Hrm, yes.. Semi-free, I mean what does RMS eventually want? if MS were to make all their source open and free, it would obviously crush the company as we know it today. I highly doubt it would bring a total end to MS, but as we've seen recently, the business world is very slow to accept anything that's "free" as there's always been stings attached, as as in the case with GNU, there _ARE_ legal obligations and such that should be adhreared to. So the point I'm trying to get acorss is if MS or apple were to go 100% open source, I think the world's technology driven economy would very rapidly collapse. Of course this is only my random ponderings, tho I would like to hear what RMS has to say about it, because just as MS or Apple would collapse, I think someone would move in to fill their place, but would it be fast enough. Also, in terms of business, there's a HUGE problem with having 500 distributions of Windows all of them slightly diffrent...as it is I can only barely get things to work across the diffrent linux distro's, what would happen if/when an already buggy OS were taen apart? Anyways, 'tis late and I am ranting again, applogies -Doug
RMS: I'm fairly new to the opensource world as a user, but I've supported the idea for a long time. However in my work and daily use I mostly use Windows. The question I have is: outside of the linux/unix world, does GNU and openSource truely exsist, and what do you think would happen to our nation of geekdom if some of the big players went opensource, such as BeOS, the rumored "new Amiga", and *gasp* even MS or Apple. The point I am trying to get at hre is would this cause such a huge surge as to totally overwhelm everyone, and cripple everything, or is this something that the people at the tops of these projects wouldREALLY like to see? hope my question makes since, I'm in a rush to get in here first:) -Doug
well then, off topic, this brings up the fun realm of extrapolation... but still, 2.5km and 36000km really dont make a huge diffrence at the speed wireless travels. I've used Satalite phones on islands, they lag, but it's not bad unless you're a stock broker, which is basiclly equivlent to gamers playing over directPC or a new bidirectional satalite based internet feed. So anyways...thats 2 more all of you owe me:P -GuS
Hi, just figured I would ass my 2 here. I currently sit on a 2.4 GHz wireless lan (breezecom pro.11-D to be exact) which handles almosy 3mb on the wan and has a T1 to the net... the distance from point to point is ~2.5km and on the WAN I notice latency ~12ms and to the internet ~200ms. I am not a huge fan of Quake, but it seems to run fine, other games such as EverCrack run just fine... websites fly, and well.. I have no complaints. So on the subject of satalite connections, I think that for most home users, (not power users, which I find most/.ers to be) the latency shouldnt be a problem. Email, web, FTP, and say, CC authorization, and maybe even a small webserver would run fine over these connections. To address the problems of picking up a large area of signals making some satalites lagged if they fly over dnesly populated areas.. I can think the most simple solution to this is fly multiple satalites over an area and make them addressable, the internal bandwidth of these things could be 100's of gigabits, and they choose based on it's address which packets to then route to their land based internet feeds...see where I'm going? competeing cell phone companies do this kind of stuff. Of course the other option is to have satalites opperating at diffrent frequencies over the same area, that woudl work too. Anyways hope that adds to this:) -Doug
Ok, yes, so it's a thank;less job, we both know that...would you still do it? I would....it's not about the thanks in a world dominated by geeks thinking they're bad asses wiht a sword, no, it's about power, and of course, it comes at the price of being used for said power more often than you can use it to your own advantage,,but it's so worth it, to some at least... I think Verents biggest problem is they went from being a 3000 player game to a like 100,000+ player game virtually overnight, and they just were not prepared or managed enough to handle it, and they still havent caught up.... what amazes me is now with the RoK exspansion they're gonna have another huge boom of new players....personally I play on CT and I've seen it locked with 2400 players on it.. it's really insane... I think verent could do it, but they're in a race against themselves so they'll never win or lose, but it's so intresting we keep watching... whee...hows that for a rant:)
Actually, you're the Dumbass, the []'s imply that you are editing a direct quote for clartity... if someone said "and then she said yes" and your readers have no idea who "she" is you'd replace she with [name]. Also []'s are used when you quote has a capital letter in it (as in you're quoteing an entre sentance, or the begining) and the qute is embedded in a sentance, you use the []'s to make the upper case M a lower case. This is all being taken from the MLA writters ref. by diane hacker 2nd ed. look it up before you accuse the writting staff of being incompetent:) -Doug
