know what's *factually* in the bill. I won't let either party blow sunshine up there...
At one point one Congressman was using giant poster boards with children's book pictures of a "knight" swinging a sword at a chicken egg. He called him sir Lancelot, then put up another board that labeled the knight Sir Taxalot.
Sounds mildly humorous compared to most of what I've seen on C-SPAN in the past.
It was so incoherent and stupid and did nothing to actually address the issues at hand.
I'm sorry if "giant poster boards with children's book pictures" confuses you.
All the political garbage aside, I don't want anyone taking what little hard-earned money I have and giving it to other people for healthcare. I work my ass off to try and provide for my family, and I don't expect anyone to give me money for any reason. I work for what I want. I work so I can give money to charities and churches that help people.
Hell, last year, I was nearly kicked out of my house because I couldn't afford rent--at the same time I gave over $100 to a guy who fell out of a
The endless fear-mongering by Republicans to attack the health-care reform bills is one example of this. Sponsoring groups to simply go to townhalls and cause havoc is another example of this.
Fear mongering like "The government has no right and no business being involved in healthcare? It's in the constitution."
Bringing in groups like the SEIU to beat-up and intimidate people at meetings and astro-turfing by bringing in fake doctors to try and bolster their failing arguments?
Wait...that's the Democrat party...
Your network table is wrong. A kilobit is bit * 1000, etc.
Man--there's nothing like the revelation that you've been wrong for 10 years to ruin your day... ;)
the Mars rover fucking
Err...that should be *fuckup*
Sure, the geeks among us understand the difference between a GiB and a GB
Nope--Not any more...I'm totally fucking lost.
;)
I remember when it went this way:
1 - bit
4 - nibble
8 - byte
byte * 1024 = kilobyte
kilobyte * 1024 = megabyte
megabyte * 1024 = gigabyte
etc...
Since these are all based off of bytes, they would be written KB, MB, GB, etc...
But networking gear usually measured everything in *bits*
So the table went like this:
1 - bit
bit * 1024 = kilobit
kilobit * 1024 = megabit
megabit * 1024 = gigabit
etc...
And since they were all based off of bits rather than bytes, they would be written Kb, Mb, Gb, etc...
But now, they are trying to confuse the problem by introducing KiB, MiB, GiB, etc... WTF is the 'i' for anyways? I don't care. And something about base ten? So now to figure out things I have to convert between base 10 (which has nothing to do with computers) and base 2?
I will continue basing my measurements on bits and bytes using base 2 and expect others to do the same.
And when we get a situation like the Mars rover fucking between metric and standard...well...I'm using the standard, and everyone else can fuck off....
The U.S. government is very, very corrupt. Someone plans to use emergency powers to make money, probably.
How the hell did that get rated troll?
If you're a Democrat moderator, think about Evil Bush and Evil Chaney and their ability to listen in on phone calls or start wars for Haliburton.
If you're a Republican moderator, think about Axelrod and having the White House give his advertising company money to make the healthcare commercials / propaganda--some of which ended up back in Axelrod's pockets.
If you're a Libertarian moderator, is it really wise to be moderating Slashdot while trying to sight in your scope?
DNA evidence and the similarities between species...
Don't tell me you've never cut-n-pasted source code.
LMAO! My Kingdom for mod points...
Anyone cares to tell me what the words 'christian' and 'science' are doing together ? I mean, do they live in a universe with different rules with different science or what ? No, I'm not thinking about the evolution denier idiots, I assume this refers to run of the mill christians. So why the specification ?
Your average 'run of the mill' Christian believes that Science is a set of rules and theories about a universe created by God.
Science for it's part, hasn't found anything that flat-out irrefutably contradicts a universe that has been intelligently designed...and it has found no irrefutable evidence that it has. Personally I don't see a conflict between the words 'Christian' and scientist anymore than I would see one between 'gay' and 'scientist'.
What are they going to do? Cover up the 'gay' gene if it gets discovered?
If you're thinking Win95, then we aren't talking about the same "pre-NAT". By the time 95 was released (Aug 24 1995), NAT did exist. It was pretty simple and crude then, but it was "functional"... we had a next cube, my linux box (as the nat gateway), a windows 3.1.1 ("wfw") / NT 3.5(?) pc, and a win95 (msdn pre-release) working on a 10base-2 network. (june-july ish '95)
That sounds about right. NAT just wasn't very wide-spread around the time we got our MSDN copies of Windows 95.
if updates are even available without having to pay for them. Cisco, I'm looking at you. Switches take a long time to die too.
