its an 84 box linux cluster...i know..i've seen it:) if your indexing a few billon websites with a cluster the size of 8000, you really need a better cluster, and if you have a cluster of 8000 your most likely devoting so much overhead into maintaining the cluster synconisity, that its time to blow a few millon dollars and just get 5 ibm rs-6000's
...Moreover, Yahoo is trying to distinguish its search results by including information from its array of other services, many of them not offered by Google...
correct me if i am wrong...but isnt the *lack* of these nifty little *features* that are suppose to distinguish search results what made google so popular in the first place? Why is the concept of simplicity so hard for major sites to understand?
..For example, someone searching for "Yankee scores" will see the results of the most recent Yankees game in addition to a list of baseball sites...
yes that is cute isnt it? but i wasnt looking for a list of baseball sites, i was looking for the yankees scores, yet yahoo cluttered up my search results with *extras*. Screw it, i am going to go search this on google.....
Everyone is trying to compete with google by intergrating new features an innovations into their sites. Google does one thing. It searches. Thats what search engines are for, search on the critera i give you, and give me the results. Its very simple. Google has an 84 linux box cluster and they index about 4 billon sites with it. When i do a search, it looks at that, formats the results so they look nice..and gives them to me. Why does every single company that tries to compete put more into it?
I think we all know whats going to happen to this.
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Well that depends on wich distro of linux you are using, if your using redhat, it gets brutally slaughtered by freebsd, as do many of the other linux distros. However, there is a new linux distro out that really gives freebsd a run for its money. Gentoo linux is great.Its still realitivly new so there really arnt any gui tools like there are in red hat, so its not for beginners. But gentoo runs at about the speed of a freebsd 4.7 box. And about the same stability.
The really nice thing that comes with gentoo is an enhanced version of the ports collection. Literally, when i want to upgrade all the software on my machine to the latest version i type emerge rsync && emerge -u world, and then walk away. It literally does everything you want, and makes makes you a cup of coffie if you want:) not to mention that all the patches applied for you:)
so all in all, if your considering gentoo vs freebsd, flip a coin. Because gentooand freeBSD are breaking about even. I see both in a production enviornment and i still couldnt choose one over the other. But virtually all of the other linux distros get their asses kicked by freeBSD, so unless your looking at gentoo as your choice for linux, then freebsd is going to make the better desktop
Personally, i have been one of those people who kept screaming why is it so bloated. To the end were last week i got feed up when i found mozilla eating up almost 25% of my memory and went out to console and said umerge mozilla followed by emerge phoenix.
The fact here is mozilla IS bloated. But some people like this bloat, which is why the modularized appraoch is an entirely approprate course. It allows for the potential to include some parts of the mozilla suite and exclude others. And is generally a step in the right direction
Inevitably, having one hudge suite for mozzilla is not the best course. Its going to fit for some, but for others its just going to be a resource hog. Following the lessons that phoenix has put out, a much leaner, yet still functional interface can be devloped. This coupled with more modular design fixes some fundamental problems that mozilla has been encountering.
personally, i like being able to view a website, then move off and read my mail (in kmail not mozilla) and then play a few mp3s and not run top a little while later and find mozilla eating memory like its the last supper. Modular design coupled with the new phoenix direction will greatly improve the versitility, and the end user usability of mozilla.
Its sort of surprising the amount of outrage alot of people seem to have towards microsoft for its questionable tactics. I really dont know what people expect, microsoft is doing what millons of other busineses do, try to push a product that is dirt cheap and sell it at a horribly inflated price to encourage sick profit margins. So they hire a bunch of devlopers straight out of high school, create a user interface for idoits (desgined by idiots) and boom, they have the desktop market.
The problem with this, is after a while it really starts to bite them in the ass. Windows is quickly becoming more and more bloated, requireing steeper and steeper system requirements, wich has lead to a sort of infiltration of linux into the desktop scene. Microsoft simply cant have this, they are getting a royal ass kicking in the server market, and according to their preformance last quarter, they are losing money on everything except windows. And with this new linux infiltration (be it slow, but anyone who has used kde 3.1.1 can testify that linux systems are slowly catching up) they really Have to find some new source of stable income. Buying google isnt really a means to control the flow of information or some conspiricy, its simply microsoft makeing a desperate attempt to create a new source of income, because short of a redesign of the windows kernel (wich they sorta did with windows 2000, but that was more of a bsd rip off), the windows future is becmoing unsure, and currently, if they lose their grip on windows, the creation of the xbox, this new msn explorer bull shit, and now competing with google, it really is just microsoft trying to make sure there is a microsoft in 20 years.
Books that will rant on at lenght about the technical details about languages like java and c# are a dime a dozen.What is lacking is good books that solidly illustate the patterns behind object oriented design.