On the topic of the "related side note" the GM's are not only doing their job, but thy're being very rude about it. I have posted complaints on the everquest message boards at http://boards.stat ion.sony.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro to complain about the rude GMs and other game related problems. It's been pointed out many times "if you dont like it dont play" but please, the game is awesome, my complaints are about the overwhelmed su[pport staff that gets down right rude when they feel the least bit overstressed. The Everquest GM application is all about how well you can run around Norrath (the fictional world EverQuest is played in) and has absolutely no corelation to the GM's ability to deal wiht people outside the general role playing that is so scarce in the game anyways. Now it looks like Lucas is hiring this same..not incompetent..but already overwhelmed staff, to design and manage his starwars game of the same massively multiplayer style. To just finish this up and make my final point coherent... Please, everyone who is willing, read the everquest message boards, look at the number of negative complaints in contrast to the positive feedback, and please, I hope that if enough people flood lucas/sony/verent with comments,m and not just complaintys, to the effect that the public at large feels cheated, maybe things will get better? thanks -Doug
I saw an ad in a car magazine that both Aiwa and JVC are doing cd/mp3 players, Aiwa is in dash and JVC is portable, or maybe the other way around. The claim is they support like 12 formats and in 128k mode a cd holds over 12 hours of music... time to kiss your jukebox good bye? I'm sure there's more info on their respective sites also. Ciao
I agree to an extent that ISPs should take action against users if reported, and backed by legitimate logs (which aren't hard to fake). However monitoring and policing their own lines 24/7 is not only considered unethical by many, but also consumes a HUGE amount of resources.. 2 more cents from my bored ass -GreySoul
Haveing been listening to this feed for hours on end lastnight (6/22/99) and part of this morning, I can assure you that the party running this scanner is based in canada, the nature of the program ShoutCast allows for multiple repeaters to be connected to the centray shoutcast server. As for legality, the listening to of private cell phone commincations _IS_ illegal in the US, but it is NOT strictly regulated here, and it's deffinatly not regulated in canada. For the legality issues of listening to it, it's immoral, maybe illegal, but some of these calls are hilarious (whisper guy, phillipino phonesex, the 977-xxxx lady...) anyways, since this is a broadcast from a remote server, and because we just take it on good faith that it's for real, as far as we techniclly know,m this could all be fake, I dont think there's anyway to stop this. anyways, thats all I have to say check out #dwc on EfNet or http://205.180.59.135:8000 -GreySoul
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Hrm, yes.. Semi-free, I mean what does RMS eventually want? if MS were to make all their source open and free, it would obviously crush the company as we know it today. I highly doubt it would bring a total end to MS, but as we've seen recently, the business world is very slow to accept anything that's "free" as there's always been stings attached, as as in the case with GNU, there _ARE_ legal obligations and such that should be adhreared to. So the point I'm trying to get acorss is if MS or apple were to go 100% open source, I think the world's technology driven economy would very rapidly collapse. Of course this is only my random ponderings, tho I would like to hear what RMS has to say about it, because just as MS or Apple would collapse, I think someone would move in to fill their place, but would it be fast enough. Also, in terms of business, there's a HUGE problem with having 500 distributions of Windows all of them slightly diffrent...as it is I can only barely get things to work across the diffrent linux distro's, what would happen if/when an already buggy OS were taen apart? Anyways, 'tis late and I am ranting again, applogies
-Doug
RMS: I'm fairly new to the opensource world as a user, but I've supported the idea for a long time. However in my work and daily use I mostly use Windows. The question I have is: outside of the linux/unix world, does GNU and openSource truely exsist, and what do you think would happen to our nation of geekdom if some of the big players went opensource, such as BeOS, the rumored "new Amiga", and *gasp* even MS or Apple. The point I am trying to get at hre is would this cause such a huge surge as to totally overwhelm everyone, and cripple everything, or is this something that the people at the tops of these projects wouldREALLY like to see? :)
hope my question makes since, I'm in a rush to get in here first
-Doug
well then, off topic, this brings up the fun realm of extrapolation... but still, 2.5km and 36000km really dont make a huge diffrence at the speed wireless travels. I've used Satalite phones on islands, they lag, but it's not bad unless you're a stock broker, which is basiclly equivlent to gamers playing over directPC or a new bidirectional satalite based internet feed. :P
So anyways...thats 2 more all of you owe me
-GuS
Hi, just figured I would ass my 2 here. /.ers to be) the latency shouldnt be a problem. Email, web, FTP, and say, CC authorization, and maybe even a small webserver would run fine over these connections. :)
I currently sit on a 2.4 GHz wireless lan (breezecom pro.11-D to be exact) which handles almosy 3mb on the wan and has a T1 to the net... the distance from point to point is ~2.5km and on the WAN I notice latency ~12ms and to the internet ~200ms. I am not a huge fan of Quake, but it seems to run fine, other games such as EverCrack run just fine... websites fly, and well.. I have no complaints. So on the subject of satalite connections, I think that for most home users, (not power users, which I find most
To address the problems of picking up a large area of signals making some satalites lagged if they fly over dnesly populated areas.. I can think the most simple solution to this is fly multiple satalites over an area and make them addressable, the internal bandwidth of these things could be 100's of gigabits, and they choose based on it's address which packets to then route to their land based internet feeds...see where I'm going? competeing cell phone companies do this kind of stuff.
