I absolutely wish I had mod points as well. We hired a guy one time that argued about design patterns with me every. single. day. He never produced a single fucking line of code we could ship. Took me three months to finally bother with firing him. But his professors all thought he was great!
Side note: when the fuck did it happen that someone could graduate college without being able to write a coherent english paragraph? I had at least 2 underlings that I had to ban from communicating with customers on account of their ineptitude with english. I hate that these people graduate, and hate more that I assumed someone with a college degree could write meaningful english. Lesson learned.
I understand your skepticism. I will tell you, it's misplaced. I'm a professional developer (actually own a software co. now, but I still code much of the day). I've worked long days in text editors of all sorts (notepad++, notepad, Visual Studio, JEdit, TextMate, etc.). I did not grow up with vim. It took me ~3 months to learn it to the point where I was as effective in it as I was in other editors that I grew up with.
You mentioned that you haven't used vim enough to know whether it's true or not. I have. I've used almost any editor you can think of. Multimodal text editors are win. There's no possible alternative to this statement.
Anyone that's a vim/emacs expert can edit text easily many orders of magnitude faster than someone that uses something other than a mode-based editors. I promise I'm right. That's all.
I would counter that, while it inevitably would have happened at some point, it's not a given that the resulting OS would have been GPLed, and subsequently things could've turned out very differently. Happy Birthday, Linus!
It can't be laziness, man. Posting on slashdot in these AJAXy days is downright unwieldy. Lazy is googling.
My favorite part is waiting 25 minutes for the previews to show up. I can't even think of a way to write a web app that took that long for such a simple action, traffic or no. Other than posting, I actually like the ajaxy comment system.
GNOME Shell is moving along quite nicely. How do you justify saying GNOME is basically a dead project? It's innovating (see gjs, and the javascript-based shell, as 2 great examples). The introspection bits are really powerful, and essentially can give any language nicely bound access to any GObject tech. I think you're misinformed on this point. There's rapid and meaningful innovation happening inside of GNOME.
I run a software company. In the past, we'd have called employees if we needed them at night, but VERY rarely did that happen. We have a new(-ish) customer that requires far more frequent support (i.e. I've worked every day for the last eight months). This quickly became too much to ask of our employees. They were getting calls from SOMEONE three and four nights a week, or close. *I* was getting calls 24/7, and I'm not joking even a little bit. Granted, overtime work - when they got calls - was time and a half, but it's stressful to be on call. I started to feel like a dick, and so we figured out a way to fix it.
Anyway, we now require our new customer to pay us a per diem for each day for support. We then pass that per diem on to the employees. We pay them twice the per diem on the weekends. They still get time and a half if they do work.
Before, I was on support more often than not, because the employees simply didn't want to be. Once we instituted the per diem, the employees began clamoring for the chance to be on support. My nightly workload has been reduced greatly (yay for mere 14 hour days!)
Anyway, moral of the story:
- Absolutely, any boss should agree that it's desirable to pay support personnel for on-call time. For any bosses that disagree: you're a dick, and you apparently aren't aware. Go ask someone "am I a dick?" Preferably not an employee. If one asked you to read this, PLEASE not that guy. - Alright, so we agree that support personnel should ideally be paid. That doesn't change the fact that *sometimes* struggling companies have a really, really, really hard time doing so without the company going under (the tough part about being the boss is COMPLETELY IGNORED BY EVERYONE, btw). Don't demonize companies is this position, but if your boss is reasonable and in this position, approach him about it. Ask him to read this post, or try to meaningfully convey the stress involved in being on call to him and that you feel it deserves compensation (it does). - The easiest way for your boss to pull this off, in my experience, is to pass it through entirely to the customer(s). This portion of the company's income should be ~profit neutral. Do not expect a similar margin to normal work, bosses: you get paid on the overtime, and your employees stay around because you treat them awesomely, right?
Now the last part, from the boss's side: - You will pay this per diem every day for support. You will fight tooth and nail to negotiate it for them. - Your employees will gladly take it. - One day, after you've paid an employee a SHIT TON of money, he'll get an early morning support call and act like a complete dick to you. This sucks. - When it happens, it hardens your heart a little bit towards fighting tooth and nail for the next thing.