I think the reviews critisim about using such concepts as extending and implemeting in excess is not warrented, the book is about Objected oriented design, there are other ways to implement these methods, however, implementation of interfaces, and extending other classes, is really *the* object oriented way to solve this problem. Its hardly fair to say that its merly one way to solve the problem. There are many ways to implement the concept of extending another class or implementing an interface, however, these are technical details, and the primary focus of the book is patterns, and design principles, and wich ones work, and wich ones dont.
Also, the other speaks of the lacking of code samples, agian, this is not a codeing book, the focus here is design, and principles. Therefore, code takes a back seat. The problem with putting code in books, is that you get bogged down by implementation details, wich really goes outside of the scope of what the author is talking about, with short code samples, the point can be convayed. How to implement it in a more complex situation in a particular language is the job of the individual devloper. This book obviously isnt going to get into it, because its about design.
Mozilla is nice, but its still really heavy on the memory, it sometimes ends up even competing with X for memory usage...i can run phoenix and kmail (which looks absolutely spectacular under the new kde [3.1.1] ) and i'm achiving the same thing, about the same level of eye candy, yet I'm using a fraction of the memory. I'm a little dissapointed the bloatiness of mozilla has yet to be addressed:|
Cisco dosnt need to compete with linksys after they buy them out, why the hell would they want to? buy ethier product, cisco still gets the profits. One of two things will happen, ethier linksys will dissapear and the resources will be re allocated for cisco stuff (hardware production, marking, or something) or linksys will stay around (probably as is) and cisco will feed off of the profits. Since linksys's success was from cheap networking hardware, rising the price would defeat the purpose of keeping the linksys name for cisco.
Your both fucking nuts! governemnt should not be the soul controller or anything, nor should one single company, which is the entire point that got us started and there is a reason for this is the fact that if a small group control something, then there is a hudge danger, even an inevitablity that it will become tainted, the answer here is competition. Weather it be with government or another company, ethier way, when your competing agianst another company, or a government department, you cant afford to have scandels, which would eliminate many of the problems that are presented by one small group of people being in control. And the department of homeland security? please, these are the people that brought us color coded terroist warnings, gee theres as system to save lives. Do you really want the same administration that creates a new story about iraq every day because the simpile legistics of their last story dont add up controling something like this? please.
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its an 84 box linux cluster...i know..i've seen it :) if your indexing a few billon websites with a cluster the size of 8000, you really need a better cluster, and if you have a cluster of 8000 your most likely devoting so much overhead into maintaining the cluster synconisity, that its time to blow a few millon dollars and just get 5 ibm rs-6000's
...Moreover, Yahoo is trying to distinguish its search results by including information from its array of other services, many of them not offered by Google...
..For example, someone searching for "Yankee scores" will see the results of the most recent Yankees game in addition to a list of baseball sites...
correct me if i am wrong...but isnt the *lack* of these nifty little *features* that are suppose to distinguish search results what made google so popular in the first place? Why is the concept of simplicity so hard for major sites to understand?
yes that is cute isnt it? but i wasnt looking for a list of baseball sites, i was looking for the yankees scores, yet yahoo cluttered up my search results with *extras*. Screw it, i am going to go search this on google.....
Everyone is trying to compete with google by intergrating new features an innovations into their sites. Google does one thing. It searches. Thats what search engines are for, search on the critera i give you, and give me the results. Its very simple. Google has an 84 linux box cluster and they index about 4 billon sites with it. When i do a search, it looks at that, formats the results so they look nice..and gives them to me. Why does every single company that tries to compete put more into it?
I think we all know whats going to happen to this.
Well that depends on wich distro of linux you are using, if your using redhat, it gets brutally slaughtered by freebsd, as do many of the other linux distros. However, there is a new linux distro out that really gives freebsd a run for its money. Gentoo linux is great.Its still realitivly new so there really arnt any gui tools like there are in red hat, so its not for beginners. But gentoo runs at about the speed of a freebsd 4.7 box. And about the same stability.
:) not to mention that all the patches applied for you :)
The really nice thing that comes with gentoo is an enhanced version of the ports collection. Literally, when i want to upgrade all the software on my machine to the latest version i type emerge rsync && emerge -u world, and then walk away. It literally does everything you want, and makes makes you a cup of coffie if you want
so all in all, if your considering gentoo vs freebsd, flip a coin. Because gentooand freeBSD are breaking about even. I see both in a production enviornment and i still couldnt choose one over the other. But virtually all of the other linux distros get their asses kicked by freeBSD, so unless your looking at gentoo as your choice for linux, then freebsd is going to make the better desktop
Personally, i have been one of those people who kept screaming why is it so bloated. To the end were last week i got feed up when i found mozilla eating up almost 25% of my memory and went out to console and said umerge mozilla followed by emerge phoenix.