Of course the other option is to have satalites opperating at diffrent frequencies over the same area, that woudl work too.
Anyways hope that adds to this
-Doug
Ok, yes, so it's a thank;less job, we both know that...would you still do it? I would....it's not about the thanks in a world dominated by geeks thinking they're bad asses wiht a sword, no, it's about power, and of course, it comes at the price of being used for said power more often than you can use it to your own advantage,,but it's so worth it, to some at least... :)
I think Verents biggest problem is they went from being a 3000 player game to a like 100,000+ player game virtually overnight, and they just were not prepared or managed enough to handle it, and they still havent caught up.... what amazes me is now with the RoK exspansion they're gonna have another huge boom of new players....personally I play on CT and I've seen it locked with 2400 players on it.. it's really insane...
I think verent could do it, but they're in a race against themselves so they'll never win or lose, but it's so intresting we keep watching...
whee...hows that for a rant
Actually, you're the Dumbass, the []'s imply that you are editing a direct quote for clartity... :)
if someone said "and then she said yes" and your readers have no idea who "she" is you'd replace she with [name]. Also []'s are used when you quote has a capital letter in it (as in you're quoteing an entre sentance, or the begining) and the qute is embedded in a sentance, you use the []'s to make the upper case M a lower case. This is all being taken from the MLA writters ref. by diane hacker 2nd ed. look it up before you accuse the writting staff of being incompetent
-Doug
On the topic of the "related side note" the GM's are not only doing their job, but thy're being very rude about it. I have posted complaints on the everquest message boards at http://boards.stat ion.sony.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro to complain about the rude GMs and other game related problems. It's been pointed out many times "if you dont like it dont play" but please, the game is awesome, my complaints are about the overwhelmed su[pport staff that gets down right rude when they feel the least bit overstressed. The Everquest GM application is all about how well you can run around Norrath (the fictional world EverQuest is played in) and has absolutely no corelation to the GM's ability to deal wiht people outside the general role playing that is so scarce in the game anyways. Now it looks like Lucas is hiring this same..not incompetent..but already overwhelmed staff, to design and manage his starwars game of the same massively multiplayer style. To just finish this up and make my final point coherent... Please, everyone who is willing, read the everquest message boards, look at the number of negative complaints in contrast to the positive feedback, and please, I hope that if enough people flood lucas/sony/verent with comments,m and not just complaintys, to the effect that the public at large feels cheated, maybe things will get better? thanks -Doug
I saw an ad in a car magazine that both Aiwa and JVC are doing cd/mp3 players, Aiwa is in dash and JVC is portable, or maybe the other way around.
The claim is they support like 12 formats and in 128k mode a cd holds over 12 hours of music... time to kiss your jukebox good bye?
I'm sure there's more info on their respective sites also.
Ciao
I have the fake DeCSS up on my site, www.greymatter.org...also there's ye old satanic hamsterdance.. have fun
I agree to an extent that ISPs should take action against users if reported, and backed by legitimate logs (which aren't hard to fake). However monitoring and policing their own lines 24/7 is not only considered unethical by many, but also consumes a HUGE amount of resources..
2 more cents from my bored ass
-GreySoul
Haveing been listening to this feed for hours on end lastnight (6/22/99) and part of this morning, I can assure you that the party running this scanner is based in canada, the nature of the program ShoutCast allows for multiple repeaters to be connected to the centray shoutcast server. As for legality, the listening to of private cell phone commincations _IS_ illegal in the US, but it is NOT strictly regulated here, and it's deffinatly not regulated in canada. For the legality issues of listening to it, it's immoral, maybe illegal, but some of these calls are hilarious (whisper guy, phillipino phonesex, the 977-xxxx lady...) anyways, since this is a broadcast from a remote server, and because we just take it on good faith that it's for real, as far as we techniclly know,m this could all be fake, I dont think there's anyway to stop this. anyways, thats all I have to say check out #dwc on EfNet or http://205.180.59.135:8000 -GreySoul