You know that sucks, right? When you're a dick to your boss after he's foregone multiple paychecks historically to make payroll. Right? When he's still crawling his ass out of debt from building the company that pays you a per diem?
Child A hopefully touched a smaller capacitor before, and learned to discharge it with a fucking screwdriver. Or else I don't think Child A lived up to his hypothetical history.
I built a tesla coil in high school that would repeatedly give me 27" strikes to a grounded rod, playing with a 15kV neon sign transformer in my basement. If I'd obeyed safety warnings blindly (as opposed to learning what the dangers were, and mitigating the risk), I'd probably not own my own company today.
Yeah, a justifiable reason to act this way would be to limit the amount of information that the botnet authors gain access to regarding ongoing criminal investigations, etc. The idea being that if they know that you know they're somewhere in Russia, they can/will move so you can't catch them.
Even assuming you are correct (they always intended to release the code as GPL), it doesn't matter. They first released the executables that linked the GPLed code without having the GPL source available for those to whom they distributed executables. That is illegal, under the terms of the license that governed the GPLed code.
If the BSA catches you without licenses of MS products, and your response is "Yeah but I always intended to pay for those licenses," what do you think the result is? It's an identical situation.
Seriously? My sin is trying to bring the context from the OP into a thread? The article was about a car w/ airbags, crash testing, etc. This thread is discussing how electric cars are hard and like gocarts typically, no airbags, etc. I pointed out that while that may be the case, the one in question (we WERE discussing the OP?) is not like a gocart at all. How have I goofed up here?
Yeah, the article said they retrofitted a 2010 mercury milan hybrid...which has gone through crash tests, has airbags, etc. Which article did you read?
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I absolutely wish I had mod points as well. We hired a guy one time that argued about design patterns with me every. single. day. He never produced a single fucking line of code we could ship. Took me three months to finally bother with firing him. But his professors all thought he was great!
Side note: when the fuck did it happen that someone could graduate college without being able to write a coherent english paragraph? I had at least 2 underlings that I had to ban from communicating with customers on account of their ineptitude with english. I hate that these people graduate, and hate more that I assumed someone with a college degree could write meaningful english. Lesson learned.
Bravo, sir. [slow-clap /]
I haven't run into a comment on slashdot for years that made me snort :)
They also work wonderfully with the nokia n900 fwiw...
I understand your skepticism. I will tell you, it's misplaced. I'm a professional developer (actually own a software co. now, but I still code much of the day). I've worked long days in text editors of all sorts (notepad++, notepad, Visual Studio, JEdit, TextMate, etc.). I did not grow up with vim. It took me ~3 months to learn it to the point where I was as effective in it as I was in other editors that I grew up with.
You mentioned that you haven't used vim enough to know whether it's true or not. I have. I've used almost any editor you can think of. Multimodal text editors are win. There's no possible alternative to this statement.
Anyone that's a vim/emacs expert can edit text easily many orders of magnitude faster than someone that uses something other than a mode-based editors. I promise I'm right. That's all.
Comments like this make me essentially certain that you edit text slowly and inefficiently.
I would counter that, while it inevitably would have happened at some point, it's not a given that the resulting OS would have been GPLed, and subsequently things could've turned out very differently. Happy Birthday, Linus!
It can't be laziness, man. Posting on slashdot in these AJAXy days is downright unwieldy. Lazy is googling.
My favorite part is waiting 25 minutes for the previews to show up. I can't even think of a way to write a web app that took that long for such a simple action, traffic or no. Other than posting, I actually like the ajaxy comment system.
Right, or understand local maxima.
True. But, given that domain specific knowledge, there's another vital component: the fucking data.
Most people lack the talent and/or won't put in the time/dedication.
Right, those are the only two options. No one lacks the funds.
GNOME Shell is moving along quite nicely. How do you justify saying GNOME is basically a dead project? It's innovating (see gjs, and the javascript-based shell, as 2 great examples). The introspection bits are really powerful, and essentially can give any language nicely bound access to any GObject tech. I think you're misinformed on this point. There's rapid and meaningful innovation happening inside of GNOME.
