I appreciate what you're saying but I don't think for most people an open bootloader is even remotely comparable to child labour. I know I'm stretching your point, but anyway...
No, but I apparently have to remind people that they are a huge minority and their opinion is more or less irrelevant to what the real world thinks; and the real world does not give a flying fuck, nor does it know about, "unlocked bootloaders". It's a sacrilege in/., I know, but hey, maybe some of us should state the obvious. I will never buy a phone without an unlocked bootloader. You will not and perhaps many in/. will not. This does not a trend make, and at the end of the day the iphone is the best-selling phone and not one soul cares about it having a locked bootloader. At any rate, apologies if my tone was offensive to you at any point.
You're confusing bootloader locked with SIM locked. Those things have fuck-all to do with one another. Installing a custom ROM does not, ever, unlock your SIM-lock.
You are actually the one confused there. Civ V is a steamworks game (and if it isn't, just find one that is). It works as follows: you buy the disk, you install it, it asks for the serial when it installs and when you put it in, it links the game to your steam account. You cannot, after it has been linked, sell the game. You can sell the disk, but you cannot install it without the serial.
So you think that people want to upgrade their 2 year old phone because... what? The software isn't upgraded? You don't think that maybe it's because they can get a new phone, for free, that is five times as powerful, has a hugely better screen, a damn better camera, lasts longer and is better looking? You think if you gave people free upgrades on an unlocked phone, they'd keep the phone forever? You think those of us who have a Nexus don't upgrade because we have a good developer community?
Seriously. Are you arguing for the sake of arguing? AGAIN. You, I and a minority of users care about "unlocked bootloader". The vast majority do not, and never will.
You know what? Just because you, I and a hundred other nerds do care does not mean that the millions who buy fucking phones from their operator do, and no matter of sanctimonious whining on slashdot by you will change that.
Are you at all aware you can buy FULL PS3 games on the Playstation store for a while now? No? Oh well, it doesn't matter, have a misguided opinion anyway, this is slashdot anyway.
"People who deal with Sony"? God damn, I didn't know that buying the best-selling current-generation console (In EU anyway) were making a political statement?
Give it a rest, I know it's/. and circlejerking is pretty much what people are supposed to do, but seriously... live in the real world for a second there.
Man, people want to buy a god damn phone, and they'll buy one they like. They don't care or want to care about "open bootloaders" because for the vast majority of people it gives them ZERO advantage. They don't want to load up the latest CM10.1_KANG_super_duper_deodexed_perfect_nobuggs_OC1500 ROM, they want their phones to look pretty, ring when they're supposed to and that's it. You think you can "educate" people, best of luck to you, but you just want to interest people to something they do not want to care about, full stop.
For what it's worth, I too own and love my GNexus. It's not a phone for everyone.
You obviously don't own a PS3.
There's a HUGE library of games that cost $20 (Platinum). Playstation Plus let's you have about 20 A-list games for about $35 discounted per year. Every year they have at least two times when everything is deeply discounted (again a-list games costing about $10 to $20 for a digital download). And that's not even taking into account the HUGE discounts you can find in places like amazon when buying games online 3-4 months after the game comes out.
Also, GNU/Linux? What the hell, are we back to 1995? Give it a god damn break.
It doesn't matter if "physical media" has more features. It's still a digital product if you activate it on steam, and you cannot resell it, return it, or anything like that.
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If I had to guess, working in IT, you probably only support devices for 1-2 years max
I actually laughed out loud at that.
So you were doing "web development" on what? Lynx?... Mosaic?... Gopher perchance?
I think you're either replying to the wrong person, or you have severe reading comprehension issues.
Well I'm not paranoid. I give my trust to those who deserve it and Canonical definitely do not.
I trust them more than Canonical, that's for sure.
Yeah fair enough. I'm actually replying to a lot of comments at the same time and I seem to have lost my train of thought on this one.