The fact here is mozilla IS bloated. But some people like this bloat, which is why the modularized appraoch is an entirely approprate course. It allows for the potential to include some parts of the mozilla suite and exclude others. And is generally a step in the right direction
Inevitably, having one hudge suite for mozzilla is not the best course. Its going to fit for some, but for others its just going to be a resource hog. Following the lessons that phoenix has put out, a much leaner, yet still functional interface can be devloped. This coupled with more modular design fixes some fundamental problems that mozilla has been encountering.
personally, i like being able to view a website, then move off and read my mail (in kmail not mozilla) and then play a few mp3s and not run top a little while later and find mozilla eating memory like its the last supper. Modular design coupled with the new phoenix direction will greatly improve the versitility, and the end user usability of mozilla.
Its sort of surprising the amount of outrage alot of people seem to have towards microsoft for its questionable tactics. I really dont know what people expect, microsoft is doing what millons of other busineses do, try to push a product that is dirt cheap and sell it at a horribly inflated price to encourage sick profit margins. So they hire a bunch of devlopers straight out of high school, create a user interface for idoits (desgined by idiots) and boom, they have the desktop market.
The problem with this, is after a while it really starts to bite them in the ass. Windows is quickly becoming more and more bloated, requireing steeper and steeper system requirements, wich has lead to a sort of infiltration of linux into the desktop scene. Microsoft simply cant have this, they are getting a royal ass kicking in the server market, and according to their preformance last quarter, they are losing money on everything except windows. And with this new linux infiltration (be it slow, but anyone who has used kde 3.1.1 can testify that linux systems are slowly catching up) they really Have to find some new source of stable income. Buying google isnt really a means to control the flow of information or some conspiricy, its simply microsoft makeing a desperate attempt to create a new source of income, because short of a redesign of the windows kernel (wich they sorta did with windows 2000, but that was more of a bsd rip off), the windows future is becmoing unsure, and currently, if they lose their grip on windows, the creation of the xbox, this new msn explorer bull shit, and now competing with google, it really is just microsoft trying to make sure there is a microsoft in 20 years.
Books that will rant on at lenght about the technical details about languages like java and c# are a dime a dozen.What is lacking is good books that solidly illustate the patterns behind object oriented design.
I think the reviews critisim about using such concepts as extending and implemeting in excess is not warrented, the book is about Objected oriented design, there are other ways to implement these methods, however, implementation of interfaces, and extending other classes, is really *the* object oriented way to solve this problem. Its hardly fair to say that its merly one way to solve the problem. There are many ways to implement the concept of extending another class or implementing an interface, however, these are technical details, and the primary focus of the book is patterns, and design principles, and wich ones work, and wich ones dont.
Also, the other speaks of the lacking of code samples, agian, this is not a codeing book, the focus here is design, and principles. Therefore, code takes a back seat. The problem with putting code in books, is that you get bogged down by implementation details, wich really goes outside of the scope of what the author is talking about, with short code samples, the point can be convayed. How to implement it in a more complex situation in a particular language is the job of the individual devloper. This book obviously isnt going to get into it, because its about design.
Mozilla is nice, but its still really heavy on the memory, it sometimes ends up even competing with X for memory usage...i can run phoenix and kmail (which looks absolutely spectacular under the new kde [3.1.1] ) and i'm achiving the same thing, about the same level of eye candy, yet I'm using a fraction of the memory. I'm a little dissapointed the bloatiness of mozilla has yet to be addressed :|
Cisco dosnt need to compete with linksys after they buy them out, why the hell would they want to? buy ethier product, cisco still gets the profits. One of two things will happen, ethier linksys will dissapear and the resources will be re allocated for cisco stuff (hardware production, marking, or something) or linksys will stay around (probably as is) and cisco will feed off of the profits. Since linksys's success was from cheap networking hardware, rising the price would defeat the purpose of keeping the linksys name for cisco.
Your both fucking nuts! governemnt should not be the soul controller or anything, nor should one single company, which is the entire point that got us started and there is a reason for this is the fact that if a small group control something, then there is a hudge danger, even an inevitablity that it will become tainted, the answer here is competition. Weather it be with government or another company, ethier way, when your competing agianst another company, or a government department, you cant afford to have scandels, which would eliminate many of the problems that are presented by one small group of people being in control. And the department of homeland security? please, these are the people that brought us color coded terroist warnings, gee theres as system to save lives. Do you really want the same administration that creates a new story about iraq every day because the simpile legistics of their last story dont add up controling something like this? please.