I run a software company. In the past, we'd have called employees if we needed them at night, but VERY rarely did that happen. We have a new(-ish) customer that requires far more frequent support (i.e. I've worked every day for the last eight months). This quickly became too much to ask of our employees. They were getting calls from SOMEONE three and four nights a week, or close. *I* was getting calls 24/7, and I'm not joking even a little bit. Granted, overtime work - when they got calls - was time and a half, but it's stressful to be on call. I started to feel like a dick, and so we figured out a way to fix it.
Anyway, we now require our new customer to pay us a per diem for each day for support. We then pass that per diem on to the employees. We pay them twice the per diem on the weekends. They still get time and a half if they do work.
Before, I was on support more often than not, because the employees simply didn't want to be. Once we instituted the per diem, the employees began clamoring for the chance to be on support. My nightly workload has been reduced greatly (yay for mere 14 hour days!)
Anyway, moral of the story:
- Absolutely, any boss should agree that it's desirable to pay support personnel for on-call time. For any bosses that disagree: you're a dick, and you apparently aren't aware. Go ask someone "am I a dick?" Preferably not an employee. If one asked you to read this, PLEASE not that guy.
- Alright, so we agree that support personnel should ideally be paid. That doesn't change the fact that *sometimes* struggling companies have a really, really, really hard time doing so without the company going under (the tough part about being the boss is COMPLETELY IGNORED BY EVERYONE, btw). Don't demonize companies is this position, but if your boss is reasonable and in this position, approach him about it. Ask him to read this post, or try to meaningfully convey the stress involved in being on call to him and that you feel it deserves compensation (it does).
- The easiest way for your boss to pull this off, in my experience, is to pass it through entirely to the customer(s). This portion of the company's income should be ~profit neutral. Do not expect a similar margin to normal work, bosses: you get paid on the overtime, and your employees stay around because you treat them awesomely, right?
Now the last part, from the boss's side:
- You will pay this per diem every day for support. You will fight tooth and nail to negotiate it for them.
- Your employees will gladly take it.
- One day, after you've paid an employee a SHIT TON of money, he'll get an early morning support call and act like a complete dick to you. This sucks.
- When it happens, it hardens your heart a little bit towards fighting tooth and nail for the next thing.
You know that sucks, right? When you're a dick to your boss after he's foregone multiple paychecks historically to make payroll. Right? When he's still crawling his ass out of debt from building the company that pays you a per diem?
Rambling...but the truth must be told! :)
Child A hopefully touched a smaller capacitor before, and learned to discharge it with a fucking screwdriver. Or else I don't think Child A lived up to his hypothetical history.
I built a tesla coil in high school that would repeatedly give me 27" strikes to a grounded rod, playing with a 15kV neon sign transformer in my basement. If I'd obeyed safety warnings blindly (as opposed to learning what the dangers were, and mitigating the risk), I'd probably not own my own company today.
Yeah, a justifiable reason to act this way would be to limit the amount of information that the botnet authors gain access to regarding ongoing criminal investigations, etc. The idea being that if they know that you know they're somewhere in Russia, they can/will move so you can't catch them.
Ever read Cryptonomicon?
Lame
Even assuming you are correct (they always intended to release the code as GPL), it doesn't matter. They first released the executables that linked the GPLed code without having the GPL source available for those to whom they distributed executables. That is illegal, under the terms of the license that governed the GPLed code.
If the BSA catches you without licenses of MS products, and your response is "Yeah but I always intended to pay for those licenses," what do you think the result is? It's an identical situation.
Seriously? My sin is trying to bring the context from the OP into a thread? The article was about a car w/ airbags, crash testing, etc. This thread is discussing how electric cars are hard and like gocarts typically, no airbags, etc. I pointed out that while that may be the case, the one in question (we WERE discussing the OP?) is not like a gocart at all. How have I goofed up here?
Yeah, the article said they retrofitted a 2010 mercury milan hybrid...which has gone through crash tests, has airbags, etc. Which article did you read?
And you suggest they didn't?
[citation needed]
You've seriously never heard that phrase? Geezus.
I think it comes down to the ones with the bigger guns, no?
So yeah, an oasis in Egypt that's drying up is proof of local warming. Just a point.
bahahahaha. Sun? Money?
You've not been here long, eh? :)
Sir, my hat goes off to you.