I appreciate what you're saying but I don't think for most people an open bootloader is even remotely comparable to child labour. I know I'm stretching your point, but anyway...
You and I are geeks, we like flashing our phones. The vast majority do not care, nor will they ever care. I cannot make it any clearer than that.
No, but I apparently have to remind people that they are a huge minority and their opinion is more or less irrelevant to what the real world thinks; and the real world does not give a flying fuck, nor does it know about, "unlocked bootloaders". It's a sacrilege in /., I know, but hey, maybe some of us should state the obvious. I will never buy a phone without an unlocked bootloader. You will not and perhaps many in /. will not. This does not a trend make, and at the end of the day the iphone is the best-selling phone and not one soul cares about it having a locked bootloader. At any rate, apologies if my tone was offensive to you at any point.
Can you read? How explicit does an argument have to be before you find merit in it?
You're confusing bootloader locked with SIM locked. Those things have fuck-all to do with one another. Installing a custom ROM does not, ever, unlock your SIM-lock.
You are actually the one confused there. Civ V is a steamworks game (and if it isn't, just find one that is). It works as follows: you buy the disk, you install it, it asks for the serial when it installs and when you put it in, it links the game to your steam account. You cannot, after it has been linked, sell the game. You can sell the disk, but you cannot install it without the serial.
So you think that people want to upgrade their 2 year old phone because... what? The software isn't upgraded? You don't think that maybe it's because they can get a new phone, for free, that is five times as powerful, has a hugely better screen, a damn better camera, lasts longer and is better looking? You think if you gave people free upgrades on an unlocked phone, they'd keep the phone forever? You think those of us who have a Nexus don't upgrade because we have a good developer community?
Where in Steam's Linux page do you see "GNU/Linux"? *Thankfully* they speak about Linux.
I give up. You have obvious reading comprehension problems and / or are bored and just want to preach to the slashdot circlejerkathon.
Seriously. Are you arguing for the sake of arguing? AGAIN. You, I and a minority of users care about "unlocked bootloader". The vast majority do not, and never will.
You know what? Just because you, I and a hundred other nerds do care does not mean that the millions who buy fucking phones from their operator do, and no matter of sanctimonious whining on slashdot by you will change that.
Are you at all aware you can buy FULL PS3 games on the Playstation store for a while now? No? Oh well, it doesn't matter, have a misguided opinion anyway, this is slashdot anyway.
Spare me the "freedom" bullshit. It is irrelevant for most people, full stop.
Steam are getting away with it, and have been getting away with it since 2003.
"People who deal with Sony"? God damn, I didn't know that buying the best-selling current-generation console (In EU anyway) were making a political statement? Give it a rest, I know it's /. and circlejerking is pretty much what people are supposed to do, but seriously... live in the real world for a second there.
Man, people want to buy a god damn phone, and they'll buy one they like. They don't care or want to care about "open bootloaders" because for the vast majority of people it gives them ZERO advantage. They don't want to load up the latest CM10.1_KANG_super_duper_deodexed_perfect_nobuggs_OC1500 ROM, they want their phones to look pretty, ring when they're supposed to and that's it. You think you can "educate" people, best of luck to you, but you just want to interest people to something they do not want to care about, full stop. For what it's worth, I too own and love my GNexus. It's not a phone for everyone.
You obviously don't own a PS3. There's a HUGE library of games that cost $20 (Platinum). Playstation Plus let's you have about 20 A-list games for about $35 discounted per year. Every year they have at least two times when everything is deeply discounted (again a-list games costing about $10 to $20 for a digital download). And that's not even taking into account the HUGE discounts you can find in places like amazon when buying games online 3-4 months after the game comes out. Also, GNU/Linux? What the hell, are we back to 1995? Give it a god damn break.
It doesn't matter if "physical media" has more features. It's still a digital product if you activate it on steam, and you cannot resell it, return it, or anything like that.
You could have saved yourself a lot of time by just having typed "$ony are the evilzor" and get it done with.