Free updates, and switches that don't take too long to die. Netgear. Maybe you've heard of us?
Now that we've removed two of your IPv6 hurdles, are you ready to switch? No? Good. We aren't ready either.
I don't need me printer to have an Internet addressable IP.
I wish mine did. In order to print something out for the guys back at the office, I have to get bring my laptop in and print, or print to a .ps file, convert it to pdf, and e-mail it to the guys. No VPN access.
But maybe with IPSec and IPv6, it wouldn't be so bad--just hit 'print' from anywhere in the world and they'll get it.
Until then, why go through all the effort when you don't have to?
There's nothing like last minute panic, eh?
In the days before NAT, (most) people didn't bother with filtering. The net was a very different place back then; we didn't need to police every packet moving around the world. (we also didn't have SPAM back then, btw.)
A network today without the veil of NAT will be a very nasty place indeed!
Weird. I vaguely remember that time. I recall having a Windows 95 box plugged right into our core switch and I had public IP. To this day I even remember the IP. Pinging it returns nothing, but a whois for the 205.162.198/24 block returns my old employer/ISP and the craptacular 'United Telephone' allocation that used to arrive via T1. Strange that the whois record still says 'United Telephone' even through they were bought our or became 'Sprint' about 15 years ago....and then 'Sprint' through 'Embarq' sounded much cooler.
IPv6 isn't IPv4. You can use stateless autoconfiguration to find that router, no DHCP needed. The advertisement can also include information on DNS servers. If the DNS servers and default gateway aren't sufficient, you can still run DHCPv6 if you like.
Under v4, my DHCP server hands out an IP, points the machine at a DNS server, and finally (not sure if it's the DHCP server or the client) registers the name in DNS.
This allows me to ssh to my server via DNS name ('server.lan' for example).
Maybe I'm totally missing the point, but under v6 w/ autoconfig, there's no DHCP server. How do your workstations find DNS automatically? You won't be able to ssh or ping 'server.lan'.
Or is that not the point of autoconfig? Is autoconfig designed to simply get a group of machines v6 connected to the rest of the world with very minimal effort with the understanding that network admins will be using DHCPv6?
I never understood WHY people defend these companies.
Seriously, are they paying you to do this? Giving you free service?
Are they sneaking into your bedroom at night and performing pleasurable acts on you?
I don't get it.
The same counter-argument can be used. I don't understand why you are bashing these companies. They have invested very significant amounts of money so you can pay a few bucks per month to have connectivity to the whole damn world.
Seriously--I can get data from my machine in Washington state to one of my servers in Florida in 1/10th of a second. How awesome is that? And it only costs me ~ $60/mo to be able to do that. Now consider what it was 50 years ago. Did we even have fax then? How much would a courier cost? Postal mail? Remember when porn wasn't 'all you can watch' over the internet for ~$60/mo--but rather paying I-don't-know-how-much to purchase one VHS--then wait a week for it to show up?
You might not like paying $60/mo for internet. You might not like the terms in which a company provides that service to you. You might not want bandwidth caps. You might not like a lot of stuff about Comcast, Qwest, Charter, Cascade, AOL, etc...so do it your damn self.
No really. I challenge you to create a *profitable* company that resells internet access without those dumb restrictions. (Hey--I hate bandwidth caps too.)
If you can create an ISP that doesn't have those dumb restrictions that is cheaper, faster, and has almost no downtime, I'll be your first customer. Where do I send my $30 check (sometimes late) to be able to download a solid 25Mb/sec stream (24/7/365) of porn off TPB.
And I would also like to know what upstream provider you partner with that would give you such awesome pricing for those bandwidth requirements...
I HAVE actually worked around TV/cable/media companies, and the territory rights and agreements are a working fact in those industries. There, I broke your f*cking argument. Insulting my intelligence doesn't invalidate my statements.
I'm glad you work in the cable industry. This argument obviously means you know everything about cable and can't be wrong. I guess we're done here.
Is there something inherently wrong with a desert canyon?
I've heard the canyon was spectacularly beautiful before it was flooded.
Hayduke lives!
I hear the glaciers were beautiful before they melted.
No, you are caught in a temporal loop.
You are caught in a temporal loop. To un-catch yourself stand to the left when exiting to avoid getting hit by the Bozeman.
$23,000 to run a cable across the street? I bet $19,000 of that is pure profit. And even after paying that they'll likely still charge you their exhorbitant rates and cap you at 250GB. :P
Maybe so--but if you don't like it, feel free to start your own ISP and charge less.